Shawnee County chooses Motorola P-25 system

[nec911]

OUTSIDE ANT

I was using the outside one I have had on my car for awhile.

I already figured that the rubber stock ant. was going to be an issue.

 

[kd0ega]

...antennae issue perhaps? OR the scanner still needs some fine tuning adjustments made ...I sure hope that this is not what we will be dealing with in Shawnee Co. with the hand held scanners. I can make a fixed location work for me reception wise, going mobile not so much.

 

[kd0ega]

....Since I could not go back and edit due to elapsed time......should have read

mounted antenna issue perhaps such as faulty ground, bad connector(s), damaged co-ax, etc, etc.

Trying to be helpful as well as figure out what I will be dealing with shortly,,,,,,

 

[KAA951]

In case you missed this article:

http://forums.radioreference.com/co...ation-alerting-part-county-radio-upgrade.html

 

[kd0ega]

YEA!!! back monitoring again

As of Thursday night(7-24-15), I have joined the ranks of those monitoring Shawnee Counties P-25 system.
I am monitoring with a BCD996T using the stock telescopic antenna...it is set up as a base unit at home...No issues at all receiving signals(I must be living right!)....Thanks Mark (KAA951) for selling me this awesome unit! I am making some fine tuning adjustments to suit my taste.
All I have programmed in the 996 is Shawnee Counties P-25 system while my PRO-92 scans the old analog system .....AMR, Topeka Fire Dept's. Page Out and Station Alerting Data (I think?) and Shawnee County Emergency Management.

I do have a couple of questions...
1) Is Topeka Police Dept's "car to car" channel encrypted? Been picking up a split second or two of unintelligible garble at times and it would appear,according to the display, that it is this channel.

2) I am familiar with KSICS,but not as it relates to scanner monitoring...is there any of the KSICS channels that anyone would recommend as far as monitoring within Shawnee County? I understand that the talk groups for Shawnee County are for future use...I am inquiring about the statewide Mutual Aid/Incident Command ,Statewide Interoperability ,Emergency Management Talk groups as examples.

 

[cinsu]

At least all of the NE 5 channels and KHP B Event 3

 

[joeuser]

Yeah I'd think you'd want KHP

 

[cinsu]

Speaking of, I'm no longer in SNCO but out of curiosity where did KHP and CAP go? They go fully to KSICS or did they get TG on the new SNCO system?

 

[Blind_Shadow]

A ..
1) Is Topeka Police Dept's "car to car" channel encrypted? Been picking up a split second or two of unintelligible garble at times and it would appear,according to the display, that it is this channel.

Yes TPD, car 2 car, is encrypted now

 

[kd0ega]

At least all of the NE 5 channels and KHP B Event 3

What could I expect to hear on KHP B event 3?

Yes TPD, car 2 car, is encrypted now

...Thanks!...deleted it from the scanner...are there any other ones from Topeka and/or Shawnee County that are encrypted that you know of or will be encrypted?

 

[joeuser]

IIRC, event channels are like a chat channel. Its also used to work with other public services in a given area, it'd be worth monitoring.

 

[Blind_Shadow]

are there any other ones from Topeka and/or Shawnee County that are encrypted that you know of or will be encrypted?

The ones that have come up so far seem to be for TPD:

channels 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,10 and 11 so far

or

tag info, car2car, tac1, tac2, tac3, training, detectives ( CI ), narc, violent crime unit


Still working on verifying/confirming others......

 

[kd0ega]

I JUST noticed something at the Shawnee County P-25 frequency database Topeka / Shawnee County (P25) Trunking System, Topeka, Kansas - Scanner Frequencies
...in the system talk groups where it says "Mode" there is either a letter "D" or "E" shown...
almost all Alpha Tag's show the letter "D" with the fallowing exceptions which show the letter "E":

Shawnee County Sheriff Narcotics
Shawnee County Sheriff Secure
Shawnee County Fire Secure
American Medical Response EMS St.Francis ER for Patient Reports .. (HIPPA? AMR is still
American Medical Response EMS Stormont-Vail for Patient Reports .. analog ,for now)
Topeka Police Information
Topeka Police Car to Car
Topeka Police Tac 1
Topeka Police Tac 2

Could the letter "E" in Mode mean encrypted? Not sure what what the letter "D" means either....Digital perhaps?

 

[Blind_Shadow]

< Could the letter "E" in Mode mean encrypted? Not sure what what the letter "D" means either....Digital perhaps? >

Yes,

A = Analog
D = Digital
M = Mixed Analog/Digital
E = Encrypted
X = Analog Encrypted

 

[kd0ega]

Thanks for the help....much appreciated!!

< Could the letter "E" in Mode mean encrypted? Not sure what what the letter "D" means either....Digital perhaps? >

Yes,

A = Analog
D = Digital
M = Mixed Analog/Digital
E = Encrypted
X = Analog Encrypted

Thanks t0pk01ne for info. I now have things figured out on the city and county side....got all of the encrypted channels weeded out of the system.

 

[KAA951]

The FCC finally approved the "temporary" license for Shawnee County's new paging system on 158.835. WQUP294 was approved on the 29th and allows them to operate until February 2015 while they apply for a permanent license.

This has been a mess- the old two-site paging system finally bit the dust a few months ago, so the hurried the new 7 site simulcast paging system onto the air as a stopgap. Then they learned it wasn't licensed, so the turned 5 of the towers off and just used new equipment on those old towers. Unfortunately, they were never designed to cover the county with those two sites so many agencies have been having problems getting calls out and setting off their legacy station alerting systems.

Hopefully, this has now been resolved! I know one of the fire chiefs had told the county that they needed to turn the system on and eat the FCC fine as it would be cheaper than the lawsuit that could be filed if someone called 911 and the fire department wasn't dispatched.

 

[joeuser]

Interesting post, thank you... To bad about in the wasted $$$ though!

 

[KSDeputy]

Sabo, Sheriff Chaffee hired me. I was a reserve for many years before that. I worked under Chaffee, Ritchie & Meneley.

 

[Blind_Shadow]

Sabo, Sheriff Chaffee hired me. I was a reserve for many years before that. I worked under Chaffee, Ritchie & Meneley.

Now that has a familiar tune to it

 

[hkrharry]

Sabo, Sheriff Chaffee hired me. I was a reserve for many years before that. I worked under Chaffee, Ritchie & Meneley.

Sounds like a new law firm! Chaffee, Ritchie & Meneley - Esq