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Unication G-Series Voice Pager with Digital Trunked Scanner Feature

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floridafuzz

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Hi Steve I would be interested in being a bata tester if its still possible. I have a G4 pager and love it. Never leave home without it! I've been asking about the scanner feature for awhile so happy to see its being worked on
I think if you go to this thread in the Unication forum:
G-Series Trunking Free Scan Beta Test II
There is a link that you can click on to sign up for the beta.
 

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Correct. Considered many customers need this feature, our engineering team worked hard to make it also happen on the other firmware.
We will add Hold/Unhold to the V1.30 in the next firmware update.

I just really wanted to compliment you gentlemen Steve. While I'm not a beta tester, the transparency and communication you all have displayed to those of us on these forums to keep us involved/informed, and embracing the secondary market we constitute, has been fantastic. Y'all have taken the feedback for desired features and run with them. Frankly all I really wanted was to be able to scan multiple sites on a single system and I would've been happy, but now we're going to get so much more.

As a end-user, radio nerd, and enthusiast...really awesome job guys.
 

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I just really wanted to compliment you gentlemen Steve. While I'm not a beta tester, the transparency and communication you all have displayed to those of us on these forums to keep us involved/informed, and embracing the secondary market we constitute, has been fantastic. Y'all have taken the feedback for desired features and run with them. Frankly all I really wanted was to be able to scan multiple sites on a single system and I would've been happy, but now we're going to get so much more.

As a end-user, radio nerd, and enthusiast...really awesome job guys.

Well said. I feel the exact same way about Unication. So much so that, despite just getting my G5, I will buy a G6 when they sell one as well.
 

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Hi Steve I would be interested in being a bata tester if its still possible. I have a G4 pager and love it. Never leave home without it! I've been asking about the scanner feature for awhile so happy to see its being worked on

Yes for this time everyone can join the Beta Test and enjoy the new features. Please refer to this post to learn more:G-Series Trunking Free Scan Beta Test II

Thanks,
Steve
 

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I just really wanted to compliment you gentlemen Steve. While I'm not a beta tester, the transparency and communication you all have displayed to those of us on these forums to keep us involved/informed, and embracing the secondary market we constitute, has been fantastic. Y'all have taken the feedback for desired features and run with them. Frankly all I really wanted was to be able to scan multiple sites on a single system and I would've been happy, but now we're going to get so much more.

As a end-user, radio nerd, and enthusiast...really awesome job guys.

It's so glad to hear your compliment! Thank you :D
 

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Does the new firmware fix the end of a recording being cutoff on playback? It will come over fine on the transmission, but will be missing about a second at the end of the recording. It doesn't do it with every message. Thanks
 

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Will it finally record Harris patched talkgroups? (The 65XXX series)

Many Fire / EMS agencies are dispatched with patched TG's.
 

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Here are personal thoughts on the Unication scanning upgrade currently in testing. My take is that there are two main market segments for improved scanning on a Unication pager:

  1. PROFESSIONAL USERS. First responders who are already served by the alerting capability of Unication pagers and want to scan and most importantly hold critical transmissions and lockout others.
  2. CITIZEN LISTENERS. Media and the majority of civilian scanner enthusiasts.

The most often mentioned need seems to be the ability to temporarily hold on a transmission when it is relevant, and to temporarily lock it out when it is annoying. These features, which are built into the beta, are sufficient to turn Unication pagers into practical scanners for most owners and prospects. Ideally, these features could be activated with a single click in the PPS software, rather than having to page through several programming steps as required in the beta. Also, the beta has eliminated the ability to place more than one conventional frequency in a single knob position for scanning.

Another wish is the ability to scan across systems and sites, from analog to trunking. The Unication beta goes far in this direction. But it required contortions in the already counter-intuitive PPS software and pager firmware that probably exceeds the programming skill of many buyers. Also, cross-system scanning presents a couple of practical limitations. First is the added time the receiver needs to check on dozens or hundreds of sites and frequencies; this often results in missed transmissions with any brand radio. Second is the need to use tiny pager keys to step through many levels of soft buttons to access options and follow radio traffic.

None of my comments are meant to detract from Unication’s remarkable achievement bringing to market a P25 receiver that actually works-- even on complex trunking and especially simulcast systems-- and sells for a fraction of the cost of P25 two-way radios.

You may have come to take this success for granted If you own a Unication pager. However, other manufacturers have been trying to produce a trunking scanner product with similar features for 20 years, with what politely can be called mixed results.

Others may have quite different perspectives on the Unication pager as scanner and I look forward to all comments. I come to this discussion having monitored public safety radios since the mid 1960s, first with news media, later helping start a fire department, and more recently as a volunteer and disaster commission chair with local agencies.
 

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the beta has eliminated the ability to place more than one conventional frequency in a single knob position for scanning. I have 4 conventional frequencies scanning as I type using the beta software
 

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Do you still have a copy of the bata software and database you can share? Even if its the old version id like to try it so I can get up to speed
 

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the beta has eliminated the ability to place more than one conventional frequency in a single knob position for scanning. I have 4 conventional frequencies scanning as I type using the beta software
Thanks for your note. Experience here is that PPS V0.3.17 Beta04 requires each conventional frequency to be entered in separate knob positions, and then another knob position used to scan across those single frequency knob positions. No provision at any stage of PPS to form a list of conventional frequencies that show up in D-5 Zone and Channel Setting/Receiving Table Setting. Result is squandering knob poitions that could have been used for other purposes.
 

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Thanks for your note. Experience here is that PPS V0.3.17 Beta04 requires each conventional frequency to be entered in separate knob positions, and then another knob position used to scan across those single frequency knob positions. No provision at any stage of PPS to form a list of conventional frequencies that show up in D-5 Zone and Channel Setting/Receiving Table Setting. Result is squandering knob poitions that could have been used for other purposes.

So from a database point of view you can no longer use a single column (knob position) to input up to 26 conventional frequencies. Now you must assign each conventional across a single row, using the 8 knob positions. Meaning the maximum number of conventional freqs that can be scanned is 7?
 

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You are correct has always been setup that way, I have setup knob positions with single conventional frequencies and made one big scan knob with 16 being the max you can scan, so virtually 2 zones
 

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So from a database point of view you can no longer use a single column (knob position) to input up to 26 conventional frequencies. Now you must assign each conventional across a single row, using the 8 knob positions. Meaning the maximum number of conventional freqs that can be scanned is 7?
I was wrong in how I described previously being able to directly enter more than one conventional frequency in a single knob position. While PPS will not accept in a single knob position multiple frequencies from the D-2 Conventional Frequency Setting/Conventional Frequency List, you can manually put a single desired conventional frequency in a single knob position in any of the 64 available zones. You might want to store these in unused zones from, say, Zone 50 and higher, and then chose ones you want in regularly used zone knob from the D-5 Zone and Channel Setting/Receiving Table Setting. It's a long trip.
 
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The most often mentioned need seems to be the ability to temporarily hold on a transmission when it is relevant, and to temporarily lock it out when it is annoying. These features, which are built into the beta, are sufficient to turn Unication pagers into practical scanners for most owners and prospects. Ideally, these features could be activated with a single click in the PPS software, rather than having to page through several programming steps as required in the beta.

The ability to hold and remove a talk group is available in D7 > Talk Group Hold and Remove Setting with a single click each as shown in the attached screenshot.
 

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Perhaps I missed it in the thread, or misunderstood how it has been described, but can you scan a trunked system and a conventional frequency in the same scan list? In particular, I'm looking to monitor several trunked talkgroups on one trunked system, while scanning a single conventional frequency. Thanks!
 
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