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[BM82557]

OK Just got finished making up a scanner programmed with everything except for the ATC freqs for :
NORAD
FACSFACS VA CAPES
ANDREWS AFB
MARTIN STATE
ATLANTIC CITY
WILLOW GROVE
LANGLEY
RICHMOND
MC QUIRE
DOVER

Off the top of my head I figure those bases should be most of the major players for this area.

Just a general question to everyone - considering his location would there be anything worth listening to for him from Wallops Island?

 

[CitationJet]

Re: 5N-FGT

Tin,

5N-FGT is BBJ c/n 34260.

Tony

Just before 1700, I had a Nigerian Government aircraft, flight NGR-1, type CRJ2 (Canadian regional jet POS), tail 5N-FGT that appeared to be departing Dulles and heading due south.

 

[TinEar]

Just a general question to everyone - considering his location would there be anything worth listening to for him from Wallops Island?

Other than seagulls, nothing I'm aware of.

 

[SquelchKnob]

Other than seagulls, nothing I'm aware of.

I'll find something to stick in that bank. Maybe some Helo stuff from the DC area.

BTW Tin, 143.0375 (FM) CMAA @ PAX. "Alpha Alpha Standing by for Engine starts". I think this is VQ-4 but am not certain. Nothing on their Maint Freq yet though

 

[TinEar]

BTW Tin, 143.0375 (FM) CMAA @ PAX. "Alpha Aplha Standing by for Engine starts". I think this is VQ-4 but am not certain. Nothing on their Maint Freq yet though

Standing by to copy. :lol:

Nick, if you're still here, these E-6B aircraft come very close to your position after takeoff. You might be in a prime position to hear some of this traffic too. As I mentioned earlier, they generally take off to the south, go about 30 miles and then turn on about a 270 degree course. That would take them north of Richmond by 20-30 miles at the most.

[Doesn't do anything for us but a friend just let me know an E-6B (163919 from VQ-4) just came into his listening range but...uhhh...he's out in California]

And that got my good bud in Florida to remind me it's 79 degrees at his house right now.

1806: Royal Air Force...ASCOT 2111, VC-10 (C1K), tail XV-106, 101 Squadron overhead the area at FL 350....ZDC VHF

I forgot to mention earlier, around 1300, REACH 124 arrived back at Martin State. This was one of their own C-130J aircraft (97-1354) that departed as REACH 124 on the morning of the 11th, was heard later that day in Europe and logged in the UK as late as yesterday.

1845: REACH 463 (C-5A, 69-0008, 105th AW NY-ANG) calling Dover CP with arrival message...has hot cargo...349.4 (Arriving from Europe)

1857: Have some helos on the Baltimore area Helo Channel talking about picking up icing on their windshields...County Air 1 (Balt. County PD) and Foxtrot 2 (Balt. City PD) talking...123.025

 

[SquelchKnob]

Standing by to copy. :lol:

Nick, if you're still here, these E-6B aircraft come very close to your position after takeoff. You might be in a prime position to hear some of this traffic too. As I mentioned earlier, they generally take off to the south, go about 30 miles and then turn on about a 270 degree course. That would take them north of Richmond by 20-30 miles at the most.

Still undetermined whether they are gonna launch or not. Appear to be going to do at least start engines, No request for authorization from TWR for engine starts though. If nothing else I am getting their routine down so when they do launch I should be able to read it in advance and get a notice out.

Also only heard one Fuel Truck go over. I would imagine those puppies could handle at least two.

1751: I am assuming they have to have authorization for engine start from TWR so I have the 8500 working both Ground Freqs. Have all the freqs from the PAX WIKI in a BC780 and have 310.15 in the Pro26. If they do anything I'll know it. At least we be prepared for when/if they roll.

If I was at work I could hear them firing up and would know exactly when they were leaving.

Tell your bud in Florida to UPS some of that up here.

Just did some looking on the net. This bunch should have Navy Maintainers shouldn't they? I can't seem to locate any HH maint freq. I guess I will have to work on getting that. If I had that they should be a good resource for clues as to when they are going to roll.

And BTW as of 1811 I have heard nothing further from ANYONE from PAX ground side. So maybe these guys are not going to start or something changed. All I have gotten for about 10 minutes from Ground side is ZDC Remote on 133.9/281.4

Sent a request out earlier to join a SCANMILAIR feed. That should help me see what I am missing around here pretty fast.

OK 12 radios are up and running under PC control. Temp hooked up to the handicapped antenna install. Doing pretty good so far though. Have 3 more I hope to get up tonight and then I will have done everything I had hoped to get done this weekend. Made the mistake earlier of forgetting to turn everything off before doing some moving around. Messed around and toasted almost every fuse I have cause I forgot to turn off the 12V power supply. :lol:

1847: 349.4 MC Guire CP & 292.2 Muscle OPS hitting down here. Weak. Tin I see you got that and have it as DOVER. Used for both around here?? I do have it in both scan lists. Just curious and wanted to confirm.

1910: ?? 35 calling Mc Guires CP. With inbound ETA of 20. PAX, Cargo Info. Did not copy much more as I had about 5 scanners decide to go active at once. :lol:

 

[Mark]

1847: 349.4 MC Guire CP & 292.2 Muscle OPS hitting down here. Weak. Tin I see you got that and have it as DOVER. Used for both around here?? I do have it in both scan lists. Just curious and wanted to confirm.

1910: ?? 35 calling Mc Guires CP. With inbound ETA of 20. PAX, Cargo Info. Did not copy

Yes McGuire can and is listed also using 349.400 for close in aircraft but seems
they never listen to it or use so aircraft usually switch over to regular CP 319.400
after countless tries on 349.400.

Caught what you heard sounded here like BOEING 35...Was hard to read her.
Gave tail as 04-4135 which is McGuire C-17.
Maybe a depot delivery of overhauled C-17 tail 35 most likely.

Mark

 

[SquelchKnob]

Yes McGuire can and is listed also using 349.400 for close in aircraft but seems
they never listen to it or use so aircraft usually switch over to regular CP 319.400
after countless tries on 349.400.

Caught what you heard sounded like DAWN 35 or THONG 35 LOL.Was hard to read her.
Gave tail as 04-4135 which is McGuire C-17.

Mark

Since she was a female lets make it Official and say it was THONG :lol:

Quit changing things :lol:

 

[TinEar]

Since she was a female lets make it Official and say it was THONG :lol:

Let's make it even more official. Her callsign was BOEING 135 (C-17A, 04-4135, 305th AMW McGuire).
She was in this area yesterday in the 1500 hour too....oops...my mistake. She wasn't here yesterday. My notes say 11/14 which wasn't yesterday. Can someone confirm this is December?
For flight plan purposes, she's filed as BOE 135. And if you look it up on FlightAware, she arrived 929 days ago.

1952: REACH 0621 with ZDC-Salisbury currently at FL 330 and requesting FL 350...120.975 (Bahhh...it's an MD-11, N274WA - a World Airways contract aircraft)
1955: REACH 0621 requesting direct JFK...he's heading to the northeast on a heading of 35 degrees ..120.975
1958: U/I aircraft working 376.075...kind of weak from here. (Nevermind...it was mixing from a VHF freq somewhere)
Lots of aircraft complaining about bumpy rides. They're trying to get as high as possible and get above it if they're long haul - and under it if they're local. Helos in the Baltimore area are going to pack it in because of icing.
I was just listening to an Australian flight (QFA 108, a B747, reg VH-OEG) out of JFK. He's crossing southern PA on his way to LAX and also complaining about an awful ride at FL 330 and requesting higher. Gets it and climbs to FL 380 for now. Everyone complaining about chop and asking for ride reports, no matter the altitudes they're at. Doesn't sound pleasant up there tonight.

2026: REACH 251 [female] (C-17A, 92-0600, 62nd AW McChord) reporting in at FL 250 to ZDC-Sea Isle...133.125
2033: NAVY 101 (C-37B, 166377, VR-1) with TRACON on approach to Andrews...119.85

 

[BM82557]

I have a slight issue with icing this morning

 

[SquelchKnob]

I have a slight issue with icing this morning

Ouch, Just rain here in So MD.

 

[TinEar]

Electric power going off and on here this morning. Not even going to try to listen for anything today or even turn on the radios. It's a good day to read a book.

 

[ScanManQSL]

Electric power going off and on here this morning. Not even going to try to listen for anything today or even turn on the radios. It's a good day to read a book.

Your power problems might get worse. From looking at the NWS website the wind is going to pick up as this low pressure system moves away from our area.

This Afternoon: Areas of drizzle before 1pm. Cloudy, then gradually becoming mostly sunny, with a high near 44. Breezy, with a west wind 13 to 16 mph increasing to between 21 and 24 mph. Winds could gust as high as 45 mph.

Tonight: Partly cloudy, with a low around 27. Breezy, with a west wind between 23 and 28 mph, with gusts as high as 48 mph.

 

[ka3jjz]

Re power problems - I've been up since 7:30 and nary an issue. Fortunately we didn't get the icing conditions the NWS was predicting early in the week - just some much needed rain. The more the merrirer...although I was hoping for a white Xmas....must be something local to you Tin

73s Mike

 

[BM82557]

Temp is up to 35 and the ice is melting off the power lines, trees etc. Maybe most of it will melt before the wind picks up.

 

[trainman111]

Nick, if you're still here, these E-6B aircraft come very close to your position after takeoff. You might be in a prime position to hear some of this traffic too. As I mentioned earlier, they generally take off to the south, go about 30 miles and then turn on about a 270 degree course. That would take them north of Richmond by 20-30 miles at the most.

Oh yes, I'm still here and listening. I just haven't posted anything lately as I've been quite busy. Now, do they use VHF or UHF ATC freqs.? And are there any ops frequencies that they might be using while in the air?

 

[SquelchKnob]

1309: 234.6 NORAD Getting something down here that keeps breaking the squelch. Have very low audible beeps at regular intervals. Anybody else get this around here on this freq? Trying to determine if I have some problems I need to address.

1317: Just had hits, verbal but too weak to copy on 138.2 NORAD as well. So maybe I don't have an issue.

 

[TinEar]

Oh yes, I'm still here and listening. I just haven't posted anything lately as I've been quite busy. Now, do they use VHF or UHF ATC freqs.? And are there any ops frequencies that they might be using while in the air?

Electric power problems seem to have subsided for now. Lost it for about two hours earlier.

Nick, the freqs are what we're trying to determine. I know they use the Pax freqs for arrival and departure and also use SHADOW Maintenance freq 310.15 at Pax. However, they only use the last three digits of their BuNo when talking to Pax. I'm looking for the handoff freqs once they leave Patuxent and their first Washington Center freq. Once in the ATC system, they change to a one-time callsign and use that the rest of the way. It has been difficult to grab them at that point mainly because of the poor reception I have from the Pax area and just to the south of it. It's kind of a dead zone for me. Once an aircraft gets nearer to Richmond or south of there, I have no trouble copying them. Anyway, any help you can extend to finding these guys in the ATC system will be appreciated.

 

[JohnFB]

My newest C-5 list shows no 'A' models remaining there. We have 13 identified of the 16 they're supposed to have by "early 2008."

Thanks, Tin .... you can probably tell what's going into KCEF better than I can. My Westover coverage is often problematic due to the inability to mount an external antennae @ my location.

I've read that Westover may be up to the full 16 B models by "mid 2008.' Also, there are two B models getting their AMP upgrade @ Dover ..... I don't know if they are part of your list.

 

[TinEar]

Also, there are two B models getting their AMP upgrade @ Dover ..... I don't know if they are part of your list.

86-0013
86-0025
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1320: REACH 685 (C-5A, 69-0027, 167th AS WV-ANG Martinsburg) talking to OKBK Center (Kuwait Center)...IDs as a C-5 and reports destination OTBH (Al Udeid, Qatar)...125.3
1335: REACH 957 (C-5A, 68-0226, 137th AS NY-ANG) working with Kuwait Center...descending in the airspace....handed off to freq 121.3 (OKBK Approach)...125.3
Currently 65 degrees at Kuwait International Airport.
1337: REACH 957 descending from 9000 to 3000 feet...w/OKBK Approach...121.3 (OKBK=Kuwait International Airport)
1341: REACH 957 handed off to OKBK Tower freq 118.3 for landing runway 33R...121.3 (Didn't hear him on 118.3 landing)
I love this controller at Kuwait Center. Twice in the past 15 minutes I've heard commands given like this most recent one...
"OMNI 501, descend from FL 260 down to 10,000 feet"/Kuwait Center Controller
"This is OMNI 501, we'll descend to 10,000 but we're at FL 300, not 260."
"I don't care...descend to 10,000 feet"/Kuwait Center Controller
The controller is very sure where he wants the aircraft to be. He just doesn't have any idea where they currently are. Don't worry. Be happy.

1409: PUMA 67 (C-130J, 06-4634, 41st AS Pope) to Andrews CP to report takeoff time as 1906Z...time at destination 2245Z...378.1
This same aircraft came into Andrews on the 15th using REACH 6632. That confused the issue since that would have made his tail number 06-4632. However, in today's message he gave his tail number and yesterday flew as EVAC 4634 which removes all confusion. The only confusion now is where he's stationed. Scramble shows Pope...the newest C-130 list shows Little Rock.)
About 15 minutes earlier, a PUMA 917 was heard arriving at Andrews. That one should be tail 06-4631, another C-130J form Pope - or Little Rock.

1409: French Air Force (Armee de l Aire)...Flight CTM 1283 (A-319-115, tail 1556/F-RBFB) into the area
1411: Egyptian Air Force ...Flight EGY 1125 (C-130H, Tail 1297/SU-???) also into the area
1441: Royal Air Force...(C-130J (C4), tail ZH-877, Lyneham Transport Wing)