Sticky Thread for MilAir II

[TinEar]

1744: BICEP 11 (F-16 NJ-ANG Atlantic City) with Patuxent to enter area and work for about 40 minutes. (Appears to be a single ship flight since there's no associated interflight freq active.)...354.8
1747: U/I aircraft (missed callsign) calling Oceana Command Post...284.9 (I believe that's the first time I've heard this freq active.)

1800: CACTI 31 (KC-10A, 84-0185, 60th AMW Travis AFB CA) to ACY Approach descending from 11,100 to 8,000 feet...cleared direct Coyle, direct McGuire...continuing descent to 7,000...124.6
1802: CACTI 31 trying to call McGuire Command Post...349.4 (Most McGuire aircraft are still using 134.1 rather than 319.4...not sure why this guy is using 349.4)
1805: CACTI 31 leaving 7,000 for 5,000...124.6
1809: BICEP 11 reports RTB at this time...direct Sea Isle and then Atlantic City...354.8
1809: REACH 4131 (C-17A, 04-4131, 6th AS McGuire) reports airborne (from Andrews) at this time...378.1
1813: BICEP 11 again reports to Pax Approach he's ready to RTB at this time...354.8
1817: REACH 4131 calling McGuire CP...no joy, x2...319.4
1819: BICEP 11 finally cleared out of Pax airspace...354.8
1819: BICEP 11 to ZDC-Kenton and checks in there...354.15
1828: BICEP 11 over to Atlantic City Approach...wants high key and then a couple of ILS approaches and then full stop...327.125
1830: Canadian Air Force CC-144, tail 144614 from 412 Squadron into the area...ZDC VHF
Last half of 1800 hour has several LBEs moving around including JOSA 916 (84-0119) and 445 (84-0077) into Andrews...some KC-10As (86-0028/84-0188/84-0192) into McGuire, a C-5A (70-0460), a couple of KC-135s (NJ 57-1507) and (PA 58-0099) and various C-17As overhead.
1917: CACTI 41 (KC-10A McGuire) calling McGuire CP on 319.4, 349.4 and w/ACY Approach 124.6 where he's descending into McGuire...down to 5000 feet at 1923.
Had a CACTI 21 earlier also.

Flying above my corner of the world from approximately 1700-1900 (when many foreign flag flights leave for Europe to be there in the morning).
PlaneSpotters Corner:
Country, Flight number, Tail, ICAO Type
Germany: DLH 417, D-AIFA, A343
Germany: DLH 445, D-AIGD, A343
Germany: DLH 463, D-ABVE, B744
Sweden: SAS 296, SE-REF, A333
France: AFR 039, F-GSPX, B772
Germany: DLH 414, D-AIKJ, A333
Netherlands: KLM 622, PH-AOI, A332
Germany: DLH 429, D-AIKI, A333
South AFrica: SAA 208, ZS-SNI, A346
Mexico: MX 003, XA-UBV, A318
Netherlands, KLM 652, PH-BQP, B772
Germany: DLH 419, D-ABVO, B744
Qatar: QTR 051, A7-AGB, A346
Spain: IB 6188, EC-GUQ, A343
Ireland: AZ 63R, EI-CRO, B763
Ireland:: AMX 403, EI-DRB, B758
United KIngdom: VIR 22, G-VSEA, A343
Germany: LTU 909, D-ALPE, A332
Austria: AUA 94, OE-LPD, B772
Iceland: ICE 643, TF-FIR, B752
Germany: LTU 415, D-ALPH, A332
France: AFR 025, F-GNII, A343
Mexico: ---, XA-JBC, B762
United Kingdom: BAW 6W, G-BNLO, B744
United Kingdom: MYT 028, G-MDBD, A332

It's not MilAir...BUT...
1838: Distress call from a boat taking on water (in English that's sinking)...location under the Key Bridge...Coast Guard units on the way to help...first on Marine Channel 16 - 156.8 and then to channel 22A -157.1 but CG not making contact with the vessel on that second freq so goes back to the emergency channel 156.8 and tries there - no response on either channel now. CG asks how many children on board...no response. Boat is called Passion Wind. Coast Guard Baltimore issues a pon-pon urgent message about the boat in distress.
Sailing vessel Priority heading toward the bridge to help.
1848: Coast Guard Baltimore continues to call the "vessel in distress" but gets no replies to many calls...156.8
1857: Baltimore County Helo (Air 3) (N808CP) to Coast Guard Baltimore asking for the Coast Guard vessels going to the Key Bridge scene switch to Channel 16 because he doesn't have Channel 22 in his radio...156.8
1859: CG Vessel 25567 to Baltimore County Helo asking what he wants...helo says his info is that a boat with six people is sinking in the area of the Key Bridge near the Administration building...CG vessel confirms that's all he has.
1900: Sailing Vessel Priority on channel 16 to say he's in the area of the Key Bridge and sees nothing...156.8
Various Police boats and Coast Guard boats all operating on Channel 22...157.1 (Many of the boats difficult to hear from here.)
1903: TROOPER 8 (MD State Police Helo) also on Channel 22 reporting he sees nothing...157.1
1905: Fire Rescue Boat #1 on scene...157.1
Baltimore County and City police boats on scene along with helo and no one sees anything...157.1
1916: One of the police boats mentions there's 3 helos up, several fire boats and Coast Guard boats in the vicinity of Key Bridge and no one sees anything.

Maybe one of you boaters can explain something...Every time one of these things happens, the boat always seems to be found a long way from where they think they are. Why don't boaters ever have a clue where they actually are in the water? I'm not a boat person so maybe there's something that's disorienting about floating around the water. Can anyone explain it?

 

[DPD1]

Some news about the C-5M testing at Edwards, showing the Dover 0013 plane.

http://www.thenorthspin.com/news07/073007usaf.html

Dave
www.DPDProductions.com
Makers of the "MilTenna" Monitoring Antenna

 

[Mark]

Some news about the C-5M testing at Edwards, showing the Dover 0013 plane.

That is good news Dave.Hopefully the Air Force goes thru with C-5B/M overhauls
for all of them.
C-17 is nice aircraft but Bigger is still sometimes better! LOL

Mark

 

[Dank]

Flying above my corner of the world from approximately 1700-1900 (when many foreign flag flights leave for Europe to be there in the morning).


Maybe one of you boaters can explain something...Every time one of these things happens, the boat always seems to be found a long way from where they think they are. Why don't boaters ever have a clue where they actually are in the water? I'm not a boat person so maybe there's something that's disorienting about floating around the water. Can anyone explain it?

Tin- A question and a commnet. Were the planes retuning to Europe at the Osh Kosk air show?

And for my commnet about your disoriented boaters --use G P S, duh!

 

[TinEar]

Tin- A question and a commnet. Were the planes retuning to Europe at the Osh Kosk air show?

And for my commnet about your disoriented boaters --use G P S, duh!

Dan, I'm fairly sure all those foreign flagged airliners I logged were commercial flights on their scheduled runs - mostly into/out of Dulles. Leaving the U.S. at that time of the evening puts business travellers into European airports first thing in the morning local time.

 

[dparana]

Just a quick note,

AXEMAN flight of two is going to be refueling with STEEL 11 and/or 12, working their join-up on 259.40. AXEMAN on 291.65 then switching to 353.85 to enter the DUKE. One kind of interesting note, the two STEEL aircraft were testing secure comms on their 293.70 A2A freq. using the Have Quick system. I, of course, just got static when they went secure. I believe they also tested sending messages, I heard a beep, like when you get an ACARS transmission. Wish I could stay and listen to their refueling, but I've got to run.

Dave

 

[CitationJet]

07.31-08.01.2007

Hi guys,

Logged the following yesterday afternoon and this morning...

07.31.2007

1733Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - AIREVAC 7602 (pres. KC-135E 57-2602 150th ARS NJ ANG) - lands rwy 1L.
1739Z 128.350 PT APP - N162W (BAC 1-11 NG) - desc. to 12000' X SABBI @ 15000' and the OTT6 arrival into BWI due to not being RNAV equipped.
1745Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 778 (C-12) - departs rwy 32 QSY 118.950 800' for 2000' cleared to 14000' QSY ZDC-Montebello 121.675.

1914Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 532 (C-12) - deps rwy 32 QSY 118.950 1300' to 2000' then cleared to 5000'.
1920Z 372.200 Andrews AFB PTD - PAT 788 (C-12) - clg here no joy. Ends up on CP freq 378.100 where I missed most of the message, but caught arrival...offload pax...C-12.
1921Z 139.400 Davison AAF Ops "DAVEY OPS" - wkg PAT 345 re: no fp in the system for PAT 345.
1925Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - MUSSEL 06 - deps DAA QSY Davison GCA 118.850 for mult. practice PAR approaches.
1926Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - PAT 788 (C-12) - lands rwy 1R.
1927Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - GUARD 16131 (UH-60 Davison) - reporting Marshall Hall freq. change requested.
1927Z 378.100 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - JOSA 716 (C-21A JOSAC) - arrival msg R-5 on board, 3000K fuel, dep. back to Scott.
1952Z 139.400 Davison AAF Ops "DAVEY OPS" - PAT 715 (C-12T 85-1267 Davison VA RFC) - inbound 15 mins. out tail #267 fuel on req. on fixed wing ramp.
1958Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 715 (C-12T 85-1267 Davison VA RFC) - outside th emarker on the ILS rwy 32 gear down full stop.

2001Z 349.400 REACH 5512 (C-130 LRAFB) - clg Dover CP.
2002Z 118.950 PAT 788 (C-12) - deps ADW to 12000'.

Big disappointment while down near Fort Belvoir/Davison AAF yesterday for an appointment - saw four C-12s parked on the transient ramp (far east side of the field and nose on), and within minutes of parking at the location of my appointment, two took off, and then a further two took off as I got back into my car AFTER the appointment and BEFORE I could get back to the field!!!

08.01.2007 am

1136Z 118.950 PT DEP - PAT 1203 (C-12T am DAA-LFI shuttle) - deps DAA 700' for 2000' cleared dir GRUBY 5000' QSY 126.400.
1140Z 118.950 PT DEP - TERRA 97 (C-32B 227th SOF) - deps ADW to 11000'.
1148Z 118.950 PT DEP - ARMY 1944 (C-37A 97-1944 OSACOM/PAT) - deps ADW to 11000'.

 

[md_p97]

From today's Frederick News Post:

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/displayUpdate.htm?StoryID=63224

Two F-16 fighter jets directed a small Cessna plane to land at the Frederick Municipal Airport this afternoon, a North American Aerospace Defense Command official confirmed.
NORAD spokesman Michael Kucharek said the agency launched the jets to intercept the pilot after he entered the northern end of restricted airspace at about 12:30 p.m.

The pilot had been heading south in the so-called "no-fly zone," the Air Defense Identification Zone surrounding Washington, Mr. Kucharek said.

The pilot was compliant, reestablishing communication with area Federal Aviation Administration air traffic controllers before landing at the airport, he said.

According to Frederick Municipal Airport manager Charles Abell, the pilot rented a Cessna 172 at the Leesburg Executive Airport in Virginia, where he is a student at the AV-ED Flight School.

The pilot was completing a cross-country solo flight required to earn his license and had flown from Leesburg to Lancaster, Pa. and was flying back to Leesburg, Abell said. Likely because of the hazy day, the pilot became lost and disoriented and entered the restricted zone, he said.

"It was an honest mistake," Abell said.

The FAA alerted Secret Service and Maryland State Police officials, who interviewed the pilot. Frederick Police Department officers searched the aircraft and found nothing suspicious, Abell said.


-- Alison Walker-Baird

 

[CitationJet]

08.01-02.2007

Hi guys,

First of all, my log of REACH 5512 from 07.31.2007 was not HH C-17A 05-5152, I put down the wrong serial after looking at the callsign - as pointed out in another post this would be a LRAFB C-130.

Logged the following yesterday afternoon and this morning...

08.01.2007 pm

1934Z 119.300 PT APP - SPACE 01 (C-21A) - 3000' for 2000' QSY TWR 118.400 for a straight in full stop rwy 1R.
1936Z 349.000 Andrews AFB TWR - WILD 1 (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG) - confirm right break and pattern altitude.

2013Z 139.400 Davison AAF Ops "DAVEY OPS" - PAT 2402 (C-12T 85-1267 OSACOM VA RFC Davison) - 10 mins. out for Hotspot 1 parking and fuel on request, tail #1267.

08.02.2007 am

1135Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 1203 (C-12T DAA-LFI shuttle OSACOM VA RFC) - deps rwy 32 QSY 118.950 @ 700' for 2000' cleared to 5000' dir GRUBY V286 QSY 126.400.

Tony
------
QTH: 6 nm. S KIAD and mobile around Northern Virginia
Radios: BCD396T, PRO-97, BC3000XLT, PRO-2055
Antennas: Maldol AL-500H, Watson W-901, Watson WSM-1900, RS Mobile, Comtelco Mobile

 

[TinEar]

This is a post just to set the record straight on the NJ-ANG 108th ARW KC-135 tankers stationed at McGuire. It has generally been believed and posted as gospel in various places here and in Europe that the two squadrons that make up the 108th ARW - 141st and 150th Aerial Refueling Squadrons - can be identified by the callsign. The 108th uses both TOPCAT and ROCCO callsigns. This is absolutely false,

Over a period of a couple of months, I made a log of 10 aircraft using the ROCCO callsign and 10 using the TOPCAT callsign when I could recover the tail number. Of those, eight specific tail numbers were noted on both lists proving that tankers from both squadrons are likely to use either callsign. Perhaps there is something specific to the particular mission of each tanker that decides whether the callsign will be TOPCAT or ROCCO. It is not the squadron assignment that decides it.

I'm posting this here because I know many of the U.S. and European MilAir enthusiasts read this thread. If anyone wants to post this to other lists, feel free to do so and feel free to use my name as the source.
*************************************************************************************

1145: CRAB 54 (C-130J, 97-1354, 135th AS MD-ANG), while working with Phillips AAF Tower, just mentioned a UAV operating to his west (which would be somewhere over the Aberdeen Range)....126.15 (CRAB 54 made a drop and told the controller he'd be back in about an hour and a half.)

1204: STINGER 03 (EA-6B, VAQ-140, NAS Whidbey Island WA) on FSS freq calling Richmond Radio a few times with no joy. He then gets a reply from Elkins Radio and identifies as a single EA-6B and spells his callsign (without the 'E' of course). His position is 64 miles east of Montebello at the point he makes contact with Elkins. He'd like Scott AFB notified that he's on the way there and will arrive in an hour and a half. He would like MId-America notified of his arrival and need for fuel - about 10,000 pounds. He'd also like jet airstart units to be available. He gives a commercial number to call, then another when the first apparently doesn't work or isn't answered (618 area codes)....255.4 (It's 1212 by the time this is done.)

Martin State MD-ANG A-10s have been up all morning at the Bollen Range. Interflight freqs have been 142.3 and 140.025..... 281.525 for Harrisburg A/D and range freq 237.2. It's ongoing early in the 1200 hour.

Couple of USTRANSCOM directed flights into Andrews this morning. REACH 290T (C-17A, 04-4137 McGuire) arrived about 1115 and REACH 292T (C-17A, 97-0044, Charleston) arrived at 1156.

I haven't logged these but, if you heard DRAGO 51 memorial flyby flights over Arlington National Cemetery on 07/30 and 08/01, the flights departed from Andrews. The first was a C-21A (84-0100) on 7/30 and the second was a KC-135R (57-1487 from the 756th ARS) on 08/01.

A German Air Force A-310, GAF 221 (tail 10+25) was in the area this morning late in the 1000 hour.

1225-30: WOODEN 11 (KC-10A, 85-0032, 305th AMW McGuire) with arrival message....134.1 (McGuire is still using 134.1 rather than 319.4 as a Command Post freq although the NOTAM about this change expired several days ago.)

The 56-day FAA NASR Supplement has has been released as of today for the period 30 August - 25 October 2007. At first glance, it appears there have been some formatting changes and I'm still trying to figure out where certain elements are now located. The AR info seems to have been moved from out of the Military Flight Routes portion of the document although I really haven't had time to look at that massive document in any detail yet. Total document is 29 MB.

At 0935 this morning I heard JOLLY 14 calling Andrews Command Post on 378.1. I later heard a BOXER 32, while talking with ADW Tower on 118.4, mention he had sight of "the JOLLY." JOLLY 14 identified as an HH-60 helicopter but I have no idea of his affiliation. Last time I heard that callsign was July 31, 2006 when JOLLY 11 was working with MUSSEL Ops on 292.2.
At 1419, JOLLY 14 is working again with ADW Approach (TRACON) on 119.3

Speaking of MUSSEL, I just heard (1404) a MUSSEL 8 calling MUSSEL 350 on 119.3 (Don't hear those 3-digit MUSSEL suffixes very often - at least I don't but don't pay very close attention to them) And now MUSSEL 8 is calling MUSSEL 280, same freq a minute later.

Early 1400 hour and the MD-ANG A-10s are still working at Bollen Range 237.2.

 

[freqhopping]

GUNNY-1 ZDC-Calvert to 354.8

DEMO?-11 with ZDC-Montebello to Gordonsville
1643- GUNNY-1/2 flight (DC ANG) on 143.6, heading to the south area. 45 minutes of on-station time with some GBUs.
1647- Someone on 143.15
Hearing the VHF stuff really well today.
1658- RAVAGE flight is working with GUNNY on 143.6. RAVAGE interflight is 139.15 "Victor-6" 143.6 is "Victor-5"
They're working with Pax on 256.5.

 

[Mark]

Hearing the VHF stuff really well today.

Rgr that as earlier 1526 local taped QUID 99 a KC-135 inbound from Mildenhall AFB calling
"Palmetto OPs" on 349.400 I believe which is Charleston AFB CP.

1730 flightaware showing NASA 906 T-38 enroute ADW from Fort Campbell in 45 minutes.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NASA906

Mark

 

[TinEar]

Rgr that as earlier 1526 local taped QUID 99 a KC-135 inbound from Mildenhall AFB calling
"Palmetto OPs" on 349.400 I believe which is Charleston AFB CP.

1730 flightaware showing NASA 906 T-38 enroute ADW from Fort Campbell in 45 minutes.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NASA906

Mark

Had the QUID 99 (60-0350, 351st ARS) here at 1846Z (1446 local) Mark. He was heard in the UK this morning at 1132Z - so just about a 7 hour trip for them.

 

[Mark]

Had the QUID 99 (60-0350, 351st ARS) here at 1846Z (1446 local) Mark. He was heard in the UK this morning at 1132Z - so just about a 7 hour trip for them.

Rgr that TIN.I think the 100th ARW guys from Mildenhall drop off KC-135's at
KWRB Warner Robins for maintenence then take another tail back to England.
Lets see if we see another QUID 99 tail within next couple days going back
as is usually the case.

1930 local ROGUE 40 acceptance check flight into Dover C-5 #87-0044,alpha 2 with various writeups.
Asking for Lockheed techs etc...Guess still needs some work..

0120 A/A REACH 166 and ETHYL 73 tanker northbound setting up AR near Nantuckett on AR primary 305.500 with real strong signal here!
That is new AR freq for me here but is listed as new AR primary freq for AR-219 on Larry's MT blog and Ohio Mil here on RR board.

Mark

 

[TinEar]

Rgr that TIN.I think the 100th ARW guys from Mildenhall drop off KC-135's at
KWRB Warner Robins for maintenence then take another tail back to England.
Lets see if we see another QUID 99 tail within next couple days going back
as is usually the case.

Mark

Like everyone else, I've always written that callsign as QUID and that's sure what it sounds like when they say it on air. However, they don't spell it that way within the unit. They use QID and also spell it that way on their flight plans. I've wanted to know the origin of it but have never been able to find anyone that goes back far enough in the unit or in USAFE that knows for sure. My feeling is that they originally really did use the Latin abbreviation Q.I.D. (quater in die) and since you can't really pronounce that as a word, they come close by saying QUID. I'm WAG-ing on that but it almost makes sense.

I've also never found out why the KC-10A McGuire unit spells the callsign DUCE instead of DEUCE either but that one I've always chalked up to someone just not knowing how to spell DEUCE when they first started using it and it stuck. Stupid is as stupid does.

Spotters Info: N1DC flying around today. It's a Gulfstream 5 that belongs to Jerry Jones, the Dallas Cowboys owner. (A $46-million plane before interior conversion)
NASCAR's Rick Hendricks also flies a Gulfstream 5 -- N600RH

1958: Coast Guard Sector Hampton Roads loud and clear tonight on 157.175 (Channel 83A)

2025: RAVAGE flight of F-16s off the deck at Andrews...w/TRACON 348.725 cleared direct Patuxent....and on interflight 143.6
2031: RAVAGE handed off to ZDC-Calvert 281.4
2033: RAVAGE handed to Patuxent and check in at 15,000 feet...cancel IFR...354.8 (Believe this is one RAVAGE and two GUNNY F-16s for now...mentioned that a second RAVAGE would be along in about 30 minutes.)
2034: REACH 311 (KC-135R, 59-1469, 756th ARS Andrews) calling LIBERATOR...25-30 minutes out, A-1, landing with about 28K on the fuel, need parking...asks if anyone is at the squadron or do they need to fend for themselves...378.1 (He's coming home from Europe...heard all over the place there...in the U.K. in the 1700Z hour)
2036: There's an E-6B (164386) from VQ-4 just coming out of New Jersey and appears to be heading for Patuxent...310.15 (Shadow Maintenance)
2047: (164)386 calling Shadow Maintenace...several calls before they hear him....10 minutes out...wants gas when he lands...says it may be a little more than when they landed last night...310.15
2047: BULLY 1 by himself to Patuxent...354.8 (before that was on ZDC-Calvert 281.4 and TRACON 348.725
2050: The RAVAGE/GUNNY/BULLY F-16s are working the range at Vienna MD doing ground attack in support of fiendlies on the ground...143.6 (also using 143.15 and 139.15)
2054: 164386 with Pax Approach...127.95
When these E-6Bs contact the Patuxent freqs, they seem to just use the last three of their serial...I'm sure they're using a callsign with ZDC but I haven't caught them recently on those freqs to know for sure what they're using and if they're still using the MERCURY callsign.
2058: REACH 311 calling TIGER Ops (756th ARS Squadron Ops) just for jovial chat...378.1

2104: SPAR 28 (C-37A, 01-0028, 310th AS MacDill) w/TRACON arriving Andrews...119.85/119.3
2105: REACH 130 w/TRACON approaching Andrews...128.35
2109: REACH 311 [female] w/TRACON on approach to ADW...128.35
2110: SPAR 28 w/ADW Tower for landing...118.4
2111: REACH 311 w/ADW Tower for landing...118.4
2112: BUCK 87 Heavy (E-4B, 73-1677, 1st ACCS) w/TRACON approaching Andrews...128.35 (He's having fun with his callsign...can't describe it...you'd have to hear it to understand)
2116: NJ-ANG F-16s up on interflight...138.875
2120: BUCK 87 Heavy to ADW Tower for landing...118.4
2125: RAVAGE 2 off the deck at Andrews...w/TRACON climbing out...direct Patuxent...348.725
2126: Have a couple of C-130H types from the 142nd AS DE-ANG (84-0210 and 84-0212) up on their squadron freq...sounds like they're preparing to land...343.0
2129: RAVAGE 2 w/ZDC-Calvert 281.4
2131: NAVY AX580 (C-130T, 164997, VR-53) landing at ADW w/Tower...118.4
2131: RAVAGE 2 sent to Pax on 354.2 which is not a good freq...goes there, no joy, back to 281.4 and is sent to 354.8 where he checks in and cancels IFR.
2142: CRAB 10 (aka CRAB 54) (C-130J, 97-1354, 135th AS MD-ANG) with Phillips AAF doing drops...after this drop he'll be looking for IFR clearance back to MTN...126.15
2146: RAVAGE 2 flight on the way home to Andrews...w/Approach...335.5 (reported Code 3 status to SENATE SOF just prior to this on 139.9)
2150: GUNNY flight to SENATE SOF with mission report...40 miles southeast, down in 5 minutes, both are Code 1...139.9
2153: GUNNY flight checking in with Approach...335.5
2155: RAVAGE 2, single ship to ADW Tower for landing on runway 19L...full stop...349.0

2201: GUNNY 1 and 2 to ADW Tower...non-standard formation...on 7 mile final for runway 19L...both report ILS and glide slope intercept...full stop...349.0
2205: BULLY flight of two to SOF...139.9
2205: BULLY flight w/Approach...335.5
2206: SAM 1642 (C-32A, 99-0004, 1st AS Andrews) w/ADW Tower for landing...118.4
2212: BULLY 1 and 2 to Tower report glide slope intercept, gear down, full stop...349.0
2215: Strange one to (almost) end the log...SAM 1686 landing w/ADW Tower...however, the only aircraft that's in the pattern landing is a KC-135R, 57-1479, 756th ARS. Could a KC-135 fly a SAM mission?...118.4
2219: RAVAGE 1 leaving Pax...256.5...over to Approach...335.5
2224: BATON 54 *(EC-130J, 193rd SOW, PA-ANG Harrisburg) to Baton Ops with arrival message...ETA 40 after the hour, A-2...395.1
2227: RAVAGE 1 to ADW Tower...ILS inbound 19L...cleared to land...349.0

Time to quit.

NOTE: In the next few days I'll be posting in the For Sale thread all three of my Uniden BC780s and the Yaesu VR-500. Advance notice here if anyone is interested before they go up on that thread.

 

[CitationJet]

08.02-03.2007

Just a few from yesterday afternoon and this morning...

08.02.2007

1720Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JOSA 719 - deps ADW to 17000' dir AML-J149 QSY 118.675.
1743Z 128.425 IAD TWR West - GERMAN AIR FORCE 221 (A310 MRTT 10+25) - departs rwy 30.

08.03.2007

1125Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - REACH 290T - deps ADW to 11000'.
1128Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 883 - visual rwy 14.

 

[md_p97]

NOTAM Number : FDC 7/0657

Issue Date : August 01, 2007 at 1242 UTC
Location : Hagerstown/Thurmont, Maryland near MARTINSBURG VORTAC (MRB)
Beginning Date and Time : August 03, 2007 at 1820 UTC
Ending Date and Time : August 07, 2007 at 1955 UTC
Reason for NOTAM : Temporary flight restrictions for VIP (Very Important Person) Movement
Type : VIP
Replaced NOTAM(s) : N/A

 

[TinEar]

NOTAM Number : FDC 7/0657

Issue Date : August 01, 2007 at 1242 UTC
Location : Hagerstown/Thurmont, Maryland near MARTINSBURG VORTAC (MRB)
Beginning Date and Time : August 03, 2007 at 1820 UTC
Ending Date and Time : August 07, 2007 at 1955 UTC
Reason for NOTAM : Temporary flight restrictions for VIP (Very Important Person) Movement
Type : VIP
Replaced NOTAM(s) : N/A

A five day CAP???? They're going to wear out some equipment on that one.

Shortly after 1000, a Royal Air Force ASCOT 2513 (L-1011 Tristar KC-1, tail ZD948, 216 Squadron) in the area.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: ASCOT 2513

Hi Tin,

ZD948 was at IAD yesterday and this am.

Tony

Shortly after 1000, a Royal Air Force ASCOT 2513 (L-1011 Tristar KC-1, tail ZD948, 216 Squadron) in the area.

 

[TinEar]

Hi Tin,

ZD948 was at IAD yesterday and this am.

Tony

And what about Royal Air Force tail XV305, a C-130/C3 from RAF Lyneham? He's up in the noon hour.

Just before the Royal Air Force C-130 came through, there was a Netherlands Air Force 11 (NAF 11, Gulfstream 4, tail V-11, 334 Squadron) also in the area.

Since no one else posted the start of the CAP....
First shift, starting around 1400, is HARASS 33 and 34, F-15s from the 71st Fighter Squadron, 1st Fighter Wing, Langley AFB VA. TANKER 01 is a KC-135R from the 133rd ARS/157th ARW NH-ANG Pease.
Primary freq for HUNTRESS (NORAD controller) is 260.9 and they're also using that as a refueling boom freq.
1543: HARASS 33 tells HUNTRES that 34 might have lost his radios according to hand signals he's seeing from the wingman. If so, he says he'll have Langley send someone else out here...260.9
1545: HARASS 33 tells Potomac they're going to be using all the freqs to find out what's wrong with HARASS 34 and wants to know if that's okay...350.25
Heard 34 call 33 one time on 260.9 but when answered he doesn't say anything.
1548: HARASS 33 is calling 34 on 260.9 and 350.25...nada for replies.
1549: HARASS 33 talking to his Ops (IRON Ops)...wants to know when the next pair is due...tells them about 34's problem...doesn't want to send 34 all the way home if he doesn't have to...357.1
1550: HARASS 33 tells HUNTRESS that 34 is NORDO...he says 34 is on his wing and he'll keep him there...says he talked to his Ops and they'll send the next pair early so 34 doesn't have to try to fly 100 miles home in NORDO condition...wants HUNTRESS to send 4-5 text messages to 34...260.9
1553: HARASS 33 asks Potomac to call HARASS 34 on Guard....350.25
1553: HARASS 34 being called by Potomac on Guard...no response...243.0
1554: HARASS 33 tells Potomac that 34 can hear him, he just can't transmit...350.25
1554: HARASS 33 is bringing 34 to the tanker to refuel...TANKER 01 tells him to hold on, he's checking his book to see but thinks a NORDO situation prevents refueling unless it's an emergency situation...HARASS 33 tells him to check the book but see if he can make it happen...260.9
1557: TANKER 01 explains what the book says...apparently, they can't/won't refuel HARASS 34 without radio comms with him....33 tells HUNTRESS that if they can't refuel, he's going to have to bring HARASS 34 home...and lets HUNTRESS ponder that....260.9

1605: HARASS 33/34 in trail behind TANKER 01...they're still talking but the tanker won't refuel 34 unless it's declared an emergency...33 asks HUNTRESS if he can declare an IFE to get the refueling accomplished...asks if he'll need to go home if he declares an iFE just to get the job done...260.9
By the way, TANKER 01 is having trouble finding the relevent sections in his manual because the "book is in tatters."
1608: They are going to refuel and call it an "emergency procedure" to get around any rules prohibiting a NORDO refueling op...260.9
TANKER 01 is just getting in position and they'll begin refueling both fighters...260.9
1609: HARASS 33 calling IRON Ops...357.1
1610: HARASS 33 bringing 34 into the boom, then will hang out on the left wing...260.9
HARASS 33 while chatting mentions that he can only reach his Ops (IRON Ops) while he's in the south part of the CAP.
1614: TANKER 01 says he can't get too far south in the CAP because he can't "turn this old boat around" and stay in the CAP if he gets closer than about 15 miles from the southern edge of the CAP...260.9
1614: HARASS 33 to IRON Ops...explains about the AR for 34 and that after they refuel he'll bring him back in a NORDO procedure...357.1
1617: TANKER 01 tells 33 that 34 got 13,000 pounds...33 will now go get some gas...TANKER 01 is turning north and 33 says that's okay because he already got his Ops...260.9
1622: 33 is now also off the boom...01 asks if they'll be back and 33 says he thinks they can make it with what they have now...260.9
1623: HARASS 33 repeats what HUNTRESS says about 33 declaring EP (Emergency Procedure) for 34 so he could refuel, etc...260.9
1628: HUNTRESS gives the HARASS pair a TOI...then tells them to "skip it"...260.9
1657: TANKER 01 explains to HUNTRESS that he found the section in his manual that covers refueling a "no radio" (NORDO) aircraft...what it boils down to is the controlling agency (in this case the NORAD controller HUNTRESS) can decide based on the "critical nature" of the mission. If the controller decides the mission fits that criterion, he can authorize the tanker to refuel the aircraft....it's covered in the manual - ATP 56B, Part 1, Chapter 5, Section 513...260.9

1725: HARASS 36 calls 33 to say they're about 20 miles south of Nottingham...33 explains 34's situation being NORDO and says he'll be bringing 34 back to Langley....260.9
1726: HARASS 36 w/ZDC-Irons 260.85 and gets handed off to Potomac 350.25 and he checks in there.
1727: HARASS 33 tells HUNTRESS that HARASS 36 is coming in and 35 won't take off for another 45 minutes or so...260.9
1727: HARASS 36 tells 33 he's going straight to the tanker and asks HUNTRESS for bogey dope to the tanker...260.9
Not sure how much good a single fighter replacement is going to do...will HUNTRESS allow 33 and 34 to leave which they've got to do to be able to get 34 back to Langley? Or are they considering 36 as the second fighter since 34 is virtually useless.
1730: TANKER 01 is now down to low fuel situation...he can give 5K to a couple of fighters...it all depends how soon HUNTRESS will let him leave...the sooner he can go, the more fuel he can offload to the fighters...anyway, HARASS 36 is just going to take 1000 pounds for now to make sure he can refuel and then says he'll play it by ear after that....260.9
Same old situation again. I thought they learned last time that a KC-135 can only stay on station for three hours if he's giving gas to F-15s. This one has been here since 1400 so it's 3.5 hours already.
1732: HARASS 33 asks 36 about 35...36 doesn't know....260.9....33 goes to IRON Ops on 357.1 to ask about 35...don't know the answer he got since he didn't repeat it...tells Ops that 36 is on the tanker getting gas...357.1
1734: TANKER 01 again going over how much fuel he has to give...as of right now he's got 17K to bingo but, of course, he's using up some of that fuel for as long as he's kept on station...260.9
1735: HARASS 33 tells HUNTRESS that 35 is taking off right now and should be here in about 25 minutes...260.9
1737: HARASS 36 off the boom after taking 4,000 pounds...260.9
1738: HARASS 36 back in the CAP and tells HUNTRESS he can handle it and they can let 33/34 RTB (something tells me his plan won't work w/HUNTRESS)...260.9
There has not been a single word mentioned about TANKER 02 and when he's due to arrive. It looks like they're back to those unworkable 4 hour shifts.
1740: HARASS 33 has comms with 35...tells him to push it up because HUNTRESS won't let 33/34 leave until he gets here...260.9 (Thought so!)
1742: TANKER 01 asks HUNTRESS if 35 will come into the airspace from the southeast...if so, they'll move in that direction...260.9
1743:TANKER 01 reports HARASS 33 took a total fuel offload of 21,700 pounds and 34 took 22,700 pounds...260.9
1750: HARASS 35 to 36 to coordinate altitudes for entering the CAP area....TANKER 01 to 35 to ask if he's coming to the boom right away....35 says yes he'll come do a boom check anyway...260.9
1751: HARASS 33 asks HUNTRESS for permission to start working their clearance...260.9....33 to Potomac to report 5 minutes from RTB and asks for their clearance...350.25
1752: TANKER 01 asks HUNTRES if he's had any words from TANKER 02 yet...01 asks if HUNTRESS plans to have them stay until they get to bingo and then take off...260.9
1753: HARASS 35 tells 01 he's 40 miles behind him and asks him to do a 360..01 will do that....260.9
1754: HARASS 33/34 released by HUNTRESS...260.9....33 to Potomac to report he's ready to RTB...first checkpoint is Nottingham...going out at FL 215...350.25
1754: HARASS 35 will take 4K from the boom, nose cold, weapons safe per routine...260.9
1757: HARASS 33 tells Potomac that 34 is NORDO and he might not be able (I think Potomac wanted 34 to set a specific squawk)...350.25
1759: HARASS 35 reports his tail as 50102 (85-0102) to TANKER 01...260.9

1801: HARASS 35 off the tanker...he asks HUNTRESS if they have to keep the north or can they go anywhere...(Can't hear HUNTRESS but I know they always require someone in the north)...260.9
1803: TANKER 01 tells HUNTRESS they're bingo plus 2....HUNTRESS clears him to RTB...260.9....01 to Guard Dog for his clearance back to Pease....135.525
1803: Potomac wants HARASS 34 to turn off his squawk...33 expalins that 34 can't transmit or receive...they solve the problem by having 33 turn off his squawk and the flight will use 34's squawk...350.25
1805: TANKER 01 explaining to Guard Dog that they're going to Pease Air National Guard Base in New Hampshire...135.525
1805: HARASS 33/34 to ZDC-Calvert and again the controller wants 34 to turn off his squawk...33 explains that he can't tell him to do that...cleared direct Harcum...281.4
And so here we are once again with no tanker on station because of lousy planning on someone's part.
1807: TANKER 01 cleared to Woodstown...135.525
1807: TANKER 01 handed off to ZNY-Harrisburg freq 133.475 so here's where I drop him. He was up to FL 350 at this point.
1808: TANKER 01 to HUNTRESS to say they got their clearance and goodbye...260.9
1810: HARASS 36 tells 35 to Push Man Prime and they come up on 360.15 to chat...36 asks 35 what happened (to make him late) and 35 tells him he had a little family emergency today - and the subject is dropped....360.15

1830: TANKER 02 shows up...KC-135R, 61-0298, WI-ANG Milwaukee...260.9
I've copied this tanker three previous times in the CAP as follows:
2007-07-06... 09:24:58... TANKER 21
2007-04-13... 19:03:42... TANKER 02
2007-03-23... 15:57:02... TANKER 01
In June, this tanker had a trip to Europe. He was copied in the UK and the Netherlands as BOBBY 31 from 6/25-6/27

1844: HARASS 36 heading for TANKER 02...260.9
1848: HARASS 36 reports he's from the 1st Fighter Wing, tail 81-0036...looking for a topoff, approximately 10K...260.9
1852: HARASS 36 off the boom and back in the CAP...260.9

2256: TANKER 02 picking up his clearance back to Milwaukee....135.525
2257: TANKER 02 kisses HUNTRESS goodbye...he's done and gone...260.9
2257: HARASS 35/36 picking up clearance back to Langley...350.25
2259: HARASS 35/36 cleared direct Nottingham as they prepare to leave the Guard Dog area...350.25

2300: HARASS 35/36 say sayonara to HUNTRESS and switch to Man Aux...260.9
2300: HARASS 35/36 over to interflight...360.15
2301: TANKER 02 handed off to ZDC-Hagerstown...134.15
2301: HARASS 35/36 handed off to ZDC-Irons...350.85
And the CAP is done until 0600.