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Will VP8000 allow P25, DMR, and NXDN at the same time?

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Japanese are never wrong....core part of their belief system. In the past working with japanese I have to move around the answer repeatedly until they "discover" the answer. Time consuming and intellectually draining. I don't think there is an expression in Japanese for "you're right"!
 

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Phone tethering is honestly an option. Tait has the Axiom microphone which supposedly JVCK spec'd and threw development money at (JVCK owns some decent but non-controlling amount of Tait for those who were unaware) and chose not to use it. I think what is hurting EFJ right now is the lack of an Atlas native integration of a broadband PTT service built into the radio. With L3's BeON mini-core though, there is some interesting possibilities and I've heard rumors of a Viking port of BeON being a possibility.

BK also is in a similar boat though they chose to go the route of tethering via the user's phone and then simply using a JPS box to interface to the system either via E&M, Wireline, etc. While I don't think that's a great way to go about it...it has certain advantages like simple adhoc networks that don't require any kind of core infrastructure. You can implement it on a direct channel, you can implement it on a conventional repeater that has no other connections or on a trunked system. It's highly adaptable (like JPS products) and fits the traditional wildland fire service role BK is known for.
 

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With L3's BeON mini-core though, there is some interesting possibilities and I've heard rumors of a Viking port of BeON being a possibility.

At minimum, I'm going to tie into ESChat or some similar solution with our upcoming EFJ system. If the do officially support BeON without it being some hacked together kludge, I'd be down for that as our PD is running all Harris XL-200's and I ordered those with the BeOn package.
 

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It's also really sad that Kenwood decided to completely dump the P25 market. Basically, they are shying away from Public Safety. School bus radios, business radios, etc are the future of Kenwood, the PS market is going to be EFJ. I know some dealers who are not very happy, as they cannot sell EFJ depending on territories. I can understand that..
 

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It's also really sad that Kenwood decided to completely dump the P25 market. Basically, they are shying away from Public Safety. School bus radios, business radios, etc are the future of Kenwood, the PS market is going to be EFJ. I know some dealers who are not very happy, as they cannot sell EFJ depending on territories. I can understand that..
We've been having a difficult enough time with the fact EFJ radios are Kenwood labeled now and Kenwood has such a "great" track record on our P25 system with the TK-5x10's and NX-5000's that they haven't been allowed for the last 5 years and the Vikings get lumped into that, "It's a Kenwood mentality" even though it's a completely different firmware and performs completely differently.

I feel for those dealers but the only tears being shed for Kenwood dropping P25 from end users are tears of joy as it's something that should've happened the second they acquired EFJ.
 

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We've been having a difficult enough time with the fact EFJ radios are Kenwood labeled now and Kenwood has such a "great" track record on our P25 system with the TK-5x10's and NX-5000's that they haven't been allowed for the last 5 years and the Vikings get lumped into that, "It's a Kenwood mentality" even though it's a completely different firmware and performs completely differently.

I feel for those dealers but the only tears being shed for Kenwood dropping P25 from end users are tears of joy as it's something that should've happened the second they acquired EFJ.
Very strange situation for sure. Will be interesting to see what happens. Kenwood does have a good name in PS, especially more rural agencies. Maybe Motorola will buy them all out, like they seem to be doing with everything. What better way than to eliminate competition, they figured that out for sure.
 

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We've been having a difficult enough time with the fact EFJ radios are Kenwood labeled now and Kenwood has such a "great" track record on our P25 system with the TK-5x10's and NX-5000's that they haven't been allowed for the last 5 years and the Vikings get lumped into that, "It's a Kenwood mentality" even though it's a completely different firmware and performs completely differently.

I feel for those dealers but the only tears being shed for Kenwood dropping P25 from end users are tears of joy as it's something that should've happened the second they acquired EFJ.
But at least you got free PM’s on all your sites due to Kenwood saying nothing was wrong with their radios so it must be the sites…all of them. 😁
 

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Did KENWOOD goof leaving out a LTE avenue ,probably...
but I just wish the Moderators here would take Project25_Mastr' standard paragraph of how KENWOOD isn't allowed on his system and make it a sticky so he doesn't have to keep pasting it in to almost all of his responses.
 

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Our statewide trs is running tons of efj. Price and availability mainly. Well availability mostly in that particularly small departments don’t order a year ahead. So, wait a year for Motorola or get efj next week…
One local city runs only Motorola because or locator services (gps), or so that is the reason they give. I was under the impression that addition of an efj app to system server would bridge in efj location services?
 

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But at least you got free PM’s on all your sites due to Kenwood saying nothing was wrong with their radios so it must be the sites…all of them. 😁
And then we got told, "You'll have to buy NX-5000's if you want the problem fixed."
 

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Did KENWOOD goof leaving out a LTE avenue ,probably...
but I just wish the Moderators here would take Project25_Mastr' standard paragraph of how KENWOOD isn't allowed on his system and make it a sticky so he doesn't have to keep pasting it in to almost all of his responses.
i must have missed that.
 

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Our statewide trs is running tons of efj. Price and availability mainly. Well availability mostly in that particularly small departments don’t order a year ahead. So, wait a year for Motorola or get efj next week…
One local city runs only Motorola because or locator services (gps), or so that is the reason they give. I was under the impression that addition of an efj app to system server would bridge in efj location services?
Our Province wide Harris system has a ton of fire agencies running Kenwood/EFJ as well. We'll at least the ones that don't buy the bottom barrel Harris radios. Always easy to tell those users by the really crappy audio.
 

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I hope that "crappy audio" is for the 'bottom barrell' harris stuff because all I get here is how good the KENWOOD's sound.
 

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I hope that "crappy audio" is for the 'bottom barrell' harris stuff because all I get here is how good the KENWOOD's sound.
I had a friend who acquired some used EFJ 5300ES mobiles for a local ambulance service that I flashed 6.18.0 firmware onto. Their other radios were NX3700's in some of the other trucks. They all praised the EFJ radios (which are HearClear enabled) over the Kenwood's. I thought that was kind of weird as those NX's should have HearClear in them too since Kenwood applied that to the NX series after the EFJ acquisition.
 

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Want to have something answered very clear, please...

Will the VP8000 monitor a P25 trunked system, and DMR, and NXDN and Analog channels mixed?


If no, what are the specifics, please?
 

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Want to have something answered very clear, please...

Will the VP8000 monitor a P25 trunked system, and DMR, and NXDN and Analog channels mixed?


If no, what are the specifics, please?
The VP8000 has Radio Wide Scan so the DMR, NXDN, and analog shouldn't be a problem. As for trunking, you need to be affiliated to the system so im not sure. They won't do NAS and EFJ doesnt hand out system keys to just anyone so thats out of the picture.
 

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I would be an "authorized user" and not trying to "passive scan" but regardless, I would still like a correct answer.

Ok, will it *scan* 700/800 P25, and VHF, UHF NXDN, DMR and Analog?


This is all relevant to the title of this whole thread
 

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The VP8000 has Radio Wide Scan so the DMR, NXDN, and analog shouldn't be a problem. As for trunking, you need to be affiliated to the system so im not sure. They won't do NAS and EFJ doesnt hand out system keys to just anyone so thats out of the picture.
My VP8000 does NAS. So do my VM900, VP900, and 5x00ES radios. Radio Wide Scan is exactly how you setup scanning a system for which you are not currently affiliated to. You still have to have the system key though…no real difference from Motorola, you just aren't hiding the talkgroup but creating a separate scanlist in RWS.
 

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My VP8000 does NAS. So do my VM900, VP900, and 5x00ES radios. Radio Wide Scan is exactly how you setup scanning a system for which you are not currently affiliated to. You still have to have the system key though…no real difference from Motorola, you just aren't hiding the talkgroup but creating a separate scanlist in RWS.
And how did you manage to get the key?
 
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