Sticky Thread For MilAir 2016

[maus92]

Dover AFB flight line looks empty except for C-5M 86-0020 in nice photos
Long quiet Summer upcoming there..
Dover's birds fly north to roost at McGuire

Don't worry - there is a new low level MTR being considered for the Eastern Shore. The chickens probably won't like it.

http://www.dover.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-160115-037.pdf

Proposed Delaware low-level training route raises concerns - AOPA

AOPA suggests Monster Mile alternative - AOPA

 

[mdmonitor]

I have that as

AE1D8F EP-3E / P3 DEEPC76 156529 26975 USN | VQ-1

Thanks Guys---that had to be him

 

[mdmonitor]

ACY- Atlantic City NJ (KACY)
ADW- Joint Base Andrews MD (KADW)
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
BWI- Baltimore-Washington/Thurgood Marshall Airport (KBWI)
DAA- Davison AAF, Ft Belvoir VA (KDAA)
DCA- Reagan National Airport/CGAS Washington, Wash DC (KDCA)
DOV- Dover AFB DE (KDOV)
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
LFI- Joint Base Langley-Eustis, Va (KLFI)
MTN- Martin State Airport, Baltimore (KMTN)
NGTF-Northrop-Grumman Test Facility, Baltimore (KBWI)
NTPS-Naval Test Pilot School, PAX
PAX- NAS Patuxent River MD (KNHK)
PTC- Potomac Area TRACON
WRI- Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst NJ (KWRI)
ZBW- Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC


1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EST))

((Reach/OSACOM/PAT/JOSA flts not included--Some acft idents from local ADS-B collectors))

0710- ADS-B showing Team 15 (KC-10A # 87-0124 305th AMW WRI) at FL240 working in AR-636 off the DE/MD coast.
0725- ADS-B shows Pioneer 03 (P-8A Poseidon # 167955 VSX-1 PAX) depart PAX and heading south at FL170 over northern VA. Pioneer 03 on test discrete (320.45)
0727- CG 101 (C-37 CGAS Wash)- depart DCA then w/ZDC Calvert (133.9). ADS-B shows heading southeast towards Norfolk VA. At 0925 w/ZDC Snow Hill (132.55). ADS-B shows heading north, possibly to Atlantic City. At 1540 ADS-B shows CG 101 flying north from Norfolk area for landing at DCA.
0830- Army 112 (C-12J # 96-0112 CARA AVN SECTION Phillips AAF MD)-depart Phillips then ADS-B shows heading south passing Newport News VA at FL200.
0853- CG Sector Baltimore-comms checks (157.15) w/USCGC Cleat (WYTL 65615 Philadelphia, PA). Then switch to CG111.
0905- Musel 13 (UH-1 1st Helo Sqdn ADW)-land at ADW.
0912- ??? 01 (call missed--T-1A Jayhawk # 94-0146 14FTW/48FTS Columbus AFB MS)-land at ADW.
0916- Angry 1 flt (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG ADW)-depart ADW (348.725) then w/ZDC Swann (360.7) then w/ZDC Casino (254.3) & check into W107 (255.0). Also on discrete (139.15)
0918- Score 11 (VX-20 PAX)-check into W386 (118.125) at FL240.
0920- Wild 1 flt (2 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG ADW)-depart ADW (348.725) then w/ZDC Swann (360.7) then w/ZDC Casino (254.3) & check into W107 (255.0). Also on discrete (143.6)
0940- Tester 10 (T-38C # 158198 NTPS PAX)-w/BW (354.8). Active again in the late 1400 hour.
0941- Lancer 27 (P-8A Poseidon # 168724 VP-10 NAS Jacksonville FL)-check into W386 (118.125). AT 1130 ADS-B showed doing patterns at Atlantic City then heading south. Last noted passing over Norfolk VA area probably headed back to Jacksonville.
1115- Tester 11 (T-38C #681858 NTPS PAX)-w/BW (256.5)
1118- Scan 62 (BAC-1-11 N162W NGTF)-working on Northrop discrete (123.225)
1120- ADS-B shows N467TS (Cessna 182 FBI)-depart BWI & orbiting at 4,375ft north of Gaithersburg MD.
1124- Titus 52 (C-12 # 83-0495 ADW)-low level acty in area of ADW. Former US Embassy liaison acft.
1155- ADS-B shows Tiger 58 (P-8A Poseidon # 168850 VP-8 NAS Jacksonville FL) doing patterns at Atlantic City.
1204- Tester 12 (T-38C # 158200 NTPS PAX--female pilot)-w/BW (270.8) reporting complete and RTB PAX. Another sortie in the mid-1500 hour.
1445- Nacho 1 flt (F-22s, 27th/94th FS LFI)-check into W386 (238.1) working on discrete (233.525)
1446- Wolf flt (4 X F-22s, 27th/94th FS LFI)- working on discrete (236.55) in W386. Also on AR-636 primary (238.9) w/unheard stn.
1453- Greyhawk 04 (E-2C/D, VAW-120 NAS Chambers VA)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1455- Two unid acft (no calls noted)- in AAR on discrete (299.4). ADS-B showing KC-130R # 160627 (VX-20 PAX) operating at FL120 in PAX restricted areas.
1502- Guard 610 (prob UH-60 MD ArNG Weide AHP)-w/Weide (126.2)
1511- Raven & Colt flt (4 X A-10Cs 104th FS MD ANG MTN)-working at Kiowa MOA (233.45). Also on discretes (266.6 & 271.4) & w/Raven Ops (275.7).
1512- Guard 210 (UH-72A #11-72210 A. Co. 1-224th Security and Support Battalion (S&S) MD ArNG Weide AHP)-landing at Weide (126.2)
1530- Tester 20 (T-6B #166016 NTPS PAX)-w/BW (354.8)
1553- Blackjack 1 & 2 (MH-65Ds, CGAS Wash)-intercept training on CG discrete (157.05) & Huntress discrete (139.7).
1615- ???? 529 (unid--call missed))-land at ADW.
1627- Tester 13 (T-38C # 158201 NTPS PAX)-w/BW (270.8)
1635- ADS-B shows E-6B # 163920 TACAMO depart PAX then orbiting in the PAX restricted areas at FL110.
1700- ADS-B shows CG 2006 (HC-130J # 2006 CGAS Elizabeth City NC) at FL165 heading south along the MD/VA coast. Probably heading home the Elizabeth City.

2. HF: ((Times UTC, Freqs KHz))

15867.0 1245Z A61 (US Customs UH-60M # 08-27171) USB/ALE sounding.
15867.0 2030Z P1Z131 (1/131st Aviation, Alabama ArNG, Dannelly Field, Montgomery, AL) USB/ALE w/R23921 (ALabama ArNG UH-60A #83-23921 B/1-131st AVN (ASLT)).

Ron (mdmonitor1@verizon.net)
Baltimore MD (390747N 763711W)
VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045 w/Diamond D-130J discone (in attic)
HF: Icom R75 & Sangean ATS 909 w/45-ft PAR EF-SWL (in attic)

 

[mdmonitor]

Guys,

Quite a bit of night acty:

Weide working on 126.2

???42 working in PAX areas 305.2

Some F-22s working in W386 233.525

 

[Mark]

Don't worry - there is a new low level MTR being considered for the Eastern Shore. The chickens probably won't like it.

http://www.dover.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-160115-037.pdf

Proposed Delaware low-level training route raises concerns - AOPA

AOPA suggests Monster Mile alternative - AOPA

Thanks for links.. Yeah the AOPA suggest sending them down to Pax River low level routes which sounds fine but those areas are real busy at times as well.
I'm sure Dover USAF want their own low level routes and not the Navy routes..
Course the C-5M is much quieter than the old engined C-5's so
don't think noise will be a problem even at requested lower altitudes over Delaware.
Milford area North of Dover is mostly farmland so don't see no big deal there either.
Will be interesting to see how they resolve this proposal..

 

[BM82557]

AE1D8A 156511 EP-3E DEEPC25 had the Martinsburg - Chambersburg circle overnight. RTB PAX 06:15.

 

[Mark]

Rare mode s here today (AE4BB6) CH-53E #165345 HMH-772 "Hustlers" McGuire 2045 feet down to
1350 feet 2015z.
Was napping at time so no coms heard.. Maybe into (KEVY) Summit air field or KILG.

 

[mdmonitor]

Guys,

0940 EST- Bunch of DC ANG F-16s working today. Some went up north and another bunch are at PAX.

354.15
139.45
139.15
143.6
281.4
305.2

 

[Mark]

Couple of MD ARNG UH-72A Lakotas thru here today 11:30am local buzzing along C+D canal.
11-72208 and 11-72209 some A/A (150.550FM) then back westbound with Phillips AAF tower 126.150
as Recon 61,62. (1-224 Security & Support (S&S) Battalion)
http://29cab.org/about-29cab.html

 

[mdmonitor]

ACY- Atlantic City NJ (KACY)
ADW- Joint Base Andrews MD (KADW)
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
BWI- Baltimore-Washington/Thurgood Marshall Airport (KBWI)
DAA- Davison AAF, Ft Belvoir VA (KDAA)
DCA- Reagan National Airport/CGAS Washington, Wash DC (KDCA)
DOV- Dover AFB DE (KDOV)
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
LFI- Joint Base Langley-Eustis, Va (KLFI)
MTN- Martin State Airport, Baltimore (KMTN)
NGTF-Northrop-Grumman Test Facility, Baltimore (KBWI)
NTPS-Naval Test Pilot School, PAX
PAX- NAS Patuxent River MD (KNHK)
PTC- Potomac Area TRACON
WRI- Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst NJ (KWRI)
ZBW- Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC


1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EDT))

((Reach/OSACOM/PAT/JOSA flts not included--Some acft idents from local ADS-B collectors))

0725- ADS-B shows Steel 41 (KC-135T # 58-0054 PA ANG Pittsburgh) crossing over DE/NJ at FL290 heading for AR-636. At 0953 Steel 41 w/GK (238.1) departing AR-636 & requesting FL280 for RTB Pittsburgh.
0930- Unid acft (no call noted)-w/NTPS Ops (123.2) w/PIREP for Tester 77 (unid NTPS PAX)
0933- Energy 51 (BE-200 N6451D Dept of Energy ADW)-depart ADW then w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
0940- Royal 08 (C-17A # 07-7173 436th/3rd AS AMW DOV)-depart DOV then w/ZDC Snow Hill (132.55).
0950- ADS-B shows Yanke44 (C-130H # 74-1664 CT ANG Bradley ANGB CT) crossing MD at FL180 heading south.
0955- DeeCee 21 (KC-135R # 61-0307 756th ARS ADW)-depart ADW then w/ZDC Calvert (133.9).
1000- Venus 24 (C-20B # 86-0204 99th AS ADW)-patterns at ADW prior to land at ADW.
1002- Terra 97 (C-32A # 00-9001 150th SOS NJ ANG Joint Base-McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst NJ)-depart ADW.
1054- Tester 77 (unid NTPS PAX)-w/NTPS Ops (264.15) w/PIREP
1058- ADS-B shows Jinx 31 (C-17A # 04-4137 305th AMW/6th AS WRI)-patterns at WRI.
1440- ADS-B shows Nato 25 (E-3A LX-N90456 NAEWandCF Luxembourg) flying south along the NJ/DE/MD coast at FL240.
1442- Raven & Colt flts (A-10Cs 104th FS MD ANG MTN)-working CAS support training on discrete freqs(271.4 & 266.6)
1443- Brave flt (2 X F-16s 121st FS DC ANG ADW)-working w/Huntress (139.7) in training exercise against notional TOI (unconcious pilot in small acft) and Darkstar AWACS. Also w/BW (256.5) for clearance back to ADW.
1541- Pioneer 13 (P-8 Poseidon # 167955 VSX-1 PAX)-w/ZDC Calvert (133.9)
1548- Executive 1 Foxtrot (C-40C #02-0201 201st AS DC ANG ADW)-depart ADW. ADS-B shows heading southwest at FL300.
1550- Biker 1 flt (F-22s 27th/94th FS LFI)-check into W386 (238.1)
1551- Boxer 05 (C-40C # 02-0202 201st AS DC ANG ADW)-depart ADW. ADS-B shows heading northeast at FL110 possibly towards Atlantic City.
1615- ADS-B shows C-2 #162157 (VX-20 PAX) departing PAX and heading south at 7,800 ft.
1620- Navy 400 (C-37 # 166377 VR-1 ADW)-depart ADW then w/ZDC Calvert (133.9). ADS-B shows heading south at FL140.
1630- T-Bolt 11 flt (F-22s, 149th FS VA ANG LFI)-check into W386 (238.1)
1635- ADS-B shows Baton 52 (EC-130J # 98-1932 193rd SOG PA ANG Harrisburg PA) west of Wash DC at FL210 heading northeast, possibly heading back to Harrisburg.
1638- Roman 31 (F-18C VFA-106, NAS OCEANA VA)-w/PAX approach (281.8)



Ron (mdmonitor1@verizon.net)
Baltimore MD (390747N 763711W)
VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045 w/Diamond D-130J discone (in attic)
HF: Icom R75 & Sangean ATS 909 w/45-ft PAR EF-SWL (in attic)

 

[Mark]

Rgr Ron heard NATO 25 with inbound message to Norfolk NAS 349.500 req
stairs,transport etc.

1725z RCH 1024 EC-130J 99-1933 enroute Hurlburt Field from St Johns with Baton Ops 395.100 with eta 2020z.Seems they picked up pax and cargo at St Johns and doing relay.

 

[mdmonitor]

Mark,

Norfolk seems a strange destination. I would expect them to go to Langley more so than Norfolk.

 

[Mark]

Mark,

Norfolk seems a strange destination. I would expect them to go to Langley more so than Norfolk.

RAF tankers etc like Norfolk NAS Chambers stop as well when they head down Carib way.
NATO E-3A is probably headed South for Caribbean drug intervention work.
Seems the International players for that always stop at Norfolk. The Dutch and UK still have lots of properties down there..The US Navy stop is a natural fit..

 

[FIREBOX2914]

Every time I've been to chambers a NATO E3 (or 2) were on the transient ramp. The RAF Fighters and such tend to go into Langley when going to Red Flag.

 

[FIREBOX2914]

Picking up N907EF Do328/C-146 of Sierra Nevada Corp flying FL140-up came form out near Columbus, and now heading down the Chesapeake Bay toward Richmond.

 

[mdmonitor]

Following were posted on NOTAM web site:

A0125/16 - DUE TO MIL STATIONARY ALTITUDE RESERVATION ACLE WI THE
NEW YORK OCEANIC CTA/FIR, NEW YORK OCEANIC WILL NOT ACCEPT IFR
FLIGHT WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 3700N07240W TO 3700N07000W TO
3500N07000W TO 3500N07248W TO 3506N07240W TO POINT OF ORIGIN. SFC - FL250, 17
MAR 11:30 2016 UNTIL 18 MAR 00:30 2016. CREATED: 17 MAR 11:27 2016




FDC 6/5091 (A0117/16) - ..SPECIAL NOTICE..DUE TO REQUIRED MILITARY ACTIVITY
ON 1030/1090 MHZ, THE TCAS SYSTEM AND ADS-B SYSTEM MAY BE LESS
SENSITIVE THAN NORMAL IN THE AIRSPACE OVER PORTIONS OF MARYLAND,
VIRGINIA, NORTH CAROLINA, SOUTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA, AND FLORIDA WI AN
AREA DEFINED AS 375023N0791719W TO 390709N0781624W TO
395203N0753315W TO 394526N0711853W TO 380722N0685504W TO
361217N0684002W TO 334259N0701220W TO 282939N0734642W TO
270556N0752051W TO 254108N0795001W TO 255511N0820616W TO
283334N084244W TO 304313N0844227W TO 335829N0825527W TO POINT OF
ORIGIN. THESE ACTIVITIES WILL NOT GENERATE FALSE TCAS TARGETS. ANY
TRAFFIC ADVISORY AND/OR RESOLUTION ADVISORY SHOULD BE TREATED AS
VALID AND PILOTS SHOULD RESPOND ACCORDINGLY. IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT
THAT PILOTS EXPERIENCE AN ANOMALY WITH TCAS OR ADS-B, PILOTS ARE
ADVISED TO NOTIFY THE APPROPRIATE ATC FACILITY IMMEDIATELY. THIS
NOTIFICATION WILL PERMIT ATC TO IMPLEMENT ESTABLISHED PROTOCOLS TO
MITIGATE REPORTED ANOMALIES. SIMILAR REQUIRED MILITARY ACTIVITIES
HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED RECENTLY WITHOUT PRODUCING NOTABLE DEGRADATION
REPORTS. HOWEVER, PILOTS ARE ADVISED TO MAINTAIN AN INCREASED
AWARENESS IN THIS AREA. DAILY NOTAMS FOR THIS ACTIVITY MAY BE
PUBLISHED BETWEEN 16 MARCH 2016 AND 14 APRIL 2016. SFC-FL500. 16 MAR 05:00 2016
UNTIL 14 APR 04:59 2016. CREATED: 12 MAR 03:45 2016

 

[nyair1]

Chris,

256.5 is one of the Bay Watch (Pax River Advisory Control) discrete freqs.

Ron

Thanks guys. Looks like that's alittle bit out of my range!! Thanks for that great list of freqs Ron.

 

[BM82557]

F-35 to tour airshows this summer

FYI - "...kicks off a tour of airshows in the West, Midwest, South and Northeastern United States in April alongside 20th century war birds, like the F-86 Sabre, the P-38 Lightning and the P-51..."

Link to article - F-35 Lightning fighter to tour with classic warplanes - CNNPolitics.com

 

[freqhopping]

C-32B 02-5001 heading SW over NC while C-32B 00-9001 looks like it may be inbound for Andrews, coming from McGuire.
1518- Finally heard 00-9001 ID as TERRA-something with ADW tower.

Some places on the net associate serial number 25494 to each of these. Clearly both can't be 25494.


1620- Looks like two more P-3s heading for Pax. 160287 VVYD287 and 158222 VVYD222 from VP-4 Hawaii
161586 QE586 and 161764 VVQE764 of VP-40 landed there on the 17th

1645- YD287 with ZDC 133.9

 

[mdmonitor]

Travis,

I saw the other two land there the other day. Now another 2. I wonder if they are being handed over to PAX (prob VSX-1) for use as test beds as the original units transition to the P-8s.