Sticky Thread For Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2022

[jetcrafter]

EDIT - Sorry got some info wrong. Just played back recording to listen again for the details...

2335z
Just heard PACK 84 on 323.8 saying when they just finish work in AR631they will be heading to AR80. Sounds like they will be meeting DUECE 31 flight in the Northeast corner at 0120z then head SW.

EDIT - BOY! Did I get that wrong! Sorry for any confusion beyond my own!

 

[Hbright]

2030E: TIS-b of PAT (missed the #) 12th Avn UH-60 working at Mt Weather.

 

[Mark]

2253z
Yes, I just heard them check in with Moncton Center on 368.5

2259z
Now Moncton Center 270.8 "cleared into airspace".

270.800 is same freq as Navy Chesapeake "Bay Watch" control
Friday tomorrow so been a while since monthly new KC-46A delivery to McGuire from Boeing in Seattle.
They seem to like the Friday late afternoon deliveries.. see if any new PUDGY's show up.
Last delivery was PUDGY-06 #19-46064 on March 18 so look for a PUDGY-07 coming East.

 

[RaleighGuy]

POTUS travel on Friday

2:15 PM THE PRESIDENT departs Auburn, Washington en route Seattle, Washington
Auburn Municipal Airport

2:35 PM THE PRESIDENT departs Seattle, Washington en route Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Seattle-Tacoma International Airport

EDT

10:15 PM THE PRESIDENT arrives in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Philadelphia International Airport

10:40 PM THE PRESIDENT arrives in New Castle, Delaware

 

[jetcrafter]

Heads Up - BUFFs heading back!

0120z
PACK 84 declared MARSA with DUECE 31 flight on Moncton Center will meet up on AR-80 SW Heard PACK 84 on AR-80 Primary 373.6 working the BUFFs coordinating their meet up.

 

[Mark]

2244 local DUECE-31 on ZNY 282.300 push ZDC Millville High 323.300
Must be coming down rtb the coast this time
2304 local DUECE maybe trailer on ZNY 322.400.They are very quiet tonight.
2305 local DUECE on ZDC 227.125 req uniform freq which means turning WSW

 

[wbagley]

A couple of minor aviation news glitches that caught my eye.

09-0016 with the callsign SAM 46 is featured as 'Air Force Two' in this local news item about the AF1 visit to Portsmouth, New Hampshire a few days ago.

LOCAL NEWS
Air Force Two at Westover ARB in Chicopee while President Biden visits NH
by: Ashley Shook
Posted: Apr 20, 2022 / 11:42 AM EDT
Updated: Apr 20, 2022 / 11:42 AM EDT

CHICOPEE, Mass. (WWLP) – Air Force Two, a Boeing C-32 from Joint Base Andrews landed at Westover Air Reserve Base in Chicopee on Tuesday.
The Air Force Two is a backup plane for Air Force One, they are designated as the official planes for presidential travel. Air Force Two primarily carries the vice president, the first lady, and members of the Cabinet and Congress.
The Boeing C-32 is a modified military version of the 757-200 aircraft. According to Westover ARB, Air Force Two was stationed at the base for a short stay on Tuesday.

Air Force Two at Westover ARB in Chicopee while President Biden visits NH | WWLP

The Army Golden Knights' Twin Otter that terrorized the Capitol was identified as a single-engine plane in this NPR story:

The agency evacuated the Capitol around 6:30 p.m. ET Wednesday after an unidentified single-engine plane was spotted in a restricted airspace. The plane was part of a military flyover of nearby Nationals Park for a baseball game that evening. Other federal officials were aware of the planned flyover but not Capitol Police.

Police: 'Extremely unusual' oversight triggered Capitol evacuation for plane : NPR

 

[wbagley]

2244 local DUECE-31 on ZNY 282.300 push ZDC Millville High 323.300
Must be coming down rtb the coast this time
2304 local DUECE maybe trailer on ZNY 322.400.They are very quiet tonight.
2305 local DUECE on ZDC 227.125 req uniform freq which means turning WSW

DEUCE [sic] 31 on 290.55 at 11:43 pm looking for a uniform frequency somewhere near me in Kentucky. Nothing heard on 250.25 so far on this homeward pass back to Louisiana.

DEUCE 32 checks in on 319.15 at 11:50 pm, says they split into two callsigns about three hours ago. DEUCE 32 later on 317.75, then 134.675.

Will tomorrow's flight be DEUCE 41?

 

[Mark]

Odd flight from yesterday into McGuire around 11am local KC-135 BLUE-47 #64-14839 Illinois ANG code 1 with crew of 3.
Overnight a BLUE-41 KC-10 #83-0078 from Travis came Northeast thru St Johns at 0530z.

 

[RichardKramer]

Unfortunately - not quite accurate according to multiple sources - regardless of whatever party was in power - you do not go into the US Capitol building and do what the people did there. I would have made the same comment had the Republicans won the White House again and the Democrats stormed the Capitol or the White House. Our country is better than that behavior.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump distorts record on National Guard in DC

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is distorting how he responded to the chaos at the Capitol this week, falsely stating that he acted immediately to bring in the National Guard.

apnews.com

Timeline of National Guard Deployment to Capitol - FactCheck.org

On the day of the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, the first National Guard members arrived to assist at about 5:40 p.m. Here, we present a timeline about the efforts to deploy those troops.

www.factcheck.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/15/no-trump-did-not-order-10000-troops-secure-capitol-jan-6/

Fact Check: Did Trump Call in National Guard After Rioters Stormed Capitol?

After President Trump claimed he directed the National Guard for immediate deployment after the Capitol Building raid, several reports point to Vice President Pence as the lead White House orchestrater.

www.newsweek.com

Reports: Trump Resisted Sending National Guard To Quell Violent Mob At U.S. Capitol

Vice President Pence ultimately made the call to deploy the D.C. National Guard.

www.forbes.com

and Reuters reports Trump wanted the troops to protect the rioters - not the Capitol

Trump wanted troops to protect his supporters at Jan. 6 rally

President Donald Trump wanted National Guard troops in Washington to protect his supporters at a Jan. 6 rally that ended with them attacking the U.S. Capitol, leaving five dead, Trump's former Pentagon chief testified on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

I totally agree with you with the Capitol being off limits no matter which party was in charge; but the fact is that Pelosi WAS in charge and failed to have enough protection at the Capitaol when they darn near new there was going to be probems with protesters there; not to mention that there were FBI informants urging protesters to enter the Capitol. Where are all the fact checkers on Biden's lies the past year?????

Rogue 65; UH-60 Black Hawk, G91-26339 (although adsb showed 26338), on Rdg apprch 125.15; twr 119.9; then back to Ft Indiantown Gap @2030L.

 

[TerryPavlick]

I'm not to sure about multiple sources being more legit than just a few.

No dog in this paticular show, except multiple being better than honest.

Thanks
Joel

I think the key message I am trying to point out is that using common sense is the best tool for those of us normal citizens (aka not involved in politics). This hobby is one that requires you to listen. The more you listen - the more knowledge you gain. Hearing something one time and reporting it as accurate versus having heard it over and over - which is always the best course of action. Just look at our attempts to identify new call signs. We hear what our mind thinks we heard but others hear differently. Gradually - the real call sign emerges whether spelled out phonetically to a ATC controller, noted in a SATCOM log, or simply making a common sense identification.

The old saying is valid here....the devil is in the details. The more you read on both sides of the story (whatever the story is) the more the truth will show itself. Unless you are actually involved in the detail level of the event - you are always relying on someone or something else for the information.

We now return to you to your local US military action.

 

[etr37]

Odd flight from yesterday into McGuire around 11am local KC-135 BLUE-47 #64-14839 Illinois ANG code 1 with crew of 3.
Overnight a BLUE-41 KC-10 #83-0078 from Travis came Northeast thru St Johns at 0530z.

I saw the BLUE-47 flight as well yesterday, on ADS over PA and didn't think anything of it - was it dragging anything?

Right now I see C-17 POLO-32 #95-0105 taking a trip up the Delaware River from McGuire and now over the DWG at FL4500 - not unusual I suppose, but interesting flight path.

 

[TerryPavlick]

I totally agree with you with the Capitol being off limits no matter which party was in charge; but the fact is that Pelosi WAS in charge and failed to have enough protection at the Capitaol when they darn near new there was going to be probems with protesters there; not to mention that there were FBI informants urging protesters to enter the Capitol. Where are all the fact checkers on Biden's lies the past year?????

Rogue 65; UH-60 Black Hawk, G91-26339 (although adsb showed 26338), on Rdg apprch 125.15; twr 119.9; then back to Ft Indiantown Gap @2030L.

Did you read all the articles I posted ? Especially the Newsweek one? One person does not control the deployment of National Guard - if you read the articles you will begin to see a different picture develop. Multiple agencies were doing their own determinations. The sources are shown in the article (aka the Department of Defense said this etc etc).

When you find me one politician who does not lie to either protect their legacy or gain more power - let me know. I would be interested in meeting that politician.

 

[AirScan]

MAINE 85 in Viper south, advised ZBW they will be AR with BAF F15s TACO and KILLER flights.

 

[Madfox]

Odd flight from yesterday into McGuire around 11am local KC-135 BLUE-47 #64-14839 Illinois ANG code 1 with crew of 3.
Overnight a BLUE-41 KC-10 #83-0078 from Travis came Northeast thru St Johns at 0530z.

BLUE41 is on CE011, should be 1 of 3 cells to drag the SW F16 westbound out of OJMS (25th),
BLUE47 therefore should be 48thFW related, as the usual BLUE41 is not available, x3 F15E are well overdue to return to EGUL being 91-0335/91-0604/97-0222 at KWRB, 97-0222 was on air test 25th March so would seem all 3 should be nice shiny new ready to rock.

 

[Mark]

Local Dover paper says the first production KC -10 #79-0433 will be retired at Dover AMC Museum come Tuesday.Will park next to the KB-50,KC-97 and the KC-135

 

[Mark]

1500 local ATN-520 from BWI to McGuire after Thule run today N751CX B752.
8C520 (ATN520) Air Transport International, Inc. Flight Tracking and History 22-Apr-2022 (KBWI-KWRI) - FlightAware
Northbound flights every Thursday on ATN-510 out of BWI.
In case you go to Thule here is some info from NASA.
Microsoft Word - Thule Greenland Orientation v2014.docx (nasa.gov)

 

[AirScan]

Will tomorrow's flight be DEUCE 41?

Yep DEUCE 41, x2 nonstandard formation within 3nm FL270/FL280 (ZME LiveATC).

 

[wbagley]

Today's DEUCE 41 flight passes Kentucky talking air to air on 228.275.

 

[GriffissSpotter]

Today's DEUCE 41 flight passes Kentucky talking air to air on 228.275.


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1721 - DEUCE 41 flight up on 228.275 for me.
1724 - DEUCE 41 flight checking on ZBW (279.500) (42 is 3nm in trail) In the block FL270-280.
1725 - No joy, going to get VHF and drop “Red River from Comm 2”
1727 - DEUCE 41 switching to 127.375
1729 - DEUCE 42 having major radio issues, 41 will pass any info from ZBW onto them. (228.275)
1730 - COMM 1 & 2 working fine, COMM 3 & 4 inoperable (228.275)
1740 - Target info passed around