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And of course the radio techs would have access to the whole system no matter where they are in WVA as well. We all know that radio techs could talk from one end of the state to the other end if they wanted to on any channel or TG's without any trouble at all. Plus it could be a high ranking state troop commander also passing thru as well.
I'd rather not bug the guy in the hopes he continues to give out information. I suspect the reason given would be the same we hear from other PDs....safety of the officers, etc etc
mike_s104
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Wonderful...
After 40 years, I need to find a new hobby.
After 40 years, I need to find a new hobby.
mike_s104
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I call BS.
mike_s104
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Just looking through the DB and noticed that Wood County Sheriff's Office seems to be going against what they weren't supposed to do too.
I'll stop complaining about this but it just seems that as more get away with it, the more will move that direction.
I'll stop complaining about this but it just seems that as more get away with it, the more will move that direction.
Bethanylt241
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Why doesn’t someone send an email to the proper authorities at SIRN Board and make them aware of this, if there not aware they may want to proceed with solving the problem. There pretty by the book so I’d guess there not fully aware of this, but with that being said Wetzel County 911 is full of day to day operations and that goes against the SIRN guidelines as well.
Im sure once someones complains then magically the policy will change.
So you think the operators of the system don't know what's happening with it?
Bethanylt241
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Maybe they are aware of it I don’t know, I was just trying to make a point that there probably not going to see your complaints on here, you’d have better luck actually reaching out to the source if you want something done. I was just trying to help, I don’t think it’s right either, I agree with the complaints.
Actually, the official policy for the statewide system in WV is that no dispatch talkgroups will be encrypted.
I understand that. However you must be naive to think that if the public starts complaining that they cant just oh say next month I make a motion to change that policy to allow encryption to happen and BAM!.
Once someone complains they will discuss it privately and I can almost guarantee there will be a policy revision. Cause how dare the public tell us what we can do.
The scenario you describe is probably what happens in most places--I have no doubt. And to make matters more complicated, I do believe that specific policy revision has been tried and defeated in the past.
I like to think that there must be at least a few remaining, principled members of the statewide executive committee who believe in transparency, and who may just be unaware of what's happening over in Berkeley Co. Now, maybe that's naive...
I like to think that there must be at least a few remaining, principled members of the statewide executive committee who believe in transparency, and who may just be unaware of what's happening over in Berkeley Co. Now, maybe that's naive...
Bethanylt241
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I would like to think it’s a actually a safety procedure for the Citizens of West Virginia to keep open dispatch channels open to the public, the public should continue to have that warning/alerting system that tells them something is happening and if evacuation is necessary or severe weather to take shelter. Also the State is pretty strict in there guidelines, I highly doubt they are going to change the rules for 1 or 2 agencies in all the state of WV.
Maybe I'm late on this, but just this evening I'm seeing P25-Phase II traffic on the Berkeley County site. Just a few hits in the past few hours.
BM82557
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That started a while back, must be the beginning of the switchover --
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In the past I've had 87xxx series radio ids on tg 9499 ( and 9486) but the current activity has been by radio id 369906 which is a new one for me. Same here. I have it as WVANG and it's not in the RRDB so it something I've heard and matched up the RIDs but never confirmed what or who it is.
mike_s104
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If someone can get a contract with a number to call, address to write it email to email, let me know.
I would first take the issue to the local county commission rather than the SIRN folks. I would quote the policy, point out the violation to them, and ask if they are prepared to buy a new, separate radio system. Maybe point out that the state lets them use the network as long as they abide by the rules. Then let them have a discussion with the sheriff. As mentioned before, there is a risk that raising the issue with SIRN officials will result in a change in policy to avoid a dispute with a couple of sheriffs.
That's my 2 cents.
That's my 2 cents.
mike_s104
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I honestly don't see that helping either. But I do think maybe if they're were a bunch of us that bring it up together, it might have a better impact then one or two people complaining on their own.
From the IT Directory for Berkeley County. I pointed him to the section of the SIRN policies and asked if they were following that policy. I got this back.
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Good morning Gary,
No sir, we aren’t breaking any policies. We do not encrypt the primary dispatch channel but after the primary dispatch we move that traffic to an encrypted channel.
I hope that makes sense, if you any questions or concerns just let me know.
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Good morning Gary,
No sir, we aren’t breaking any policies. We do not encrypt the primary dispatch channel but after the primary dispatch we move that traffic to an encrypted channel.
I hope that makes sense, if you any questions or concerns just let me know.
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