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During yesterday's testing I heard one of the techs on the 1565 TG say it was the Health Dept TG.

The question for me is did something happen to the control channel or power output from the Berkeley Tower? I used to be able to receive it very well in NW Loudoun now nothing??

Jim
 

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I think the Berkeley Tower is on the secondary CC right now. Maybe you don't have it programmed.
Also listening to drill in Jefferson Co. and 1565 does indeed sound like Health Dept.
Some aspects of drill still on the old analog channels, so maybe the equipment for new system has not been installed in the field equipment yet.
 

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I don't have my notes in front of my, but my recollection is that the xxx51 TGs tend to be OES talkgroups, but YMMV.

PS Heard mic keys on a couple other 90xx TGs recently on twr 0109, so sounds like SP might be getting more active.
 

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Airfire said:
During yesterday's testing I heard one of the techs on the 1565 TG say it was the Health Dept TG.

The question for me is did something happen to the control channel or power output from the Berkeley Tower? I used to be able to receive it very well in NW Loudoun now nothing??

Jim

wb8oif said:
I think the Berkeley Tower is on the secondary CC right now. Maybe you don't have it programmed.
Also listening to drill in Jefferson Co. and 1565 does indeed sound like Health Dept.
Some aspects of drill still on the old analog channels, so maybe the equipment for new system has not been installed in the field equipment yet.

it is using the secondary control channel. I've noticed a little difference in the signal while driving. here at home I get full signal on both as well as the Jefferson Co. CC.
 

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On my 396T I had all the CCs for all of the WV trunked systems (ones without known CCs, I put all of them in). I noticed that it was only using the Jefferson primary CC and ignoring the Berkeley secondary CC. I had to create a system for each with a QuickKey (had analog systems setup with different QuickKeys so it wasn't a big deal).

Did this happen due to the Berkeley system being set to use the secondary CC and the Jefferson system being seen as the primary CC for testing? This is the only thing that I can think of. I guess it would make sense until testing is over.

My 996T has all as different sites so it was just fine.
 
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Mike,
I have a folder that has all the cc in my area as one system. It will go down and hit the 1st in the list and run from that unless you have that freq. set to lockout then it will go down to the next. If you need these to be independent from each other you will need to set them as 2 different systems with all the cc's in for that system.

How well does your scanner do with the analog setup? I don't have enough traffic to try that with the irp system but with the fed. prison with is moto type 2. it is the only way I can pick them up from this distance.

Jeffery Smith
 

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wvscanner said:
Mike,
I have a folder that has all the cc in my area as one system. It will go down and hit the 1st in the list and run from that unless you have that freq. set to lockout then it will go down to the next. If you need these to be independent from each other you will need to set them as 2 different systems with all the cc's in for that system.

basically, that's what I ended up doing. works fine like this. I just hadn't yet experienced having 2 CCs with a full strength signal like this. I think at very first they were both using their primary CCs and I think I remember seeing the scanner search both. I only noticed the issue when I was driving home, heard traffic on the Jefferson system (when I was driving through Jefferson Co.) then when I was home it was quiet (testing on that system was concluded when I was on the road) and noticed the 996 was the only one I heard traffic on the Berkeley Co. system. I then saw where it was only doing the Jefferson Co. CC. I think I turned it off and then back on and it was then doing the Berkeley Co. CC. the next morning it was back on the Jefferson CC. after that I decided to split them up and see how it acts when they both were set back to primary.

wvscanner said:
How well does your scanner do with the analog setup? I don't have enough traffic to try that with the irp system but with the fed. prison with is moto type 2. it is the only way I can pick them up from this distance.

Jeffery Smith


I haven't had any problems with any analog system example is Fairfax Co. VA and Frederick Co. MD. but then I don't monitor them a lot.
 

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Hopefully the progress goes faster up there then here. From what I understood that Mercer Co. was pose to go online 3 weeks ago and never did. Here it is still more like CB talk you catch on Monday or Tuesday around 7 – 8 am with the tec, outside of that nothing.

They can do testing but until the grants come thru on the purchase the new equipment may not hear nothing.
 
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The difference between Mercer and Jefferson is that Jefferson paid for their system themselves. Even the tower. The state did the tower for Berkeley but the county bought the radios. Money talks.
 

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jaybotoo said:
The difference between Mercer and Jefferson is that Jefferson paid for their system themselves. Even the tower. The state did the tower for Berkeley but the county bought the radios. Money talks.


also (just a guess) population and amount of EMS and LE calls.
 

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anyone hear anything on the Jefferson County System this week?

I have had the Jefferson System plugged in and running for several days and have not heard anything on it yet. Will continue to monitor and will post if it comes alive. BTW the signal is about the same percentage as the N Mtn Site on the Pro-96.
 

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My guess would be that 04931 is an interop T/G for the counties that roughly make out State Police Troop 5.

My theory is that all 0x9nn T/G's are, and that they are assigned by IRP Region corresponding to the county-based T/Gs in the same, preceding series. (Indeed, certain 0r9nn T/Gs seem to be assigned to the same function in all regions. E.g., 0r911 and 0r927 seem to be an Inter-PSAP channel.)

Thus, e.g.:

- 009nn T/Gs are interop for the Region 1 counties, which use 00cnn T/Gs by county (001nn = HARR, 002nn = MARI, 003nn = MONO, etc.),

- 019nn T/Gs are interop for the Region 2 counties, which use 01cnn T/Gs by county (011nn = BERK, 015nn = JEFF, etc.),

and so on up to at least:

- 069nn T/Gs are interop for the Region 7 counties, which use 06cnn T/Gs by county (061nn and 062nn = KANA, etc.).

So until they [the Lincoln Co folks (still A. Holder et al.?)] lay out their channel plan, maybe we won't know exactly what series Lincoln will be in, but that it'll be near there (e.g., perhaps 042nn, since it appears CABE snagged 041nn already, but bearing in mind that for the 0rcnn pattern, where r = (Region-1) and c = County, this might have already been preassigned regardless of whether the county is active or not, since I note that 015nn was assigned to JEFF before we heard anything on 012nn thru 014nn, and we've already logged an 044nn T/G a while back).

[Note that if I'm correct, this plan plan would only allow 8 counties in Region 1 (001nn thru 008nn, since we know 000nn is assigned to the radio techs), and 9 counties in the other Regions if they haven't reserved 0r0nn for a special group (0r0nn thru 0r8nn). So they can't be exactly the same as State Police troops, cuz Troop 1 alone has 12 counties. As it turns out, if R1 has 7 counties and another six have 8 counties, that is exactly 55 counties. Maybe a coincidence...]

An outsider's 2c worth.

...R

I was close. Lincoln County came on the air today. They got 043xx (so somebody else musta gotten 042xx -- I was one off). They have T/Gs:

- 4301
- 4305
- 4307
- 4333
- 4335
- 4337
- 4351
- 4353
- 4355
- 4399
 

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Wonder if they will follow the normal configuration as used in other counties? ie; x01 fire, x05 ems, x07 sheriff, x33-x37 Tac channels, x51-x53 "Other" county entity channels???

(I don't have anyone using x99. Wonder what that is?)

Quick thought - wonder if Wayne gets 42xx? That would fit...
 
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me714 said:
Wonder if they will follow the normal configuration as used in other counties? ie; x01 fire, x05 ems, x07 sheriff, x33-x37 Tac channels, x51-x53 "Other" county entity channels???

(I don't have anyone using x99. Wonder what that is?)

Quick thought - wonder if Wayne gets 42xx? That would fit...

1199 has been mentioned several times, speculating it's a "hail" channel in JeffCo of some kind. It's the only 0cc99 TG I've heard anyone mention.

Unsure on what TGs are what yet; stay tuned... I did hear Lincoln EMS 22 working Lincoln dispatch on 4927 and 4931, which I've theorized are Region 5 interop channels.
 
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