WISCOM RID 0

[Robbyboy]

Attempting to monitor WISCOM (Wisconsin Interoperable System for Communications (WISCOM) Trunking System, Statewide, Wisconsin) and I am picking up the groups no problem but every transmission that catches returns a RID of 0. I do NOT have the same problem with ARMER (MN).

What am I missing? If more info is required, please let me know.

Thanks

 

[RoninJoliet]

I think you have to press "PROGRAM , then F3 GLOB then scroll to the last setting TGID Format and set to Norm

 

[Robbyboy]

I think you have to press "PROGRAM , then F3 GLOB then scroll to the last setting TGID Format and set to Norm

Just checked, already set to Norm. I can get RIDs no problem on other systems. Just not WISCOM.

Thank you tho!

 

[sonm10]

I don't know how WISCOM is setup, but ARMER is setup with external patches. Meaning any analog radio is (hard)patched to the digital P25. Every site in the state of Minnesota has these hard patches. These are usually used for fire paging and certain VHF interop frequencies. The UID is 0. RID 0 in Minnesota indicates an External Patch. WISCOM may be similar.

 

[Robbyboy]

I don't know how WISCOM is setup, but ARMER is setup with external patches. Meaning any analog radio is (hard)patched to the digital P25. Every site in the state of Minnesota has these hard patches. These are usually used for fire paging and certain VHF interop frequencies. The UID is 0. RID 0 in Minnesota indicates an External Patch. WISCOM may be similar.

This makes sense for the county scan groups. But everything is coming back with RID 0.

 

[prowisscan]

I have the same issue but only with the WISCOM sites that are vhf. I can get the RID on the 800 mhz sites.

 

[KevinC]

I have the same issue but only with the WISCOM sites that are vhf. I can get the RID on the 800 mhz sites.

It probably has something to do with the Multi-Block TSBK's.

 

[OpSec]

I've never not gotten the Radio ID on my SDS100 or SDS200 on either VHF or 7/800. What scanner are you using?

What TG's are you listening to? Some are patched, either on consoles or on the back end, some are ISSI'd and some are both. However, that's never prevented seeing ID's for me.

 

[KevinC]

I've never not gotten the Radio ID on my SDS100 or SDS200 on either VHF or 7/800. What scanner are you using?

What TG's are you listening to? Some are patched, either on consoles or on the back end, some are ISSI'd and some are both. However, that's never prevented seeing ID's for me.

He's using a Pro-106.

 

[GTR8000]

It probably has something to do with the Multi-Block TSBK's.

This. I'd put money on it, especially if it's only observable on the VHF sites.

 

[tonyh72]

Just checked, already set to Norm. I can get RIDs no problem on other systems. Just not WISCOM.

I have the same issue but only with the WISCOM sites that are vhf. I can get the RID on the 800 mhz sites.

He's using a Pro-106.

The PRO-106 / PRO-197's have never been able to display RID's on VHF P-25 systems. It's a known issue on those scanners, and was never fixed in any of the firmware updates.

If you use the scanner with something like Pro96Com to decode to CC data stream, the software will show the RID's. But there's no way to get the scanner to display them while monitoring a VHF system.

 

[prowisscan]

The PRO-106 / PRO-197's have never been able to display RID's on VHF P-25 systems. It's a known issue on those scanners, and was never fixed in any of the firmware updates.

If you use the scanner with something like Pro96Com to decode to CC data stream, the software will show the RID's. But there's no way to get the scanner to display them while monitoring a VHF system.

That’s true. The same for the Whistler WS1040.

 

[tonyh72]

That’s true. The same for the Whistler WS1040.

That's good to know. Since the Whistler WS1040 / WS1065's are newer versions of the same scanners, I would've thought that they would've addressed the issue by now.......

 

[wgbecks]

FYI,

I have an instance of Boatbod OP25 scanning WISCOM's De Pere (RFSS-1, Site-43) site that is logging RID's with no problem.
AFIK, this is an EFJ Atlas that I can confrim uses MBT Trunking.

See the "Source" column for RID's as captured in the Subscriber Registrations page shown below.