X36 "huge, tremendous, fantastic feature addition"?

[Voyager]

Chill out, Buddy. It's not worth it. Just report his post and hope the mods enforce the policies. (I did)

 

[buddrousa]

I am ok but I do use my 536 on my Android Phone PM ME

 

[Ed6698]

But, the message has been sent that the bar is being raised. ProVoice was hopefully just an entry into the additional digital mode realm. Proof of concept if you will. It is also EOL, which means that licensing fees were most likely less of a gamble than some other formats, and a good jumping off point.

There may be no reason for the competitor to add ProVoice, but there is an incentive to beat Uniden to another, more popular mode, and that same incentive applies to Uniden to keep ahead of the competition.

I agree to a point. But Japan calls the shots for Uniden though I believe. If they see little return with ProVoice, that may in turn slow progress for anything else in the future. People in this country call the shots for the competitor I believe, so we have to see how they respond.

 

[marcotor]

All the what about me cry babies you need to think about the people that got left out of the scanner market from day one in the digital market.

I will continue to say this as long as the same, tired, 11 posters jump into every Uniden thread to whine and complain the same, tired, complaints they have made in hundreds of posts. Including the user near me who has been banned multiple times for encryption rants, and now wishes Uniden bankrupt as something "serving the greater good".

If Uniden made a scanner (or software update) that added DMR/NXDN, and dispensed cookies from the SD slot, then they would still complain it doesn't have OpenSky, MPT, and a gluten-free cake option.

 

[RayAir]

Unbelievable turn this thread has taken.

 

[Citywide173]

I agree to a point. But Japan calls the shots for Uniden though I believe. If they see little return with ProVoice, that may in turn slow progress for anything else in the future. People in this country call the shots for the competitor I believe, so we have to see how they respond.

They rolled out a format that covers 6% of the US/Canada. There are huge actuarial formulas that are in play here. The return doesn't have to be huge to show a viable model that can be extrapolated to other formats.

 

[Jay911]

Unbelievable turn this thread has taken.

IMO you misspelled "inevitable"

 

[Ed6698]

They rolled out a format that covers 6% of the US/Canada. There are huge actuarial formulas that are in play here. The return doesn't have to be huge to show a viable model that can be extrapolated to other formats.

That is true.

Either way depending on what either competitor releases probably will not benefit me no matter what format comes out in the near future. As the county I live in just in the past month or so rolled out a new 700mhz P25 Phase II system for the entire county and there really is no other format in use that would interest me. DMR is in use, only for a school district.

 

[phask]

Curious - any usage outside the US - Canada?

 

[Jay911]

Curious - any usage outside the US - Canada?

There are very few non-North American continent EDACS systems listed in the RRDB, in Hong Kong, Poland, Trinidad & Tobago, and Australia. Of those, almost everything is either analog or AEGIS and analog, with the exception of one system in Australia, which states analog and P25 CAI. Not sure how that one works.

 

[kellykeeton]

X36 "huge, tremendous, fantastic feature addition"?

Post failure

 

[garys]

New to Radio Reference are you? :roll:

Unbelievable turn this thread has taken.

 

[garys]

This forum really needs a "Like" button. Those 11 or so are the usual suspects, which is why I generally ignore their whine-o-grams.

I will continue to say this as long as the same, tired, 11 posters jump into every Uniden thread to whine and complain the same, tired, complaints they have made in hundreds of posts. Including the user near me who has been banned multiple times for encryption rants, and now wishes Uniden bankrupt as something "serving the greater good".

If Uniden made a scanner (or software update) that added DMR/NXDN, and dispensed cookies from the SD slot, then they would still complain it doesn't have OpenSky, MPT, and a gluten-free cake option.

 

[garys]

Being the suspicious type you know me to be Ed, I also have to wonder if Harris agreed to sell the rights to Uniden thinking that it might impel some EDACS/Pro Voice users to speed up the move to P25 so that they can have encryption capabilities.

But, the message has been sent that the bar is being raised. ProVoice was hopefully just an entry into the additional digital mode realm. Proof of concept if you will. It is also EOL, which means that licensing fees were most likely less of a gamble than some other formats, and a good jumping off point.

There may be no reason for the competitor to add ProVoice, but there is an incentive to beat Uniden to another, more popular mode, and that same incentive applies to Uniden to keep ahead of the competition.

 

[Citywide173]

Being the suspicious type you know me to be Ed, I also have to wonder if Harris agreed to sell the rights to Uniden thinking that it might impel some EDACS/Pro Voice users to speed up the move to P25 so that they can have encryption capabilities.

That is also a very good point. They stopped selling in 2011 and have a stated end of support in 2017, but others have heard of some contracts guaranteeing support through 2025, so it could very well be an incentive to get those long term users to move.

 

[mitbr]

First and foremost Uniden is a business .Its all about the money as it should be. This Provoice upgrade will generate millions of dollars for them which in the long run will help us and them.

Although it is frustrating I believe Uniden will come through on the promised features.

Now before the haters start hating on me this is my opinion and I own both the 436 and 536hp and am quite happy with them.

If we continue to not support Unidens scanner division it will close up shop then where will be.

There is nothing wrong with being strong and reminding Uniden of their shortfalls just do it in a constructive manner it works better that way.
Have a beer take a walk go out and have fun don't let these scanner issues control your life...Rant off

That is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
Tim

 

[KE4ZNR]

First and foremost Uniden is a business .Its all about the money as it should be. This Provoice upgrade will generate millions of dollars for them which in the long run will help us and them.

Although it is frustrating I believe Uniden will come through on the promised features.

Now before the haters start hating on me this is my opinion and I own both the 436 and 536hp and am quite happy with them.

If we continue to not support Unidens scanner division it will close up shop then where will be.

There is nothing wrong with being strong and reminding Uniden of their shortfalls just do it in a constructive manner it works better that way.
Have a beer take a walk go out and have fun don't let these scanner issues control your life...Rant off

That is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
Tim

woah now Tim there is NO room here for constructive dialog like your post [emoji6]
Good comments and thanks for your well reasoned dialog.
Marshall KE4ZNR

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[SOFA_KING]

Yes, refreshing to say the least will all this "childish temper tantrum" nonsense spattering up the forum. The points have all been made and heard by those that matter. That's all I could hope for, as communication to the company is concerned. No point in starting new threads to continue crying and whining over what has already been said and done. Good way to tarnish your reputation and derail constructive conversation...and no one needs that.

Progress is being made, so I'm hopeful we will see good things happen. Besides, I would rather see a single scanner line expand mode capability (pay for the options you want or need) than have to buy a whole new scanner line every time. This approach is more cost effective for everyone involved. But I do hope DMR is next on the drawing board.

Phil

 

[buddrousa]

And for those wanting a true spectrum analyzer HP sells one for $30,000.00 but you may have to buy the options you want so it may cost more.

 

[garys]

The concept of pay for some upgrades was mentioned as far back as when the XT scanners were announced. It's a good idea and I hope that Uniden expands upon it during the life of the x36HP. Uniden is putting a lot of effort and money into the x36HP, especially when it comes to fixing hardware problems. I don't expect them to abandon the platform for some time to come.

I think that just about everyone would like to see DMR, but I fear that the licensing costs will be steep. That's if licensing is even available.

Progress is being made, so I'm hopeful we will see good things happen. Besides, I would rather see a single scanner line expand mode capability (pay for the options you want or need) than have to buy a whole new scanner line every time. This approach is more cost effective for everyone involved. But I do hope DMR is next on the drawing board.

Phil