Unitrunker update status /requests

[SCPD]

since 3th unitrunker version , french people is asking for the "ignore sync bit" parameter in MPT1327 decoder.

Hi grosminet;
For the next release, I've added an "Ignore Sync" option. This option will be OFF by default. Ignoring sync bits is very CPU intensive when no MPT1327 signal is present. This will solve the immediate problem. I'd like to find a more CPU friendly solution.

 

[SCPD]

Here's a log snip with ignore-sync-bits turned on.

800004007800 ALH reserved
228139EEAAAA System 2281
800004007800 ALH reserved
228139EEAAAA System 2281
800004007800 ALH reserved
228139EEAAAA System 2281
800004007805 ALH reserved
228139EEAAAA System 2281
89140C706000 BCAST 2281 Maintenance TTL 6 seconds
228139EEAAAA System 2281
800004007800 ALH reserved
228139EEAAAA System 2281
800004007800 ALH reserved
228139EEAAAA System 2281
800004007800 ALH reserved
228139EEAAAA System 2281
800004007805 ALH reserved
228139EEAAAA System 2281
89140C706000 BCAST 2281 Maintenance TTL 6 seconds
2007-03-24 20:31:23 19 of 19 (100%)

-rick

 

[robbinsj2]

I've got a couple requests:

1) Make it so that the Esc key functionality is not affected by Caps Lock being on.
2) Enable Shift-Tab to go backwards.

Thanks,

Jim

 

[SCPD]

Hi Jim;

1) Make it so that the Esc key functionality is not affected by Caps Lock being on.

I've never noticed that before so I had to check it out. Caps Lock does not effect the Escape key.

2) Enable Shift-Tab to go backwards.

It does ... has for quite some time.

-rick

 

[robbinsj2]

I don't know what "quite some time" is; on Windows 95 and Beta 9 I have problems with both. If Caps Lock is on then Esc doesn't do a thing; Shift+Tab (with and without Caps Lock) does the same thing as Tab alone.

I'll try Beta 10 tonight.

Jim

 

[SCPD]

I don't know what "quite some time" is;

Since any release made after June of 2005.

on Windows 95 and Beta 9 I have problems with both. If Caps Lock is on then Esc doesn't do a thing; Shift+Tab (with and without Caps Lock) does the same thing as Tab alone.

I don't get that behavior here on XP and 2K. I'll check 95 and 98 but, really, these should behave the same.

 

[inigo88]

Hey Rick, I just started using Unitrunker 10 on my new computer running Windows XP, and I'm very happy with it (especially now that I can track radio affiliations!).

I have a usability question though - Is there a configuration file I can change somewhere to make the default color for Groups and Users White instead of Black (which doesn't work because of the black background)? I'm big on figuring out and labelling radio IDs so I can track their talkgroup usage in the system via affiliations, and I love the fact that new talkgroups and users are GREEN... However when using the Find command to label new groups and users, it would be a lot easier if I could just type the label and then [Shift]+[Tab] back up to save it, rather than having to scroll through the colors and select white each time.

Any trick to this I'm missing? Or could this be included in a future version?

EDIT: I realized I can switch it to white with just the w key, rather than a lot of scrolling, so the issue is mostly resolved for me.

Thanks a lot for the outstanding program!

-Inigo

 

[grosminet]

thanks for "ignore sync bit" option . What will be the future release with this include ? 11th or 12th release

Thanks

 

[SCPD]

Inigo88 - you can set the default color for newly discovered talkgroups. [F]ind -> ystem to pull up the current system. There's a menu option there to edit the group template & another menu option to edit the user / radio id template. Each time a new group or radio is added, it will be a clone of the template. That includes text label, priority, and color.

When editing the color for an item ... typing the first letter will get that color. In the case of two colors with the same first letter (like black and blue) ... type the letter a second time to get the other color.

grosminet - the next release (version 11 I think) will have this. I expect a release this weekend.

 

[troymail]

Inigo88 - you can set the default color for newly discovered talkgroups. [F]ind -> ystem to pull up the current system. There's a menu option there to edit the group template & another menu option to edit the user / radio id template. Each time a new group or radio is added, it will be a clone of the template. That includes text label, priority, and color.

When editing the color for an item ... typing the first letter will get that color. In the case of two colors with the same first letter (like black and blue) ... type the letter a second time to get the other color.

grosminet - the next release (version 11 I think) will have this. I expect a release this weekend.

Rick - any chance getting the old Trunker feature where new users/radios are automatically labelled with the talkGroup they appear on? Even better, add a feature that lets the user select (a) label with the FIRST TG the radio is seen on and/or (b) label with the LAST TG the radio is seen on...

 

[SCPD]

Rick - any chance getting the old Trunker feature where new users/radios are automatically labelled with the talkGroup they appear on? Even better, add a feature that lets the user select (a) label with the FIRST TG the radio is seen on and/or (b) label with the LAST TG the radio is seen on...

You can always see the last used talkgroup when viewing the list of radio ids. I could add a macro to the template text for including the first seen talkgroup id as the radio id's initial label.

 

[SkipSanders]

The Unitrunker download seems to be 'gone', even the site is non-responsive.

Is it only 'up' when there's a new beta being distributed?

 

[SCPD]

It's temporarily being re-shuffled.

 

[ScannerDude244]

Hey rfmobile the link you gave to download isn't working? anyone have link to download it?

 

[ScannerDude244]

It's temporarily being re-shuffled.

ahh that's why! btw sorry for the double post should had read the post!

 

[SCPD]

I don't know what "quite some time" is; on Windows 95 and Beta 9 I have problems with both. If Caps Lock is on then Esc doesn't do a thing; Shift+Tab (with and without Caps Lock) does the same thing as Tab alone.

Jim ... I was able to reproduce these on Windows 98 over the weekend. Completely unexpected but your observeration was dead on. I have no idea why Windows 9X/ME would behave differently here ... I'll have to do a little digging to see what's up with that.

 

[robbinsj2]

Thanks, I was afraid there was something wrong with my particular machine. I'm looking forward to trying the next beta version (whether or not the fix for this makes it in time).

Jim

 

[luke-1]

Thanks, I was afraid there was something wrong with my particular machine. I'm looking forward to trying the next beta version (whether or not the fix for this makes it in time).

Jim

When will it be up for downloading again?

 

[inigo88]

Hey Rick, I followed your procedure and changed the default color for new Groups and Users to display, and saved the new settings, but they haven't taken effect. I've tried it several times, and tried restarting the program, all with no success. It's not a huge problem now that I'm aware of the fact that I can select the color with one keystroke, but would still be helpful if I could get it to work.

Also I had another usability question I was hoping to pose to you for a future release:

The Motorola Smartzone TRS I monitor has about 2000 user IDs stored and is climbing (as they add users to the fairly new system). When identifying a new user ID, it is extremely helpful to be able to compare chronologically adjacent user ID numbers to what I've just found. For instance, the radio shop set it up so that on a Fire Engine for a particular department, the first hexidecimal numbered radio ID is the mobile radio, and the next 2 or 3 higher hexidecimal numbers are the radio IDs for the portables in that engine.

My problem arises in trying to view adjacent User IDs for hexidecimal IDs starting with D, E or F. I have to go to [V]iew -> sers. Then I have to hold the down arrow key for like two minutes as I scroll through 2000 or so User IDs. If I go to [F]ind -> sers, the bottom half of the screen automatically changes to the Users List while I'm able to select the current User ID on any one of the freqs on the top half of the screen, but it doesn't really solve the problem of long scrolling time (because it stays at the top of the list no matter what). I have two ideas I wanted to throw at you to see how do-able they would be.

Option # 1: (and probably the easiest) would be in either [V]iew -> sers mode, or [F]ind -> sers and then [TAB] to where there's a horizontal green bar across the screen so you can scroll through the users list (in both cases), would you be able to make it so that typing the first number/letter of the hexidecimal User ID would skip the User List TO the section of IDs starting with that number/letter? It could work the same in decimal mode with just the number.

Option #2: In [F]ind -> ser mode, when manually entering the User ID in the "By Address" field, could the Users List automatically scroll to narrow down the location of that specific User ID as it was typed in? For instance, typing the first character would cause the User List to start with the first ID starting with that character, then with the second it would show the first ID starting with the two entered characters... etc.

For example, if I were to manually type in User ID "32DC", as I typed 3 the User List would scroll to the first ID in my list beginning with 3 which is "3073", as I typed in 2 the user list would jump to the first ID starting with the combination 32, which is "3200", as I typed in D the User List would scroll to the first ID starting with the combination 32D, which is "32D0", and as I finally typed my last character C, it would scroll to my desired radio ID in the list.

Option #3: Could be combined with #2. In [F]ind -> ser mode, when you select an active transmitting User ID on one of the active system freqs in the top of the screen, make the User List scroll to that ID automatically so you can view adjacent IDs right then. It makes sense to me since the bottom half of the screen already goes to the User List in [F]ind -> ser mode.

Option #4: Do nothing, or use your time for more productive / ambitious projects of greater public demand. :lol:

I posed you those 3 options because I'd like to see all of them in the program, but not being a programmer I can't really gauge the difficulty of or how time consuming implementing each one would actually be, so I wanted to keep my suggestions sort of independant of eachother if one was more realistic than the other.

Finally, could you [perhaps optionally] display Radio Pages on the affiliation screen like mtrunker does? On the Type II Smartzone system I've been talking about, paramedics giving patient reports to hospitals will affiliate to the appropriate talkgroup, then send a PAGE via their radio to the User ID of the base station in the hospital (of the appropriate talkgroup, there's a different one for each hospital), and wait for the ER nurse to call them and say "Go ahead." It's cool to watch the whole ballet as it happens on the affiliations list, and can give one advance warning of a hospital ring down if you're listening to a different talkgroup at the time.

Thanks again for the already outstanding program Rick!

 

[SCPD]

My problem arises in trying to view adjacent User IDs for hexidecimal IDs starting with D, E or F. I have to go to [V]iew -> sers. Then I have to hold the down arrow key for like two minutes as I scroll through 2000 or so User IDs.

PgUp and PgDn keys also work.

Option # 1: (and probably the easiest) would be in either [V]iew -> sers mode, or [F]ind -> sers and then [TAB] to where there's a horizontal green bar across the screen so you can scroll through the users list (in both cases), would you be able to make it so that typing the first number/letter of the hexidecimal User ID would skip the User List TO the section of IDs starting with that number/letter? It could work the same in decimal mode with just the number.

I think you can do that now ... select [F]ind -> ser ... type in the user id. Press tab until you reach the notes field (the last field) ... press tab again ... should place you over the scrolling list of users. I think it even moves you to the currently selected user. From there you can use the arrow keys and PgUp/PgDn keys to browse other radio ids.

Option #2: In [F]ind -> ser mode, when manually entering the User ID in the "By Address" field, could the Users List automatically scroll to narrow down the location of that specific User ID as it was typed in? For instance, typing the first character would cause the User List to start with the first ID starting with that character, then with the second it would show the first ID starting with the two entered characters... etc.

For example, if I were to manually type in User ID "32DC", as I typed 3 the User List would scroll to the first ID in my list beginning with 3 which is "3073", as I typed in 2 the user list would jump to the first ID starting with the combination 32, which is "3200", as I typed in D the User List would scroll to the first ID starting with the combination 32D, which is "32D0", and as I finally typed my last character C, it would scroll to my desired radio ID in the list.

Using the first digit to jump into the middle of a list (ordered by ID) is problematic. If you type "1" ... does that mean "1", "10", "100", "1000", and so on. It's a scrolling list, not a filtered list. I hope the hints given here will work for you.

Option #3: Could be combined with #2. In [F]ind -> ser mode, when you select an active transmitting User ID on one of the active system freqs in the top of the screen, make the User List scroll to that ID automatically so you can view adjacent IDs right then. It makes sense to me since the bottom half of the screen already goes to the User List in [F]ind -> ser mode.

Try this ... when you see an active call ... type [F]ind ... user the arrow keys to highlight the call ... then select ser ... it should fill in the user's info in the "By Address" and "By Name/Label" fields.

Option #4: Do nothing, or use your time for more productive / ambitious projects of greater public demand. :lol:

I posed you those 3 options because I'd like to see all of them in the program, but not being a programmer I can't really gauge the difficulty of or how time consuming implementing each one would actually be, so I wanted to keep my suggestions sort of independant of eachother if one was more realistic than the other.

Cool. A lot of what you're asking is easier to do in a "real" windowed application. We're striving for basic, essential functionality while saving more ambitious features for later.

Finally, could you [perhaps optionally] display Radio Pages on the affiliation screen like mtrunker does? On the Type II Smartzone system I've been talking about, paramedics giving patient reports to hospitals will affiliate to the appropriate talkgroup, then send a PAGE via their radio to the User ID of the base station in the hospital (of the appropriate talkgroup, there's a different one for each hospital), and wait for the ER nurse to call them and say "Go ahead." It's cool to watch the whole ballet as it happens on the affiliations list, and can give one advance warning of a hospital ring down if you're listening to a different talkgroup at the time.

We've made recent progress in the area ... still needs some work ... and feedback. Watch for the next release. No systems use this feature in the areas I monitor so I'm dependant on folks like you to test it out.

-rick