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Twice since I updated the PPS and firmware (to N), I've received the following message in PPS when trying to program a G5: "Programming Failed: Communication Chaos! The return packet can't be processed!"
And the pager says "Programmed Failed". Retrying the programming works the second time.
I never had this problem before (same laptop, cable, pager).
I had a similar issue where mine said programming failed, I waited a second and it then succeeded. It worked just fine after that and has ever since. I thought about trying it again, but since it is working, I did not want to mess with it.
 

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Twice since I updated the PPS and firmware (to N), I've received the following message in PPS when trying to program a G5: "Programming Failed: Communication Chaos! The return packet can't be processed!"
And the pager says "Programmed Failed". Retrying the programming works the second time.
I never had this problem before (same laptop, cable, pager).

Do you have a different cable to try?
 

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I had a similar issue where mine said programming failed, I waited a second and it then succeeded. It worked just fine after that and has ever since. I thought about trying it again, but since it is working, I did not want to mess with it.

Close the PPS and open it again I have had this error with other releases and that always resolved the issue.
 

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I RMA'ed my G5 a couple weeks ago due to another issue, the replacement I got is having that weird audio issue where it sounds like the speaker is blown out. It's happened to me twice, once right after doing the firmware upgrade, and then again after removing it from the amplified charger. Both times I was inside in air conditioning, so I don't think this is going to be a temperature/heat issue, it seems to just happen randomly.

I still love the unit, hopefully the users who are having the problem can find some commonality to help Unication pin down the issue.
 

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Its possible its a heating issue but not in the traditional sense of the entire unit over heating.
Had my G4 for im guessing 6 months and never had the issue till a few weeks ago after doing a firmware upgrade. I had it charging prior to the firmware upgrade. When doing a battery pull i noticed it was rather warm on the inside lower portion of the battery and the back of the unit towards the bottom was rather warm. However an inch above and it was not hot. Seemed to be a pretty localized spot that was hotter then anywhere else on the unit.
Im wondering now if a component inside the unit might be over heating and causing it to reduce power to the speaker.
 

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Unication *New* G4 And G5 Pagers/Somewhat Limited Scanner

This might be a better question emailed directly to Unication Dave, but I will try it here first. Are there currently plans to offer talkgroup lockout for the Unication G4/G5? For my purposes, having the ability to use the Monitor Mode On, with the ability to lockout talkgroups, would be a huge benefit.

What about encryption? I would love the ability to mute encrypted talkgroups. Could I get the encryption option and then enter any random encryption code? Would that mute the encrypted talkgroups? Unication Dave, how do we get the encryption option? Is it available currently?

What about a dedicated Unication Sub-forum? I know that I have asked before, but I think that the time is right. Unication Dave has even stated that it would be better for him. And, selfishly, what is better for him may be better for us as Unication owners/users.

I tried another bluetooth speaker. The Altec Lansing Mini Lifejacket is a great speaker, BUT it, too, beeps at the beginning of each and every radio transmission! I am still looking for a more suitable bluetooth speaker. Perhaps I will find a better one yet. http://www.alteclansing.com/en/al-products/mini-lifejacket-2/
 

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I tried another bluetooth speaker. The Altec Lansing Mini Lifejacket is a great speaker, BUT it, too, beeps at the beginning of each and every radio transmission! I am still looking for a more suitable bluetooth speaker. Perhaps I will find a better one yet. http://www.alteclansing.com/en/al-products/mini-lifejacket-2/
You may have seen my posts in the past. I have had little to no luck with BT receivers. I finally bought a base/charger and it is OK but has no audio headroom and it thumps at the start of every TG transmission. This is my pet peeve with the pager. Everything else is great.
 

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So I downloaded PPS and have been playing with the software. I've have trunking systems/talkgroups down. But, I'm having issues setting up analog conventional channels. I've entered 11 analog frequencies under Tab 2. I entered a new Zone under Tab 5. Now, I'm trying to put all 11 frequencies under Knob position 1 and add the individual PL's for each conventional frequency. If someone can PM me their file or put up a screenshot please do. I've watched the YouTube videos but it really only deals with one frequency with 2-tone. I'd like to scan all 11 channels, each having different PL's.
 

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The short answer is that you have to program each frequency into a single knob position. After you have done that, you can create a scan list in another knob position that scans those other single channel knob positions. I don't remember the limit off hand, but there's a fairly small limit, like 16 channels or less. I'm attaching a screenshot that might help.

So I downloaded PPS and have been playing with the software. I've have trunking systems/talkgroups down. But, I'm having issues setting up analog conventional channels. I've entered 11 analog frequencies under Tab 2. I entered a new Zone under Tab 5. Now, I'm trying to put all 11 frequencies under Knob position 1 and add the individual PL's for each conventional frequency. If someone can PM me their file or put up a screenshot please do. I've watched the YouTube videos but it really only deals with one frequency with 2-tone. I'd like to scan all 11 channels, each having different PL's.
 

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Thanks BenScan. One knob position scanning 16 other knob positions. Got it.


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Just posting for other's reference:

I just received my g5 Thursday. I actually sat in the parking lot of my dealer loading the file I had created in anticipation. I received an error, "Pager Param Error (#0x0201). Please use PPS to program again."

Reprogramming did not fix it. I called Unication and they determined the pager firmware was newer than the PPS. Updating the PPS and then re-programming fixed it.
 

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Anyone have info on the amp charger connections? There's a lot of stuff there. Is the DIN the same as a minitor? Can the usb output charge a phone? Horn connector? "Controller"?

I received NO documentation.
 

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If I may make a suggestion to Unication for the PPS-

While the copy/paste function is great to have in the knob position page, I'd also love to see it available on the frequency page and group ID pages too. The ability to re-order entries would really help to keep it organized.
 

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Anyone have info on the amp charger connections? There's a lot of stuff there. Is the DIN the same as a minitor? Can the usb output charge a phone? Horn connector? "Controller"?

I received NO documentation.
You can find the basics on the Unication website. What you will find is that most of it is useless to us. May all be great in a firehouse. For the life of me, I don't understand why programming was not incorporated into the base.
 
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OK for those having the audio issue I need your assistance... the next time your unit experiences this issue instead of pulling the battery try this. Hold down both side buttons and the top voice playback button at the same time once the screen goes off and the 3 lights come on release. This should power cycle your unit. i am trying to determine if the issue is hardware or software.
 

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OK for those having the audio issue I need your assistance... the next time your unit experiences this issue instead of pulling the battery try this. Hold down both side buttons and the top voice playback button at the same time once the screen goes off and the 3 lights come on release. This should power cycle your unit. i am trying to determine if the issue is hardware or software.

The most recent time it happened to me (my 3rd time only) i powered it off for about 5-10 minutes and power it back on and it worked fine. I did NOT perform a battery pull. Simply switched it off, waited, back on.
 
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