Unication G-Series Voice Pager with Digital Trunked Scanner Feature

[eorange]

Put those functions into TRUNKING TG MONITOR, which is basically freescan with the ability to point at a preprogrammed trunking network.

Trunking Freescan is like TG search...for discovering TGs without having to program them.

PTGL is what you're asking for above...go to PTGL in PPS, add one or more knob positions to a PTGL slot, and you're done. To activate in the pager...go to Trunking Free Scan on the menu, then PTGL, pick your PTGL slot, and now you're scanning all knob positions you defined in the slot. This also enables side button hold and TG delay.

 

[CFP387]

Folks, this guy is on a roll. We need to hang out sometime!

For comparison and testing purposes today I'm running a G5, (2) APX8000's and (2) APX6000's. All are valid subscribers on multiple systems.

That's a great idea because I believe these units should operate just like the APX radios do. The technology should be available for the G5 to monitor at least two systems simultaneously.

Still getting a "P25T" when scanning on to a talkgroup where a received transmission is already taking place. In other words, the UID is not coming in as a late entry.

Agreed, and this shouldn't be happening because the unit is receiving the correct information. It's like it's just not reading it correctly.

I knocked the multi-site scan down to its lowest setting (1 sec) and I'm still missing traffic. It's taking an additional second to acquire the CC so when scanning multiple systems you will miss things. That is expected, but again when compared to my APX subscribers running Multi-System talkgroup or Intelligent Priority, I'm missing more with the G5.

And we should not be missing voice traffic on either system more than a second. This is an issue that must be fixed or it will hardly ever activate on QCII tones, if or when that function is enabled during PTGL scan.

Received transmisions still interrupt menu selections.

Allow alpha tagging of RFSS/Site so it displays on the main screen.

I will admit that this is something that should have been fixed several firmwares ago.

There is an import function on the Group and Group Call ID setting but that only allows you to import a .csv from RadioReference. I want to import my own crap, not theirs.

No wonder that function didn't work for me. I was trying to import my on file too.

I've reported numerous issues literally hours after they released their new firmware which I could have easily found for them prior to release. I'm glad they are listening. This beta is good, but are you happy with good?

Honestly I have reported very quickly too. Some things that you and I have stated here should have been fixed long before now and they are simple issues that could really improve the functionality of the unit for the end user. I'm not happy with "good" and I'm going to continue to request changes and point out problems until they get resolved.

 

[mharris]

Huge issue mentioned by APX8000:
Received transmisions still interrupt menu selections.

 

[Webodisk]

Jordan is aware of the delay in UID it is do to the adavantage full log processing for testing

 

[Hop763]

Installed and testing working good so far.

 

[kruser]

Installed and testing working good so far.

Yep and I love the TG hold feature but I do agree the TG number or name of the TG being held should remain on the display.

 

[APX8000]

Several instances when scanning multiple systems where I'm getting white noise (similar to when the volume is turned down low and and transmission comes through) through the speaker which does not go away after a talkgroup displays real quick. The white noise will continue even when scanning those systems and a received transmission occurs and it goes back to scanninguntil I change off the PTGL through a knob turn. You then have to go back into the menu and reselect the PTGL scan option.

As I stated above, I did more testing of the Trunking Free Scan feature which allows you to scan multiple sites:

Using three sites on same system (Coral Springs, Fort Lauderdale and Plantation sites 7, 8 and 9), results in the white noise through the speaker until switching off a knob position is replicated numerous times. I even had it shut off and restart on me.

So I knocked it down to two sites on another system, Palm Beach County and Boca Raton sites 7 and 8). Still getting the same issues. And this is with the setting at 1 second.

It’s almost like once it acquires the CC, if a transmission is already in progress, it lags behind and then the speaker tries to push through the audio that is no longer there and the dreaded white noise stays. It will still pass traffic but then goes back to the white noise. I also tried using the scan delay to hold the talk group longer to no avail.

This feature is not up to par for public safety use, and not even for hobbyist use in my opinion. How did this even get out of alpha ?

Trunking TG Scan:

In addition to the screen blanking out the talkgroup and UID until a received transmission when holding, the speaker icon shows an X through it until a transmission is received. UIDs are definitely delayed when TG hold is enabled.

 

[wmlovell]

I'm not experiencing any white noise with mine in PTGL and scanning 3 systems (1 system with 3 sites) and buffering off.

 

[eorange]

This feature is not up to par for public safety use, and not even for hobbyist use in my opinion. How did this even get out of alpha ?

I don't recall any mention of a white noise problem during the early alpha tests. This is the purpose of the expanded beta - more testers in more locations.

 

[kruser]

I'm also not experiencing any odd white noise issues like @APX8000 is reporting.
I setup my G5 with the same settings (different sites of course as I'm in Missouri) but I could not duplicate the problem.

 

[APX8000]

These are the settings that are causing the issue: Let me know what you guys have your settings as so I can see if the problem is unit specific.

 

[kruser]

These are the settings that are causing the issue: Let me know what you guys have your settings as so I can see if the problem is unit specific.

My G5 has the same settings as your screenshot shows with the only exception being that the top two delay timers are set for 3 seconds on mine.
I also tried to hear this problem with the G5 sitting in the amplified charging base but I still could not duplicate the problem you are hearing.

 

[sibbley]

These are my settings. No white noise, I'm scanning 5 systems total.

 

[APX8000]

Ok I seemed to have narrowed it down to Delay Time for Multi-Site at 1 second and Scan List - TGID Scan Delay Enabled at 1 second. I changed Multi-Site to 2 seconds and disabled TGID Scan Delay and its performing much better.

 

[eorange]

There was a problem in alpha when the TG delay was > the site stay time, causing missed traffic. That was fixed, but in @APX8000 's settings...they're the same value anyway. I wonder if there's more to it.

 

[wmlovell]

Only a couple settings different.. Not sure the Voice record is an issue.
Thought I read somewhere, maybe on FaceBook, that the site stay delay had to be longer than the others.

 

[RRR]

Ok, so when Harris "Patched" TG's go out, will it record those now? It won't as of current. Only if it has an actual TG

 

[Uni1]

Please take videos and upload log files for th issues you are seeing.

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[trido]

beta firmware scanning between two knob positions.can link upto 8 knob positions to scan.
Forgot in the video for TG HOLD and TG remove in PPS go to D7 General setting then check TG hold and remove .

 

[Anderegg]

Unication, please take note that your users have to remove the antenna from their radios to operate the menu...that is sad

Paul