Utah_Viper
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I finally caught a call on one of the new channels. So it looks like im good to go finally. Its been a long, very long week.
Using a Pro-164 in Davis County after rebanding
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I finally caught a call on one of the new channels. So it looks like im good to go finally. Its been a long, very long week.
DickH
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Don't hold your breath. Back when they released the PRO-433 & 528 (also Uniden, Japan scanners) the info. said they could be rebanded. There has never been an upgrade and Radio Shack discontinued them and denies any knowledge or responsibility. Nice.
Using the pro 163
Snorker
Everything has rebanded. I have the pro 163 which I used Win 97 to reprogram with the rebanded frequencies. That is all you should have to do. Erase everything and run your Win 97 again with the new stuff.
Snorker
Everything has rebanded. I have the pro 163 which I used Win 97 to reprogram with the rebanded frequencies. That is all you should have to do. Erase everything and run your Win 97 again with the new stuff.
Yeah I hear you Dick, I'm not holding my breath. But Utah Viper's Pro-162 is working, we're making progress and that's what counts.
I'm on my way to Long Beach to go play on the ocean for a couple months, I hope everyone has a great Christmas.
I'm on my way to Long Beach to go play on the ocean for a couple months, I hope everyone has a great Christmas.
Did you get it working?
So what exactly did you do to get it working with the new frequencies?
So what exactly did you do to get it working with the new frequencies?
Do you need help re programing yours? I am having a problelm with UHP though. I had it at one time and now it just wont scan the ID's. The rest I have. Let me know if you need help and I can send you my phone number. If anyone knows about UHP not working please let me know.
Thanks
Dana
Thanks
Dana
Utah_Viper
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I thought it was working, but I am not seeing any TG's on the new channels unless I am in 'open' mode. I also have found that the scanner will not 'pause' on a TG some of the time. It also seems to get stuck everytime there is a transmission on 860.7125 then it just shows what ever was the last TG, does not scan, yet still passes the other traffic.
The SLC AC33, and the Utah Communications TYS seem to be working perfect. Its just UCAN and the new band plans.
I am at work now, will be most all night. I could maybe call tomorrow.I am copying UHP traffic on the scanner so not sure what is going on.
DickH
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You people just don't get it. The PRO-163 will NOT work (with or without WIN 97) until it gets a new firmware revision that has not yet been released.
What you are hearing are only the old freqs. like 851.0125, etc. The 163 can not track the new freqs. like 851.0250 etc.
For example, look at the 4 simulcast sites in the database.
Weber - 5 New freqs., 6 old.
Davis - 9 new freqs., 2 old.
SLC - 6 new freqs., 14 old.
Utah - 5 new freqs., 6 old.
Several people have explained this, maybe in a different way, but you still won't believe us. Fine. Just sit there and listen to pieces of conversation and piss and moan about it.
qlajlu
Silent Key
Well, I guess everyone didn't get the memo at the same time.
Now, everyone listen! DickH has a memo! Make sure you all listen up. Your Pro-163 will not work on a rebanded system. Did everyone get it that time? Good.
Well ****! What the heck am I hearing? I guess I don't get it. I can't hear one darn thing on my old scanner but non trunked. I guess when the new version comes out I will hear a ton more stuff then. So far I am hearing a ton more with the 163 so my old scanner must have really been awful. I guess I will wait for the new version
Dana
Dana
Here is why I am lost and possibly never to be found.
http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126076
http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126076
N7DND
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Try using Frances peak, works fine, My gre 300 will not scan David simo???
Pro-164
Well, I have contacted both GRE and Radio Shack. I have been told they are working on a firmware update to correct this issue. One indication given was that it would be a few weeks, the other indication was that it is a bit more difficult that first thought and might be longer. We can only hope that they are able to correct the firmware soon considering they have known about the rebanding for some time now.
Well, I have contacted both GRE and Radio Shack. I have been told they are working on a firmware update to correct this issue. One indication given was that it would be a few weeks, the other indication was that it is a bit more difficult that first thought and might be longer. We can only hope that they are able to correct the firmware soon considering they have known about the rebanding for some time now.
Welcome to the forum N7DND!
Hope to see you around these parts a bit more...
Guess I need to go hit Davis and see what my results are. Maybe I will do that on Monday
qlajlu
Silent Key
Welcome to the Utah Forum of RR.com
N7DND
I'm with bneilson in saying I'm glad you are here. Been a member for a long time, I see, but I'm glad you finally came out of the shadows. I hope you will join in our discussions and lend your expertise.
Davis Co. Simulcast
I think N7DND is on to something. I've been in SLC for a few days and was up in Davis County today, and I was getting nothing on the Davis County site. But the CC seemed to be transmitting. In fact I had to lockout the Davis Co. CC in order to pick up Salt Lake Co. and the other sites because Davis was higher on the list of frequencies. My 396T locks on the first CC it hears and ignores the others. It's possible that the Davis Co. site isn't currently being used for some reason, or that the traffic is so light that I missed it.
-Tim
Welcome to the forum N7DND!
Hope to see you around these parts a bit more...
Guess I need to go hit Davis and see what my results are. Maybe I will do that on Monday
I think N7DND is on to something. I've been in SLC for a few days and was up in Davis County today, and I was getting nothing on the Davis County site. But the CC seemed to be transmitting. In fact I had to lockout the Davis Co. CC in order to pick up Salt Lake Co. and the other sites because Davis was higher on the list of frequencies. My 396T locks on the first CC it hears and ignores the others.
It's possible that the Davis Co. site isn't currently being used for some reason, or that the traffic is so light that I missed it.-Tim
ww7y
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I am having no problems with Davis Simo using GRE PSR-600 and BC246T. I was reading somewhere, maybe the GRE forum, that the GRE radios are having problems with simocasts sites. Seems the very small time difference in receiving signals from the different sites (picket fencing) in a simocast systems causes the GREs problems, or so is the theory. N7DND is only about a block from the Bountiful PD site, so the signal must be very strong, with the other Davis sites being less so. You would think this would help the problem, not make it worse. Gary have you tried using the attenuator?? Maybe the receiver is getting swamped. Recheck your CC (852.8375) and your bandplan. I dunno....strange.
(Edit after futher consideration)
Is the PSR-300 the same radio as the Pro-164?? If so then the discussion in this whole thread applies and it won't support rebanding until it gets a firmware update. The problem with Davis Simo is almost all of the freqs are in the new rebanded LCNs, ending in xxx.xxx0. My BC780XLT will do a fair job on SL Simo since it has several pre-reband freqs. (ending in xxx.xxx5) but doesn't get anything on Davis Simo, maybe that is what is going on.
I just don't see the problem with the PSR-600 here in Centerville. It tracks right along with what Unitrunker is seeing.
(Edit after futher consideration)
Is the PSR-300 the same radio as the Pro-164?? If so then the discussion in this whole thread applies and it won't support rebanding until it gets a firmware update. The problem with Davis Simo is almost all of the freqs are in the new rebanded LCNs, ending in xxx.xxx0. My BC780XLT will do a fair job on SL Simo since it has several pre-reband freqs. (ending in xxx.xxx5) but doesn't get anything on Davis Simo, maybe that is what is going on.
I just don't see the problem with the PSR-600 here in Centerville. It tracks right along with what Unitrunker is seeing.
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qlajlu
Silent Key
We talked about this at length in the Davis County Rebanding thread, specifically in this post.
My PSR-600 also has no trouble with Davis County, but my beloved 780XLTs are deaf to Davis County Simo.
Davis County Simo is a definite problem for any scanner that cannot be, or is not upgraded.
Pressure on GRE to get another Firmware update for the Pro-164
For anyone that has a Pro-164. Here is the response I received from GRE who makes the pro-164.
Contained in the response is a link to their support for those who would also like to add a little pressure to get a firmware update.
Hi ****,
Engineering is currently studying this issue. We think this change can be made but it won't be easy. We hope to have an announcement on this within the next few weeks.
I do apologize for the hassle that this creates, and I appreciate your patience.
Best regards,
Jack
GRE Support Team
http://www.greamerica.com/support
Ticket Details
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Ticket ID: 24758
Department: Scanner Receivers
Priority: High
Status: Open
For anyone that has a Pro-164. Here is the response I received from GRE who makes the pro-164.
Contained in the response is a link to their support for those who would also like to add a little pressure to get a firmware update.
Hi ****,
Engineering is currently studying this issue. We think this change can be made but it won't be easy. We hope to have an announcement on this within the next few weeks.
I do apologize for the hassle that this creates, and I appreciate your patience.
Best regards,
Jack
GRE Support Team
http://www.greamerica.com/support
Ticket Details
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Ticket ID: 24758
Department: Scanner Receivers
Priority: High
Status: Open
I have a question, just slightly off topic:
I have a Pro-2055 which I picked up cheap at PACIFICON this summer. I note that it is not capable of rebanding but WIN-97 has a box for a "MOT Custom Trunking Table". It has fields for "Base Freq. Offset Step". Does this mean I can make it work after rebanding? I go into CA quite a bit and their systems are predominantly Motorola Type II. Luckily here in Nevada most systems are EDACS, which once you figure out it's idiosyncracies seems to be just as easy to load up as a Motorola system.
Thanks Guys. You are always interesting to monitor.
73
Joe
I have a Pro-2055 which I picked up cheap at PACIFICON this summer. I note that it is not capable of rebanding but WIN-97 has a box for a "MOT Custom Trunking Table". It has fields for "Base Freq. Offset Step". Does this mean I can make it work after rebanding? I go into CA quite a bit and their systems are predominantly Motorola Type II. Luckily here in Nevada most systems are EDACS, which once you figure out it's idiosyncracies seems to be just as easy to load up as a Motorola system.
Thanks Guys. You are always interesting to monitor.
73
Joe
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