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[seagravebuff60]

I see. Do you know if 451.7875 is still used as a voice channel for Con+ Site 14 (Anderson), or has it fully transitioned to Tier 3? It sounds like it may still be in use. Despite the different locations, the T3 system must also have 451.7875 output at a higher power. If you can confirm that 451.7875 is no longer in use on the Con+ site 14, you can delete or ignore it from your files, and you should submit it to get it deleted from the DB. I don't know if DSD+ can focus on Tier 3 Vs. Con+ decoding, besides the DCC disambiguation.

What is your primary monitoring goal? To monitor the Con+ Site 14? Also, I'm unsure if DSD+ can completely ignore a system ID.

 

[venom6733]

I see. Do you know if 451.7875 is still used as a voice channel for Con+ Site 14 (Anderson), or has it fully transitioned to Tier 3? It sounds like it may still be in use. Despite the different locations, the T3 system must also have 451.7875 output at a higher power. If you can confirm that 451.7875 is no longer in use on the Con+ site 14, you can delete or ignore it from your files, and you should submit it to get it deleted from the DB. I don't know if DSD+ can focus on Tier 3 Vs. Con+ decoding, besides the DCC disambiguation.

What is your primary monitoring goal? To monitor the Con+ Site 14? Also, I'm unsure if DSD+ can completely ignore a system ID.

well I took out the 451.7875 and its still trying to use it (or another freq) because Im getting hits on channels 5-6 but I cant hear them talking like i can the 1-2 and 3-4

 

[venom6733]

well my goal was trying to figure out if i had done something wrong with dsd or if it was on their end and it looks like its not on my end. I had never seen it jump systems like that before

 

[seagravebuff60]

It is definitely the fault of DSD+ and not you. Ive seen it happen once or twice with a few systems here, and it is frustrating to figure it out. I'm glad I could help, but I'm sorry I don't have any more answers. I suggest reaching out to the DSD+ developer and seeing what he says. At this point, there's not much more to do.

well I took out the 451.7875 and its still trying to use it (or another freq) because Im getting hits on channels 5-6 but I cant hear them talking like i can the 1-2 and 3-4

That could be relatively problematic. Based on this screenshot, LCN3 (CH 5 and 6) of the Con+ system, site 14, is still in use. If it is 451.7875, then that means the T3 network is "overpowering" DSD+. EDIT: What happens if you tune to 451.5875 and change the role to VC Monitor only?

What is likely happening is when you are monitoring Con+ Site 14 and a voice call comes through, that voice call is happening on 451.5875. 451.5875 is still an active LCN on Con+, but it is also a Control Channel on the Tier 3 Network, therefore steering DSD+ to get confused if 451.5875 is Con+ or T3. It is frustrating, and I get that. When DSD+ gets confused or there is a lousy decode, DSD+ can spit out many weird errors.

 

[venom6733]

It is definitely the fault of DSD+ and not you. Ive seen it happen once or twice with a few systems here, and it is frustrating to figure it out. I'm glad I could help, but I'm sorry I don't have any more answers. I suggest reaching out to the DSD+ developer and seeing what he says. At this point, there's not much more to do.


That could be relatively problematic. Based on this screenshot, LCN3 (CH 5 and 6) of the Con+ system, site 14, is still in use. If it is 451.7875, then that means the T3 network is "overpowering" DSD+. EDIT: What happens if you tune to 451.5875 and change the role to VC Monitor only?

What is likely happening is when you are monitoring Con+ Site 14 and a voice call comes through, that voice call is happening on 451.5875. 451.5875 is still an active LCN on Con+, but it is also a Control Channel on the Tier 3 Network, therefore steering DSD+ to get confused if 451.5875 is Con+ or T3. It is frustrating, and I get that. When DSD+ gets confused or there is a lousy decode, DSD+ can spit out many weird errors.

I about bet if i were in Anderson and not using a base antenna like I am now, the 451.5875 would work fine but since Im closer to the L10-10 T3 site here in Muncie, its just overriding it would be my guess. Thanks for all the help and as usual, I ended learning more about DSD Plus than I did before . Now if I could get my rspdx to stay on 12.5 bandwidth, that would be great. I followed the instructions by putting-b12.5 in the fmpp-CC.bat but it never works. It works great on fmp24-CC.bat on my rtl-sdr's but even with the latest sdrplay.dll in the folder, it wont work

 

[mtindor]

The key would be (when the system is active with voice calls):

1. Fire up FMPP and DSDPlus. Make sure you are trunking (CTRL - combined cc/vc monitoring)
2. Go to INPUT --> Start Source Audio monitoring
3. Wait for the odd behavior to occur, wait another minute or so after that
4. Go to INPUT --> Stop Source Audio monitoring

It will save a DSDPlus-Raw-Audio-*.wav file in your DSDPlus directory. Zip that up and post somewhere so that the author can see it

mike

 

[mtindor]

I about bet if i were in Anderson and not using a base antenna like I am now, the 451.5875 would work fine but since Im closer to the L10-10 T3 site here in Muncie, its just overriding it would be my guess. Thanks for all the help and as usual, I ended learning more about DSD Plus than I did before

I'd bet you are correct.