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I had a just turned on the radios and hear that a call sign BISON (C-130) had an IFE last night and landed at KAVP. A support aircraft (mechanics?) and also BISON aircraft departed KAVP tonight and headed back to Niagara. I guess they got the problem fixed.
 

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0350-0405 local overnight tape sounded like MAZDA 81 flight into Atlantic City mentioned
runway 31 and billeting in Atlantic City on UHF.Sounded like at least 6 F-16's.
Said "we are 2+2+2 6 miles in trail front to back".

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Hi guys

Ron and I have been discussing Andrews freqs, and we had questions about any freqs still in operation for VR-1, VR-48 and VR-53.

I had only 385.2000 for VR-48 Skyliner Base but not sure if this freq is still in operation or not? Nothing for VR-1 or VR-53 specifically.

Are most of the ops for VR-1, VR-48 and VR-53 covered by 362.900 now or are we missing ops action for these units on separate freqs?

Tony

As a follow up...

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, I took the Andrews frequencies in the database, removing the ARTCC, GK and TRACON freqs, and swept the Sticky III messages by frequency using the tools in the forum. The results are interesting - bolded items have no hits. 'OK' had more than 1 hit

283.10000 Warren Grove (Pennsylvania) OK
349.10000 Dare (North Carolina) - Air Force OK
358.00000 Dare (North Carolina) - Navy (listed as a PAX freq as well; 1 hit all year)
237.20000 Kiowa (Pennsylvania) Range (Bollen Range frequency; OK)
139.62500 Warren Grove (Pennsylvania) Range (old - no longer used?)
122.90000 Dare (North Carolina) Range - Air Force (listed for TESTER base at PAX - nothing rpted on Andrews)
122.90000 Dare (North Carolina) - Navy (ditto)
141.70000 1st Helicopter Squadron (UH-1 Helicopters)
297.50000 1st Helicopter Squadron (UH-1 Helicopters)
302.60000 VFMA-321 Command Post
280.45000 VFMA-321 Tactical
243.60000 VFMA-321 Tactical
272.40000 VFMA-321 Tactical TESTER frequency - 2 reports all year
310.35000 VFMA-321 Tactical

280.20000 Naval Air Reserve Squadron "Cobra" Command Post (VAQ-209, a.k.a. "Star Warriors," EA-6B Aircraft) OK
314.25000 201st ALS Command Post ("Boxer Ops," C-38 Aircraft) 1 hit all year
283.75000 457th Airlift Squadron ("Caribou Ops," use callsigns PACER and JOSA) OK - common freq?
283.87500 457th Airlift Squadron - JOSA aircraft inter-plane
143.80000 756th Air Refueling Squadron - Command Post ("Tiger Ops," KC-135 aircraft) Too much clashing with RAVEN ops?
142.75000 Venus Control, 99th AS 1 report all year

I'm not at all sure that the 121st presets listed in the db are even valid anymore. I did a broad check on VFMA-321 on Global security, and barring a typo (always possible) it came up empty. (A side note, kinda funny when you think about it - do they realize they are picking up an add for the upcoming Battlestar Galactica season on their website? hi)

Seems like the Andrews db could stand some cleanup

73 Mike
 
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Re: VMFA-321

Mike,

VMFA-321 was deactivated in 2004.

Tony

I did a broad check on VFMA-321 on Global security, and barring a typo (always possible) it came up empty. (A side note, kinda funny when you think about it - do they realize they are picking up an add for the upcoming Battlestar Galactica season on their website? hi)

Seems like the Andrews db could stand some cleanup

73 Mike
 

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That only goes to show you how old some of those listings are. I'll have their freqs stripped from the database. Thanx Tony 73 Mike
 

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As a follow up...

143.80000 756th Air Refueling Squadron - Command Post ("Tiger Ops," KC-135 aircraft) Too much clashing with RAVEN ops?
Seems like the Andrews db could stand some cleanup

73 Mike

UHF Tiger Ops is back in use as well on 351.200.
756th/459th ARW KC-135's use that a lot at Andrews.

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If memory serves, that's Liberator now, not Tiger Ops?. That's the way I've heard it reported, in any case. I've heard it even on my crappy indoor antenna, which tells you something, for sure 73 Mike
 

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Re: 459th ARW AFRC Ops

Guys,

I have not heard them refer to CP as Tiger for quite some time now, callsign is usually LIBERATOR.

I have it tagged as LIBERATOR CP.

Tony

UHF Tiger Ops is back in use as well on 351.200.
756th/459th ARW KC-135's use that a lot at Andrews.

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Coronet deployment today

0350-0405 local overnight tape sounded like MAZDA 81 flight into Atlantic City mentioned
runway 31 and billeting in Atlantic City on UHF.Sounded like at least 6 F-16's.
Said "we are 2+2+2 6 miles in trail front to back".

Nice catch Mark !! These were the delayed AFRC F-16s enroute to Balad airbase in Iraq.
The first cell, Mazda 71-76 made it and should be landing in Spain this afternoon, although I
just got a message that they may have diverted into Lajes.

Never picked up these guys with Boston ATC, only a short transmission this morning around
0915z with New York Oceanic on 125.925. Very wierd, did anyone hear them with other ATCs ?

The second cell has been re-filed for tomorrow.

Hope this helps,


RH.
 

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Guys,
I have not heard them refer to CP as Tiger for quite some time now, callsign is usually LIBERATOR.
I have it tagged as LIBERATOR CP.

Tony

Your right Tony..Liberator Ops. I remember way back it was Rodeo Champ at one time,then Tiger and now Liberator..
Sometimes I hear sounds like Liberty Ops used by visiting pilots?

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Nice catch Mark !! These were the delayed AFRC F-16s enroute to Balad airbase in Iraq.
The first cell, Mazda 71-76 made it and should be landing in Spain this afternoon .

Thought I heard earlier MAZDA 71 but wasn't sure.
RB box had a couple tankers in the area at the time.
KC-135 #58-0069 6th AMW 0835z
KC-135 #62-3507 319 ARW Grand Forks 0807z.

MAF-1 getting ready to leave Andrews
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAF1
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Mexico---Air/Boeing-757-225/0365410/L/

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Take it a tad slower on any thought of scrubbing TIGER from the 756th at Andrews. Although the Squadron Ops callsign is LIBERATOR, the TIGER callsign is still very much in use within the unit. Once airborne, the tankers refer to each other on the interplane freq by the TIGER callsign, e.g., "TIGER1, this is TIGER 2 on Comm 1." And they refer to Ops by the TIGER handle. I honestly have no idea of the background of the TIGER call, why they retain it, or how it fits into the scheme of things within the unit. But it's there and in use which is primarily what matters to someone monitoring the unit on the radio - like us.

The 351.2/143.8 frequencies are still assigned to the 756th ARS unit. They almost never use the 143.8 freq in this area, I assume due to the overlap with RAVEN Ops at Martin State on the same freq. The tankers have been heard using it for interplane chat once safely out of the immediate area, indicating they still "own" it.

JohnFB said:
349.700 is also used by 103AW for Shark Ops, SOF and interplane, although 138.550 is the most common used freq.

Thanks John. I've kept the 349.7 freq in the rotation since I do occasionally hear them using it. I've also kept the old VHF SHARK Ops freq 141.9 in there although can't remember the last time I had it active. Do you know if they've kept that one too? Or has 138.55 taken its place?
 
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Re: LIBERATOR/TIGER

Thanks for the info Alan, I've personally not heard them refer to ops on 351.200 as anything other than LIBERATOR in quite some time. Glad to receive your confirmation re: TIGER still in use.

Another question re: Andrews freqs - does anyone have a recent confirmation of a UHF side for GCA 125.350?

Take it a tad slower on any thought of scrubbing TIGER from the 756th at Andrews. Although the Squadron Ops callsign is LIBERATOR, the TIGER callsign is still very much in use within the unit. Once airborne, the tankers refer to each other on the interplane freq by the TIGER callsign, e.g., "TIGER1, this is TIGER 2 on Comm 1." And they refer to Ops by the TIGER handle. I honestly have no idea of the background of the TIGER call, why they retain it, or how it fits into the scheme of things within the unit. But it's there and in use which is primarily what matters to someone monitoring the unit on the radio - like us.
 

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Mark/Travis/Dave and anyone else with a Mode-S receiver in this area:

For the past few days I've been seeing an Omni International DC-10 (N603AX) showing up on the ADS-B display giving the "on the ground" indicator. The signal seems to stay up for an hour or two. I'm assuming two things - (1) it's on the ground at BWI and, (2) they're working on the Mode-S transponder aboard the aircraft. I could be wrong on both counts. The constant position being displayed is 39.661N/-76.000W. That never changes but those coordinates place him up in the northeast corner of Maryland and not at BWI. Is anyone else seeing this signal (doubtful if he's really at BWI but possible if he's not?)
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A couple of minutes before noon and I'm logging three of those unknown hex codes currently flying at low altitudes -- AE138E/AE1393/AE1395. Anyone?

I'm also currently displaying AE1214 showing 60 9825 in his callsign block but that tail number isn't computing on Scramble as valid. It's an unknown hex code in my system. Anyone have anything for it? It's flying at 17,000 feet and showing a Mode3 of 1636. On the log since 1152.
Beginning to descend at 1205
1215: This aircraft is now showing at 4500 feet. Hopefully, he's landing at ADW and I'll be able to get a callsign at least. Need help guys.
Nope...apparently not going into ADW...lost the Mode-S signal at 4500 feet which indicates somewhere else. That altitude is where I lose them at Dover/Pax/Wilmington. At night those three bases can get me down to around 3000 feet.

Also displaying SCORE 12, an unknown KC-130F from Patuxent. Along with that, I have someone refueling SALTY DOG 102 (F/A-18E, 166421, VX-23 Pax) on Pax freq 277.0. The tanker is very probably my SCORE 12 - although I haven't heard him report that callsign on the radio. It's displayed in his Mode-S transponder. They're having a problem with bumpy weather around 1210. He just mentioned going lower to about 15,000 feet (currently showing at 17,000) but then said it's smoothing out now. A possible BuNo for the KC-130F is 149808.
1213: Tanker resetting the hose and then invites SD 102 back in for contact...277.0
1220: Confirm SCORE callsign for the tanker...277.0 (Didn't use the suffix though)
1225: SCORE 12 and SALTY DOG 102 have completed their work...say they'll see each other later...277.0
1228: SCORE and SD 105 (F/A-18A, 163093, VX-23) now make contact on BayWatch freq...270.8 (Mention freq 123.525 or .575....123.525 is a Navy refueling freq heard often w/Pax aircraft)
1235: SCORE and SD 105 on 123.525 for refueling activity.
1245: And a SALTY DOG 402 (F/A-18C, 163706, VX-23) also refueling with the SCORE tanker...123.525
1311: SCORE 12 still being logged.
1330: SCORE 12 still up and still at 17,000 feet (91 minutes on the log)

Also had TROUT 98 (C-20E, 87-0139, U/I Unit) land at ADW around 1220. All the weird ones flying today. Actually, he's working the pattern around ADW and then departs.

1231: SUNNY 882 (TC-12B, 161306, VT-35 NAS Corpus Christi) w/ADW Twr for landing...118.4
1233: MARINE 378 (C-37B, 166378, VR-1 Andrews) w/ADW Twr for landing...118.4 (Displaying VV101)
1235: Customs aircraft (PC-12, N541PB) on Mode-S at 3000 feet with VFR squawk of 1200. No voice yet.
1245: FBI Cessna 206, N969JL (probably JENA 096) in the area at 4400 foot orbit.
1247: NAVY 7N514 (UC-12B, 161309) departs ADW w/Twr and then TRACON...118.4/118.95

Been tracking REACH 2580 (KC-135R, 62-3580, 77th ARS Seymour Johnson) since 1226 as it arrives after a long trip to Europe. This is an ex-756th ARS tanker that came from SJ on loan I guess and then was returned. It left for Europe about nine days ago with this same callsign, operated as REACH 656 and REACH 404 on missions while there and is finally coming home. At 1258, I still have a strong signal on him since he was flying at FL 400 and is just beginning a slight descent at 1259.
1303: He's passing through FL 320 and still tracking (Mode3 is 6043)
1306: REACH 2580 calls LIGHTHOUSE Control with arrival message...30 minutes out, Code 2 with five writeups, needs trans/airstairs/parking/Customs and AG...311.0
1309: REACH 2580 currently at FL 280 and still tracking....spoke too soon...just faded from Mode-S tracking.

In addition to all this different "stuff," there are all the usual transports flying through the area but I've ignored them in favor of some of the other things flying.

1311: BOXER 21 [displays 41] (C-40C, 02-0201, 201st AS Andrews) in pattern work at ADW...118.4 (First logged at 1303)
There has also been a TITUS 26 that should be a C-130T from VR-53 working the Andrews pattern but he's not showing a Mode-S signal which is unusual since I always see those guys when they fly.
BOXER 99 (C-38A, 94-1569) is also working around Andrews.
02-0201 displays callsign as "BOXER41" and 94-1569 displays it as "BOXR99"

1315: The Warren Grove Range freq 283.1 is active but activity is very weak from here. (PA-ANG A-10s...heard UGLY callsign mentioned)
1333: Hearing a FLYER callsign now...283.1

Non-Mil: A Canadian Cessna 560 belonging to Pratt and Whitney Canada through the area (C-GPAW)
Even showed a logo that I had made at some point in the past and forgot about so he's been here before this trip.
Can't forget the Harrah's "whale" plane (F2TH, N89CE) into the area at FL330 at 1314 and starting a descent (to ACY?)

Have also had a couple of those big, lumbering Russian Antonov 124s from Volga-Dnepr Airlines through the area today:
1057: VDA 4707, AN-124, RA-82046 from Burgas, Bulgaria (LBBG -Летище Бургас) to Charleston (KCHS) at FL 280
1325: VDA 4712, AN-124, RA-82044 from Charleston (KCHS) to Bangor (KBGR) at FL 290

1344: SPAR 29 (C-37A, 01-0029, 310th AS MacDill) off from ADW...118.95 (Using partial ADS-B...coordinates tracking, no course or speed but he's on about a 220 degree heading following his radar track)
1344: CRAB 54 (C-130J, 97-1354, 135th AS MD-ANG MTN) w/TRACON heading for Linden...118.95 (Departed MTN about 10 minutes ago)
1349: Our old friend HOOK 40 (C-40B, 02-0042, 76th AS Ramstein AB) in the area again.

1348: Another JENA FBI flight (missed suffix) w/TRACON...125.65 (Cessna 206, N208EB) (settles in at 7500 feet)
1350: And yet another JENA flight, a Bell 407 (N407TP) on the Mode-S log just came up. (orbits at 4400 feet)

1400: With Andrews Tower on 118.4 are NAVY 691 (C-20D, 163691, VR-1) and MARINE 035 (UC-35D, 166767, VMR-2)
1402: CRAB 55 (C-130J, 98-1355, 135th AS MD-ANG) flying a VFR mission in the MTN area (squawk 1200).
1401: PAT 1863 (C-37A, 02-1863, OSACOM) departs Andrews (I think) and is climbing (Partial ADS-B with just coordinates tracking on the radar scope, heading southeast)
1403: TROUT 98 back in the area.

Early 1400 hour I believe the Andrews DC-ANG F-16s are just returning home. (WILD 1-4) WILD 4 with trapped fuel issue. (139.9 to SOF) Interflight 139.15 and 143.15 active so there's another flight in addition to WILD. But gotta run.

ADS-B tracking me out of this chair, departing the room and out the door. Later.
 
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Mark/Travis/Dave and anyone else with a Mode-S receiver in this area:

For the past few days I've been seeing an Omni International DC-10 (N603AX) showing up on the ADS-B display giving the "on the ground" indicator. The signal seems to stay up for an hour or two. I'm assuming two things - (1) it's on the ground at BWI and, (2) they're working on the Mode-S transponder aboard the aircraft. I could be wrong on both counts. The constant position being displayed is 39.661N/-76.000W. That never changes but those coordinates place him up in the northeast corner of Maryland and not at BWI. Is anyone else seeing this signal (doubtful if he's really at BWI but possible if he's not?)
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A couple of minutes before noon and I'm logging three of those unknown hex codes currently flying at low altitudes -- AE138E/AE1393/AE1395. Anyone?

Negative on those AE13** up this way.Must be down South.

I had N603AX logged late last night dropping down 35k to 28k as REACH 838.
0438z to 0503z. Seems a regular thru this area every few days.

1225 Network showing GOTOFMS AE041C E6B #164410 headed Southeast out of Dallas/FT Worth area.
Last time I had logged here was Dec 22nd.. Found a new home at NAS Fort Worth?

Mark
 
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Hello gentlemen,

Been busy with holidays, a respitory infection, and trying to work so much
lately that I haven't been listening to radios much. If I haven't said so yet, I just would like to say
Happy New Year to you all and thanks for letting me be a part of this great list. You all are
a tremendous resource and I appreciate your expertise!

Now to a couple logs from today.....

Heard at 1500z this morning on my Sony ICF-SC1PC w/rubber duck ASCOT 1234 passing overhead
working ZBW on 135.700 heading direct CYQB (Quebec). I was busy and only heard him once.
Not sure where he was going or where he came from. His was at FL260.

Just now at 1742z, I had a REACH 7029 working Brunswick METRO on 264.000 getting the weather for
Dover at 1930z.

Also just had PACK 22 on 128.750 working ZBW dropping down to Otis CG Base in Falmouth, MA
for some pattern work and then he will RTB to Pease.

That's it for now, will be listening for a little while.
 

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Guys,

For those of you that can hear the PAX ares:

1318- Scary flt (3 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG ADW)-in PAX areas working CAS training (143.6) w/GBU-38s w/one of the Scarys working as FAC. Working w/callsign Iron Cross on the ground. Also working with a Shark 68 (sounds like a helo) who is passing targetting data and observing attacks.
 

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1320 local- Multiple flights working various targets at Warren Grove Range (NJ) on 283.1 ....Some of the players are REAPER, FLYER & UGLY

Also, some one above had the Warren Grove Range listed as in PA. Its actually in NJ unless they meant Willow Grove.

Pete
 
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