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My guess would be that 04931 is an interop T/G for the counties that roughly make out State Police Troop 5.

My theory is that all 0x9nn T/G's are, and that they are assigned by IRP Region corresponding to the county-based T/Gs in the same, preceding series. (Indeed, certain 0r9nn T/Gs seem to be assigned to the same function in all regions. E.g., 0r911 and 0r927 seem to be an Inter-PSAP channel.)

Thus, e.g.:

- 009nn T/Gs are interop for the Region 1 counties, which use 00cnn T/Gs by county (001nn = HARR, 002nn = MARI, 003nn = MONO, etc.),

- 019nn T/Gs are interop for the Region 2 counties, which use 01cnn T/Gs by county (011nn = BERK, 015nn = JEFF, etc.),

and so on up to at least:

- 069nn T/Gs are interop for the Region 7 counties, which use 06cnn T/Gs by county (061nn and 062nn = KANA, etc.).

So until they [the Lincoln Co folks (still A. Holder et al.?)] lay out their channel plan, maybe we won't know exactly what series Lincoln will be in, but that it'll be near there (e.g., perhaps 042nn, since it appears CABE snagged 041nn already, but bearing in mind that for the 0rcnn pattern, where r = (Region-1) and c = County, this might have already been preassigned regardless of whether the county is active or not, since I note that 015nn was assigned to JEFF before we heard anything on 012nn thru 014nn, and we've already logged an 044nn T/G a while back).

[Note that if I'm correct, this plan plan would only allow 8 counties in Region 1 (001nn thru 008nn, since we know 000nn is assigned to the radio techs), and 9 counties in the other Regions if they haven't reserved 0r0nn for a special group (0r0nn thru 0r8nn). So they can't be exactly the same as State Police troops, cuz Troop 1 alone has 12 counties. As it turns out, if R1 has 7 counties and another six have 8 counties, that is exactly 55 counties. Maybe a coincidence...]

An outsider's 2c worth.

...R
 
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That's pretty good! I know I've logged some stuff off CRW in the 6900 series, but nothing I could identify. Your logic does make a lot of sense, and it will be interesting to see if you've nailed it!

As for 4931, I was just going by the fact that the Lincoln County guy was talking on an Interop radio recently installed at the Hamlin Dispatch, and he obviously didn't have a clue what channel he was on. (I was hoping he would read the display, and tell the tech, "Yeah, this thing says "xxxxxx xxxx", but it never happened. Darn.

One of the highlights of the conversation was the tech trying to see if the Lincoln guy could find and give him (the tech) a RSSI reading. He had him punching buttons all over the radio (to no avail). The LI guy eventually said, "Well, I've got a red button here... Actually, It's kind of orange, though. Want me to push it and see if that's it?"

To which the tech hurredly replied, "NO!, NO!, Lord, no, please don't push that one..." A very informative discussion followed as the tech described the "Panic Button" feature (and the ramifications if pushed) on the Interop radios!

Pretty cool...
 

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BTW, I heard a couple of SP units on 4927 way back in May and June, and on July 7, right after DOT got on IRP, I heard "Huntington 911, Cabell DOH-2 on interoperable."

Anybody figure out what 9940 and 9960 are?
 

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Anybody else notice Capitol PD seems to be on 09403 now instead of 09401? I wonder if the channel 1 repeater went down ;^)

...R
 

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Yep! I heard it crash this weekend... They were panicking, called out the big dog (Jay Smithers, who I went to school with) - must have thought it was the beginning of a subverisve event on the capitol grounds!

Evidently, it is also a console problem, as the dispatcher (The lady that never gets rattled), said she was talking on her portable...

Ahh, modern technology!!! :)
 

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me714 said:
The LI guy eventually said, "Well, I've got a red button here... Actually, It's kind of orange, though. Want me to push it and see if that's it?" To which the tech hurredly replied, "NO!, NO!, Lord, no, please don't push that one..." A very informative discussion followed as the tech described the "Panic Button" feature (and the ramifications if pushed) on the Interop radios!
Well, on a normal TRS I would assume that pushing that button would either a) identify him as having an emergency or b) give him immediate access to a repeater (thus cutting someone off if all channels are being used). But I don't know. So what would that typically do on both a normal TRS and on an interop radio?
 

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On the interop radios in WV, it operates as a "Panic Button", though they use a more diginified name for it. It will send an emergency signal with the radio's ID - Remember, the Interop radios are somewhat like cell phones in that sense - for the radio to work with the system, its individual parameters have to be "registered" with the system. For example, you can't just purchase one off eBay and use it for your personal use on the volunteer fire department or whatever. (No more kerchunking the repeaters!)

Thus, say for instance, a deputy sheriff gets in trouble up a holler somewhere, and in the ensuing scuffle he can't key his mike to make a transmisssion (Not uncommon when you have a bunch of holler boys trying to whoop up on you) - but, if he can get his finger to the red button, it immediately transmits an emergency signal to the comm center, where the radio's ID and user is displayed immediately, allowing help to be sent ASAP.
 

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I just submitted information for the Elkins tower.

Call Sign: WQHG872
Site ID: 122(T0116)
Control: 453.175
Alternate: 453.3625

I've had Pro96Com running for about a half-hour with only one hit, TG 927.
 
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Now that Hancock County Sheriff and Fire departments has decided to possibly go forward with upgrading their radio system to digital P25 does anyone know if this part of the WV Interoperability System going on across the state or are they just going about going digital P25 on their own?
 

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Good question ...

It's my understanding that Gov. Manchin has decreed that any radios purchased with state money - full or partial - had to be Interop Compatible. Anyone else remember him saying that? (It's been a while back)...
 

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I am not too sure they are using state money. The county has set aside $660,000 to upgrade the towers and the equipment. They are waiting until the next meeting to get the final cost amount on the project. I think I might have the article saved somewhere becasue I can't find it online now.
 

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I found the article that was in the paper a few weeks back where they are going to decide today how to pay for the new equipment. It appears the county is paying for it all themselves. They are going to add several new towers in dead areas across Hancock County and go to a digital P25 system. They will be replacing the county base equipment. To save money, the article says the new equipment will incorporate with the existing equipment and they will only replace radios when they go bad with the digital technology. The article was in the Weirton Daily Times back in mid August. They expect to have this complete within the next 9 months. So from the way I read the article, they are sticking with the frequencies they are already using but I could be wrong.
 

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The head guy over communications for WV DHS lives in my town, and the Fire Chief for my department talked to him a couple of months ago. The Feds are releasing a whole truckload of money to the states for communications, and the WV DHS is handing that money out in the spring as grants. Applications will be taken in January 2008 or so. I don't have concrete figures on how much money is available due to the fact that the grant isn't available yet. I'm guessing that come next summer, there will be a whole lot more locations on the new system, and a whole lot more traffic.

This may be old news to some, but fairly new and newsworthy to me.

I don't know how many departments, agencies, or counties even know about the WV DHS grant programs. We got involved in their grants when I read an article on a bunch of money that WV DHS had available for firefighting gear. I called (turns out I knew the grant administrator), and they only expected about 80 to 90 applicants... out of around 440 fire departments!! So, our grant for air packs with integrated communications ($96,500) looks "really good" according to WV DHS. With $4 million to hand out over 90 applicants, I bet it does look good. :)

Our department's goal: a mobile interop radio in every truck, and a portable on every firefighter's side. And that is what I'll likely write the grant for during the winter.
 

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1018 Bluefield (Mercer) 453.38750 460.13750 460.33750 460.43750 460.55000

I got a site id of 119 on 453.3875.

Amazing I can pick up Mercer, Boone, towers enough to get the id's in places of Beckley, but have a hard time pickup Ghent, Kopperston in other places to monitor them.
 

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In case you're keeping score... Pretty sure 6140 is Kanawha Fire, though what it is actually called I have no idea. (I've only heard eastern county chiefs on it, so it may be fire east)... 6170 is TAC 1, heard chief 11 say it loud and clear during the big gas leak. Fire Tac one or just general Tac one? That I don't know...
 

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My guess is that the reason we've only heard chiefs on 6140 is that it's the Chiefs' Channel; I've heard that channel referred to by name, but never snagged the t/g # for it. I've also heard 6170 called Tac-1. I've heard traffic on 6171, 6172, and 6173, too, so I'm gonna take a wild guess....

...R
 

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You know, I guess at some point in time, we're gonna have to start posting some of this Kanawha stuff to the database... :)
 

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I heard some traffic on Kopperston tower today with the ID:65001, listen to them they were having some problems in setting up a radio and was wondering how long it should take to program it. When the guy responded that he should just copy the old file over and only take about 2 min. to complete. He asked about it that file the old file would have that new feature in it. The other guy responded that they were going to install this new feature in all of them. I was in an area that I could not keep with the tower to hear the rest.

At the same time I heard Tec 1 talking to Mercer 1 (ID1) that they had a problem because someone changed out their directional antenna with Omni antennas and he wasn’t happy about that. I did not listen much to this one because I was trying to listen to the other traffic.

I thought I would post this on the group since these towers seems to be silence for the last 3 weeks other then on Monday’s when they are seeing where who is where getting to the meeting’s that day.

Jeffery Smith
 

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Tg 9005 - Wvsp

Troop2 of WVSP is using TG 9005 a lot tonight. they must have completed the installation of the dispatch in Charles Town this week.

I think the TG will be used by troopers in the area as well as dispatch from Romney and Charles Town.
 
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