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All of you New Englanders are doing a bang up job with your postings.

Watching the TV coverage & looking at the impressive group of VIPs up there---boy, the local LE guys must be going crazy.

Yes they are, numerous active freqs, Boston PD, MA State police, Secret Service, State Department Etc Etc etc. There is also a Caribbean Festival going on, an Italian Festival, A Red Sox game tonight, A Funeral for a Weymouth, MA PD Officer killed in the line of Duty, In a way it's a good thing that Tropical Storm Danny is keeping the CAP from flying. Quite a busy morning on the airwaves.
 

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Senator Kennedys body is enroute to Hanscom AFB at this time. From there, it will be flown to Washington DC. (per news media report)

I dont know what type of plane will be used. I believe that family members will be accompanying the body.

Peter Sz 140PM EDT
 

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Wheels up as of 142PM - I think that was AF1 leaving Logan. Peter Sz at 143PM
 

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Senator Kennedys body is enroute to Hanscom AFB at this time. From there, it will be flown to Washington DC. (per news media report)

I dont know what type of plane will be used. I believe that family members will be accompanying the body.

Peter Sz 140PM EDT

They probably transported him in one of the C-17s.
 

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Two aircraft depart the Boston area...
AF 1 (C-20C, 85-0050, 99th AS Andrews)
AF 2 (C-32A, 99-0004, 1st AS Andrews)
That's what the aircraft are displaying for callsigns in Mode-S but I have no way to tell if that's what is being used on the radio (slightly out of range for me).
 
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Sam 5524 just took off from Hanscom at 213PM

118.5 >>> 124.4 >> 133.0

I dont think the Senators body has arrived at Hanscom quite yet though
 

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1434 AF-2 showing on screen C-32A 99-0004 inbound Andrews.
1447 C-37A 99-0402 southbound thru Philly area headed to Andrews.
showing 0000 on box (AE0406) SAM 5524
1502 C-20 86-0201 on screen at FL 22k.

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JetSpeed 1897 just left Hanscom - I have not heard any other SAM flights leave Hanscom since I last posted - there was only 2 other departures - Lear 1 Romeo, and one other JetSpeed - I suspect that the mourners are being fed at Hanscom before they leave for DC - 242PM
 

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SAM5567 118.75, ..5.7 for 10 direct SEY [86-0201 C-20B 89AW c/s S5075 on the screen]

1430
on the screen 86-0403 C-20D 89AW c/s S60403, not heard on radio.

Just got back in after 2 or 3 hours, will check the Mode-S log to see where these guys have been and for any others.

1445
three more on the screen, not heard on radio yet.
85-0050 C-20C 89AW c/s S50030 lost it at 3200ft, so indicates a landing nearby, probably Otis, not MVY which i would have tracked lower.
97-1944 C-37A c/s PAT44 with full ADS-B showing a track that looks like a BOS are departure to the SW, FL300 climbing thru FL324
05-4613 C-40C no c/s FL207 climbing FL245.

Been looking at my logs, it seems all 3 of the C-20s have been back in and out of MVY and that Obama is back here, so if and when the CAP restarts it should be here. Here are the timings/displayed c/s.
85-0050 in MVY as AF1 at 1356, out as S50050 at 1441
86-0201 in MVY no c/s at 1352, out as S5075 at 1425
86-0403 in MVY as S60403 at 1350, out same c/s at 1431
all c/s are as on the screen, not heard on radio

1455
more coming, from the screen.
Avlon12 05-4613 C-40C c/s now displaying
Avlon54 05-0932 C-40C at FL284
Boxer45 02-0202 C-40C at FL245
My guess is the last one will be Senator Kennedy`s body and family headed headed to Andrews, most likely PAT44 is associated. Alan should be able to track the C-37 down to close to landing, the C-40 is about 5 mins behind

1518
S50050 128.75, ...50050 passing 8 for 10, heading 180....[think this guy went over to Otis for a little while after leaving MVY, now departed and heading South]
 
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SAM5567 118.75, ..5.7 for 10 direct SEY [86-0201 C-20B 89AW c/s S5075 on the screen]

1430
on the screen 86-0403 C-20D 89AW c/s S60403, not heard on radio.

Just got back in after 2 or 3 hours, will check the Mode-S log to see where these guys have been and for any others.

1445
three more on the screen, not heard on radio yet.
85-0050 C-20C 89AW c/s S50030 lost it at 3200ft, so indicates a landing nearby, probably Otis, not MVY which i would have tracked lower.
97-1944 C-37A c/s PAT44 with full ADS-B showing a track that looks like a BOS are departure to the SW, FL300 climbing thru FL324
05-4613 C-40C no c/s FL207 climbing FL245.

1455
more coming, from the screen.
Avlon12 05-4613 C-40C c/s now displaying
Avlon54 05-0932 C-40C at FL284
Boxer45 02-0202 C-40C at FL245
My guess is the last one will be Senator Kennedy`s body and family headed headed to Andrews, most likely PAT44 is associated. Alan should be able to track the C-37 down to close to landing, the C-40 is about 5 mins behind

Just walked in the door myself Adrian and am trying to determine what's here and what's on the way. Your recap sure helps in that regard. Those AVALON, BOXER (and I would guess a SPAR or two) might just be part of hauling the gaggle of politicians to this area. I think the important one will be determining which aircraft is bringing Kennedy and clan to Andrews. Of course, I could probably determine some of this if I turned on a TV and watched the coverage but that would take away the sport of trying to do it with radios/Mode-S.

Alan

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1514: SAM 5524 (C-37A, 99-0402, 99th AS Andrews) w/ADW Twr for landing runway 1L ...118.4
I was hoping they'd use runway 19 today since I get much better coverage on the tower freq. The aircraft are 20 miles closer to me when they use 19 and begin their final approach - and at 2000-2500 feet altitude that makes a huge difference. Alas...it's runway 1 today.
1515: JETSPEED 57 w/ADW Twr for landing runway 1L...118.4 (JETSPEED aircraft mentioned above somewhere)
If that Jetspeed aircraft is on Mode-S, I sure can't find it. Nothing is at the correct altitude for approach that could be it.
1524: SAM 5567 (C-20B, 86-0201, 99th AS Andrews) w/ADW Tower for landing runway 1L...118.4
I can see about five more military transports on the way to Andrews that should be reporting soon. The one displaying PAT44 is really ARMY 1944 but we'll get to him when he checks in w/Andrews. I'm hearing all these aircraft with Potomac TRACON also but will not clutter the log with the chatter from them. Mark's log below has some of the waypoint check-ins they're doing.
1537: ARMY 1944 (C37A, 97-1944, OSACOM) w/ADW Twr on a right base for runway 1L...cleared to land 1L...118.4
1542: SPAR 12 (C-40C, 05-4613, 73rd AS Scott) w/ADW Tower on a right base for landing runway 1L...reports gear down at 1545...118.4 (Displaying AVALON 12)
1545: SPAR 13 (C-40C, 05-0932, 73rd AS Scott) w/ADW Tower on a right base for landing runway 1L...standby the gear...reports gear down for 1L at 1548...118.4 (Displaying AVALON 54)
1548: SAM 5574 (C-37B, 06-0500, 99th AS Andrews) w/ADW Tower for landing runway 1L...118.4
1550: SPAR 12 must have had a missed approach since he went around again and is following the SAM 5574 in at this time...reports gear down...118.4
1551: BOXER 1 (C-40C, 02-0202, 201st AS Andrews) w/ADW Tower for landing runway 1L...118.4 (Displaying BOXER 45)
That appears to be the end of the string of VIP aircraft returning from the Boston area. Oops..no it isn't - there are more on the way.

1604: NAVY JU481 (C-9B, 159120, VR-56) w/ADW Tower for landing runway 1L...118.4 (Most of the time IDing just as NAVY 481 and displaying VVJU052)
I've been tracking DAWG 01 (C-130H, 80-0326, 158th AS GA-ANG Savannah) that I thought was coming to Andrews too but he's overflying apparently at FL 190 (from which he hasn't budged). The 01 suffix indicates he may just have the unit commander on board which is why I thought it was an Andrews arrival.
1617: SAM 50050 (C-20C, 85-0050, 99th AS Andrews) w/ADW Tower for landing runway 1L...standby for gear...118.4
1628: DELTA 9831 (MD-88, N910DE Delta Airlines) w/ADW Twr on the downwind for runway 1L...118.4 (Kennedy family on board as reported elsewhere. Found this one by altitude as he reported in w/TRACON))
1631: DELTA 9831 reports gear down...118.4
1635: SAM 5557 (C-32A, 98-0002, 1st AS Andrews) w/ADW Tower for landing runway 1L...standby gear...118.4
1639: SPAR 13 (C-40C, 05-0932, 73rd AS Scott) departs Andrews and is climbing out w/TRACON...118.95
1647: REACH 236T (C-17A, 04-4134, 6th AS McGuire) to ADW Tower 8 miles out for right base to runway 1L...118.4
1647: NAVY 481 (C-9B, 159120, VR-56) w/ADW Tower departing and thanks him for his work today...118.4
Looks like these VIP flights are dropping off their pax and then departing quickly.
1648: REACH 236T reports gear down...118.4
1650: NAVY 481 w/TRACON for climbout...then handed off to ZDC 133.55...125.65
1654: REACH 215 (C-17A, 01-0188, 437th AW Charleston) passing overhead at FL 360.

Are the arrivals done now? Hope so since it's getting close to the cutoff time (2 hours from the start) to edit this message. I would guess all those arrivals at Andrews were also heard departing the Boston area - whether at Otis, Hanscom, Logan or Martha's Vineyard. If nothing else, it confirms all the tail numbers and registrations of the aircraft used.

And that's the end of this log as we get to the RadioReference enforced two hour cutoff time.
 
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Just walked in the door myself Adrian and am trying to determine what's here and what's on the way. Your recap sure helps in that regard. Those AVALON, BOXER (and I would guess a SPAR or two) might just be part of hauling the gaggle the politicians to this area. I think the important one will be determining which aircraft is bringing Kennedy and clan to Andrews.

Alan

Logged a lot of those Boxers,C-40's etc northbound this am.
Mobilized every tail they could get hold of it seems.
1510 SPAR 13 and 12 are on ZDC Sea Isle 133.125
1515 BOXER 01 up on Sea Isle 133.125
1517 ARMY 1944 on Sea Isle low 127.700
1527 watching PAT 44 cutting across Southern Delaware.Guess like Alan said
they are going southeast of Andrews and landing to the North.
1525 AVALON 12 showing prob SPAR 12 #05-0732 at 16k.
1530 SPAR 13 showing #05-0932 at 16k also as AVALON54
1532 BOXER 01 showing as C-40C #02-0202 and showing BOXER 45.
1535 ARMY 1944 has Andrews in sight looking for runway 19 left. 128.350
1542 A SAM 50050 on Sea Isle 132.125...
1550 SAM 50050 Sea Isle 127.700 showing as C-20 #85-0050
1604 SAM 5557 Sea Isle 132.125 down to 30k.
1610 SAM 5557 on 127.700 shows as C-32A #98-0002 showing S5557
1621 C-17 #04-4134 McGuire just popped up at FL 28k..Guess this is the one.Was REACH 231T the other day
now showing as REACH 236T.
1631 REACH 236T C-17 level at 22k,can't find on radio yet,must be coming different route than the rest.
1636 REACH 236T on ADW CP 378.100 inbound,4 vehicles,36 pax. 10 minutes out.
Guess that wraps it up..

Mark
 
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Listening to 124.4 - the only other departures that I have heard from Hanscom AFB were - 918 Tango at 305PM followed by Citation 444E & 9 Alpha

Maybe I should have been listening on the military side???

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The USAF A/ C carrying Kennedy has just departed Hanscom at 15:27. it had a tail number ending in 32. The family will be departing on a Delta Airways A/C
 

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And SAM 5557 just came up on 124.40 and was handed off to 118.25 - 329PM
 

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1515: JETSPEED 57 w/ADW Twr for landing runway 1L...118.4 (JETSPEED aircraft mentioned above somewhere)
If that Jetspeed aircraft is on Mode-S, I sure can't find it. Nothing is at the correct altitude for approach that could be it.

Alan, Jetspeed is the callsign of Executive Jet Management. They are a division of ExecJet/NetJets. They manage and organise flights on aircraft they dont own [Execjet are the ones they own and sell shares in, Quarter Shares typically, hence the N***QS registrations]. I guess when you have the facitilies and network to manage over 900 or so of you`re own a/c, its easy to use those assets to manage a/c for other owners.
Most a/c in the program fly with fixed callsigns, that usually relate to part of their reg.
Anyway here is that flight you referred to.
FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > American Air Services, Inc. D/B/A Executive Jet Management #57
be looking on your log for a Gulfstream4 with N57*** or similar, or 57 somewhere in there.

Biz-jets are my thing, when the military traffic slows down again here.
 
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