SDR# TETRA Demodulator Trunk Tracking Demonstration

FR33MAN

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Hello, I am trying to customize the reception of SDS data, the system is X080 used in Spain, France and Portugal. It is not currently working, can you help me?



# Define a offset to start converting to text
# For unknown SDS UDT-4 protocols (e.g.User_Defined_xxx or Reserved_xxx)
#
# DATA:'000010111100-001101100001110001010001-111111101110100111001001-01010'
# MCC;MNC;procotolID;bin_parameters
#
214;xx;User_Defined_111;e0,s12,r24,r24,r5



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hamradionl

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# DATA:'000010111100-001101100001110001010001-111111101110100111001001-01010'

214;xx;User_Defined_111;e0,s12,r24,r24,r5
Time stamp?

6QþéÉ
0B0C361C51FEE9C90A
111254288125423320110
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FR33MAN

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Hello, I have ever had this error, do you know the reason?
 

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thewraith2008

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Reason:
A lookup (to retrieve a priority value for a GSSI) is using invalid values, MNI: 0 - Group: 0 (MNI = MCC + MNC)
Real values are expected and is why any error is given.

As the popup states: "This is a unexpected error".
Why these zero values occur maybe a result of a threading issue.

How often do you see this error?
This will probably remain as a bug as I don't spend anytime on this code anymore.

As for the other post regarding the binary to string feature, this would be the line to use.
Code:
This:
214;xx;User_Defined_111;e0,s12,r24,r24,r5 

To this:
214;xx;User_Defined_111;e0,s12,r0

This will result in the following bits been used to create a text string.
# DATA:'000010111100-001101100001110001010001-111111101110100111001001-01010'
Should be noted that this remainder string is not multiples of 8 bits (4 bits too many/short).
This binary string also does not seem to produce anything meaningful.
00110110 = 54 '6'
00011100 = 28 '?'
01010001 = 81 'Q'
11111110 = 254 '?'
11101001 = 233 '?'
11001001 = 201 '?'
01010

I'm not sure if you expect the 24, 24, 5 bits to be converted to a number, this is not what occurs here. (probably not a bad idea though)
This code will only read 8 bit segments for the remainder binary string and see if it is a ASCII character [DEC value between 32-126].



Latest version (v1.7.1.0) can be found here: Release post
 

hamradionl

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Spain, France and Portugal
Maybe language use differ unicode character? (Latin south europe or specific machine language).
If it is a bus or railway company you monitor, these messages shown on those big electronic billboards. SDS messages contain a time stamp arrival to specific stop or arrival to end station to calculate if train or bus will arrive on exact time. People read on billboard "bus arrive in 10 minutes" "train arrive in 5 minutes" counting back to zero minutes.
BTW: there is a specific Linux SDS decoder floating around in community show more data to work with.
 

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Hello, I've installed the tetra demodulator plugin v1.7.1.0 in my sdrsharp latest version, but when I start it appear this error message. How I can resolve? I've a windows 10 machine 64 bit with Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6.2, Microsoft .NET Framework 4.7.2, Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 Redistributable, Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 Redistributable installed
I'm getting the same exception report at SDR# 1800 startup. Did you ever get a solution?
 

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I'm getting the same exception report at SDR# 1800 startup. Did you ever get a solution?
Yes, to use SDR# version v1716 from the source here
Look for 'last unskinned SDR# build' on that page at top. (under the line "Pre-requisites: .NET 5 Desktop x86 Runtime")
 

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Hi all, very new to using SDR, but decided to pick it up for fun and to monitor the TTC system. Continually getting this error when I turn on the demodulator in SDR#. Couldn't find any settings related to it. Anyone know what might be causing it?

Apologies if I've missed a step along the way or didn't install something obvious as well, but I cant' seem to figure it out.

Tetra demod v1.7.1.0
SDR# v1.0.0.1811

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Code:
CurrTimeSlot, 1
MAC_PDU_Type, 0
Fill_bit, 0
Position_of_grant, 0
Encryption_mode, 0
Random_access_flag, 0
Length_indication, 21
Address_type, 1
SSI, 313127
Capacity_Allocation, 0
Granting_delay, 1
MacPduRealSize, 168
PduStartOffset, 0
LLC_Pdu_Type, 1
MLE_Protocol_Discriminator, 2
CMCE_PDU_Type, 15
Calling_party_type_identifier, 1
Calling_party_address_SSI, 5398
Short_data_type_identifier, 3
User_Defined_Data4_Length_Indicator, 64
User_Defined_Data4, 0
Protocol_identifier, 2
Text_coding_scheme, 16
CRC_check: 0

BURST[64]: 0000001000010000000000000001000000110001011111000000001100100010
 

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I scrolled back in this thread and saw you recommend an older version of SDR#. I'll give that a shot and see if it fixes things.
 

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@Enjoi19

Using an earlier version of SDR# (i.e. 1716) won't fix this error. (but is still recommended to use with plug-in)
The error is saying a you received a SDS PDU 'Simple_text_msg' and it is trying to use an unsupported text encoding a scheme, 'ibm850'.
There is nothing you can do to stop the error until I make a change. I will need to investigate this when I get some time.

What is the original filename for the generated error file, this is also needed so I can test with the file to replicate the error.



Latest version (v1.7.1.0) can be found here: Release post
 

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File name was:

TETRA_error_CMCE[TMO-DMO]-SDS_2021-05-14_15-54-48.2648_burst

It is working now (really well, by the way) on SDR#1716.
 

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SSI:xxxxxx Call ID:nnnn Encrypt:Clear D_TX_Granted Transmission Granted_to_another_user
How to find/listen to whom?

Encrypted network with clear speech allowed in the network
 

NarKo

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Hello, I am trying to customize the reception of SDS data, the system is X080 used in Spain, France and Portugal. It is not currently working, can you help me?



# Define a offset to start converting to text
# For unknown SDS UDT-4 protocols (e.g.User_Defined_xxx or Reserved_xxx)
#
# DATA:'000010111100-001101100001110001010001-111111101110100111001001-01010'
# MCC;MNC;procotolID;bin_parameters
#
214;xx;User_Defined_111;e0,s12,r24,r24,r5



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Hello, I have the same problems as you with the sds, did you manage to solve it? I don't know what to do is driving me crazy.
Un saludo
 

FR33MAN

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Hello, I observe that I lose communications with the TTT, an example I am listening to a communication in slot 2 and they finish talking and within seconds they speak in slot 4 and it does not get on automatically, it is something strange, if I do not use the TTT if the slot is automatically passed.
How can I configure the TTT or Plugin to do it in the most efficient way.

Thank you.
 

FR33MAN

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[QUOTE = "NarKo, publicación: 3540595, miembro: 1412809"]
Hola, tengo los mismos problemas que tú con los sds, ¿lograste solucionarlo? No sé qué hacer me está volviendo loco.
Un saludo
[/CITA]


Hello there ; I have not been able to solve it, I am still the same with the TTT.
What if I can tell you to use Telive on linux and if it does everything, it positions the locations perfectly with the protocol it uses.

It is clear that I do not like Telive, it is better TTT and it would be great if it did, I hope the creator of the software will help me and help him with what he asks to implement it.

A greeting and thanks to all.
 

FR33MAN

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A question even if it is not directly related to TTT, but I would like to translate some plugins into Spanish, they can help me how to do it.

With putting the name that appears in the Plugin I am satisfied.


Thank you.
 

thewraith2008

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Hello, I think I fixed this problem for someone else sometime ago.
I should probably release the version I have that is a mix bag of fixes that I did for people here and there.
No timeline on releasing this as I have not been spending much time with SDR of late.



Latest version (v1.7.1.0) can be found here: Release post
 

FR33MAN

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Hello, I think I fixed this problem for someone else sometime ago.
I should probably release the version I have that is a mix bag of fixes that I did for people here and there.
No timeline on releasing this as I have not been spending much time with SDR of late.



Latest version (v1.7.1.0) can be found here: Release post

Hello, and thank you very much for your quick response.
Please if you are so kind, if I would like to have that improvement, since the network I use has a lot of activity and I lose most of the communications since it does not always go to slot 3 and 4.

If you don't want to publish it at the moment, you could pass it to me to test and I'll tell you if the bug has been fixed.

Thanking you for developing the TTT software for me is a nice invention, really.

Thanks and best regards.
 
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