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I don't have the part 90 requirements in front of me but I believe its aimed more at transmitter purity, minimum channel spacing (not necessarily increments) deviation, etc. Where does it spell out a radio must be programmable to a specific frequency?
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Dave, when operated as a Part 90 radio, can it be programmed to transmit on 155.7525 MHz?
 

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Exactly what requirement does it not meet? The user programability is easily removed with the proprietary programming software. Unchecking a single check box, locks the unit down to whatever was programmed into it.



So does every electronic device that is sold in the U.S. Meaningless.



With all due respect, it doesn't matter what your humble opinion is. The fact of the matter is, it was approved and is legal to use for services it was intended (part 90). It may be an unreliable junk radio, but FCC is not in the quality business. It is a part 90 type accepted radio. A far site better than snipping the jumper in an Alinco and handing to your local volunteer firefighter. At least the W can be locked down and tampering with the programming prevented. (This is also a great feature for blind Hams)



Those are pretty wild statements, which obviously I cannot refute. But in this public forum I would recommend caution making accusations like that.

whatever dude.

It's a radio. a cheap radio that doesn't meet narrowband requirements (as many have demonstrated) and yet it was granted part 90 cert by the same agency that is pushing narrowband aggressively. Yet they never bothered to test this basic functionality.

your statements about the "proprietary software requirements" are laughable. Anyone can buy it. No requirements are set by the distributor, and unlike other Part 90 radios, no hardware modification is needed to enable FPP. The Kenwood radios mentioned in comparison (80 series) require physical modification, a special software flash (and it is only supposed to be available for NTIA customers) to enable it. Which is how it should be. No other manufacturer will sell software to enable FPP to end users, Motorola radios require a hardware key and flash to enable FPP. Why should these sub hundred dollar wonders be any different? I'll say it again, reading the documents Wouxun submitted is interesting to say the least. If this is the case than Yaesu should seeking part 90 certification for the FT-60R. At least you have to pop out a diode to enable out of ham band transmit.

It's a friggin ham radio that got sidelined somehow into part 90.
It isn't right and it will end up costing someone bigtime. Mark my word.
This kind of chicanery is what the FCC is becoming, and as an American citizen, I have the RIGHT to criticize them for it. Don't like it? Don't read my posts. The FCC is broken, one has to be blind, deaf and dumb not to see that. All the FCC cares about is generating revenue and not the technical standards regulation they used to long ago, which is why we have nonsense like rebanding, part 90 on ham (aka Recon Robotics), and numerous other examples of their incompetence.

When you visit the FCC page, you see the link for REBOOT.FCC.GOV
they know they are broken.

You love your little Wouxuns, good for you. They are cute cheap Walmart brand toys. But they aren't part 90 material.
 

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Try the TYT radios

I love how so many discussions on the forum turn into someone citing FCC rules!

Anyway:

I just purchased a TYT TH UVF-1. Another Chinese cheapie, but it's FCC approved, and a reputable dealer sold it. I looked at the Wouxuns, but I liked the idea that the TYT was sold locally. Also, the TYT is compatible with brand name accessories and antennas. I could have spent $75 more for a brand name, without the programming cable and software, but why? Now I can afford a nice magnet mount for the car. The abundance of inexpensive ham equip is actually what finally pushed me to get my ham ticket. Finally, the equip fit my budget.
 

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I love how so many discussions on the forum turn into someone citing FCC rules!

Anyway:

I just purchased a TYT TH UVF-1. Another Chinese cheapie, but it's FCC approved, and a reputable dealer sold it. I looked at the Wouxuns, but I liked the idea that the TYT was sold locally. Also, the TYT is compatible with brand name accessories and antennas. I could have spent $75 more for a brand name, without the programming cable and software, but why? Now I can afford a nice magnet mount for the car. The abundance of inexpensive ham equip is actually what finally pushed me to get my ham ticket. Finally, the equip fit my budget.

Sure looks like the Wouxun UV3D and the accessories look the same too. What is the FCC cert number on that one?
 

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I purchased my units for the sole purpose of amateur radio. They perform well and do the basics of what I want and need. I get no complaints from contacts when I use them in either simplex or repeaters. I'll use my motorolas and Ericksson's for part 90 use at work.
 

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I currently own and use a VX-8R
it is the only radio I own and have ever owned. (newbie)
I wanted a good radio to start out with to keep for a long time.
I am considering buying a couple of the Wouxun radios for one reason:
They are cheap
Build quality poor, whatever
but given the choice of getting my 8R stolen out of my jeep vs a 100 radio, I would rather lose the wouxun. Would it replace my 8R all the time? No.
Would I let my son use it as his first radio when he gets his ticket? yeah because if he breaks it or loses it, then I am not out the money.
You don't buy your kid a BMW for their first car, You buy them a POS that they will wreck.
That is my draw to the Wouxun.
Know what you are buying and use it appropriately.
Going into a burning building as a vol firefighter, I will take the Motorola or 8R. Going into the weeds to get dirty, I will take the wouxun and lock the 8R away.
just my opinon
 

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You can't legally operate on 155.7525 with one of these radios. Being 2.5 kHz off frequency doesn't meet the frequency stability specified in 90.213

That is the only thing that keeps me from recommending these radios more widely. I wish they would fix it (yes, I know that probably means a new hardware version).
 

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I currently own and use a VX-8R
it is the only radio I own and have ever owned. (newbie)
I wanted a good radio to start out with to keep for a long time.
I am considering buying a couple of the Wouxun radios for one reason:
They are cheap
Build quality poor, whatever
but given the choice of getting my 8R stolen out of my jeep vs a 100 radio, I would rather lose the wouxun. Would it replace my 8R all the time? No.
Would I let my son use it as his first radio when he gets his ticket? yeah because if he breaks it or loses it, then I am not out the money.
You don't buy your kid a BMW for their first car, You buy them a POS that they will wreck.
That is my draw to the Wouxun.
Know what you are buying and use it appropriately.
Going into a burning building as a vol firefighter, I will take the Motorola or 8R. Going into the weeds to get dirty, I will take the wouxun and lock the 8R away.
just my opinon


I don't know about that....alot of police officer, EMTs and firefighters use these Wouxun radios around here. They are relyed on heavily and have yet to disappoint. I like my Wouxun very much. Some of the accessories aren't worth a flip, but the radio itself is a tough little radio.
 

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I don't know about that....alot of police officer, EMTs and firefighters use these Wouxun radios around here. They are relyed on heavily and have yet to disappoint. I like my Wouxun very much. Some of the accessories aren't worth a flip, but the radio itself is a tough little radio.

The speaker mic leaves a lot to be desired, and I have yet to find an alternative compatible one that I feel is any better.
 

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The speaker mic leaves a lot to be desired, and I have yet to find an alternative compatible one that I feel is any better.

Avoid MFJ's crap....these have the same pin out as Kenwood, so any Kenwood mic will work. I have a Kenwood SMC-34 that works great with it, but I rarely use a speaker mic unless I have too.
 

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Like I said. I am interested in picking a couple up. Might be good to give out to a couple people I am trying to mentor into HAMs. It will be a motivational gift. If they pass their test, I will give em a radio.
Not to mention a spare to keep in the car at all times in case I need one and don't happen to have my 8R with me.
 

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The speaker mic leaves a lot to be desired, and I have yet to find an alternative compatible one that I feel is any better.

I needed a new one for my 202 I got a Pryme from HRO looks good and sounds good [from what the folks I talk to tell me]

I've been tinking of getting a dual band I like the price.
 
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Geeze... Just buy the radio and use it.

MT2000: While I'm in agreement that these radios aren't of the same build quality as a Motorola/Kenwood/GE product, the fact is that the FCC *did* certify them under Part 90. Like it or not, they ARE legal to operate as such. Don't like it, feel free to file a complaint with the FCC, but the fact remains they are legal. I agree they shouldn't have been given the certification but they did. Don't bash the product, bash the process.
 

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Honestly people. We are in the Amateur radio sub-forum.. so why piss and moan about its Durability for *commercial users*!?

Go to the commercial radio sub-forum (if there is one) ok?

The radio has its FCC ID, so hams are grabbing them up. They work Great as "amateur radios" There may be some quirks; but their reviews are positive across the board, whth few bad reviews *from hams*. I know about a half dozon people with one and they all love them. A couple folks own more than one :)


If you wanna debate their commercial use... seek a "commercial radio" forum.... NOT go off topic in this "Amateur Radio Equipment Forum"

Not being a butt head... just sayin'

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I just purchased a TYT UVF1 the other day and I am able to program in 155.7525 just fine. Maybe they changed them recently or something?
 
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