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vp8000 seller cant transfer ownership

Silent99

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I was looking at purchasing a VP8000 and prior to purchase I asked the seller if they could transfer ownership via the vault and they stated "I dont have the capability to transfer the "owenership" via the vault. The license keys within the radio will still be covered under the lifetime coverage if sent to a dealer or depot. All the vault would do is allow you to remove the keys for use in another unit and I cant provide that. We have sold several additional features to customers that have purchased units from other dealers with no problem. All EFJ needs for a feature to be added is the serial number."

They're still asking $4500 for this.. does this seem reasonable? Not too familiar with EFJ and would like to be certain of things before I drop that kind of coin.
 

wd8chl

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You can't really take licenses out of a radio. They stay with it once they're in. Anyone selling a radio needs to sell it with what it has in it. You can add, but you can't subtract.
 

otobmark

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Outside of houses and vehicles, most of the things we own do not have titles including our radios. You can list your stolen radio with Motorola and they will react if it passes through their hands.

So, does my EFJ have an electronic title that must be transferred if I sell it?

For example if I sell my radio to you and you connect to your vault will it accept the radio? Is it like kenwood cps where you have to disable from one machine to activate on another? In an emergency what if you cannot connect to mothership because server is down or internet unavailable? In public safety getting locked out is dangerous. We pretend internet is indestructible in the moment despite seeing it fail over and over again.
When deployed to WNC during Helene several systems I needed immediately used passwords (PCs, accounts, cashe radios). No one present knew the passwords and we were locked out. I created new accounts with new computers where possible and eventually found a person with cashe radio passwords. All of this was due to poor planning but there will ALWAYS be poor planning! Big topic.
 

Echo4Thirty

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You can't really take licenses out of a radio. They stay with it once they're in. Anyone selling a radio needs to sell it with what it has in it. You can add, but you can't subtract.
This is not true with Vault. Some licenses can be snatched out and put back in the vault for use in another radio. Not all features can be removed but a few can. We have transferred several out of radios back into our vault and then back into the customers replacement radios.
 
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