X36 "huge, tremendous, fantastic feature addition"?

[mancow]

Uniden: We are currently in negotiations with Morotola and others for licensing

RR Board: Wheeeee! (followed by rampant speculation)

Uniden: Motorola asking $XX per unit, upgrade will be $75

RR Board: FU Uniden. (and from all the marketing geniuses here who apparently know how to run a business into bankruptcy) YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS AND GIVE IT FOR FREE. UNIDEN SUXORZ!

Then the.. endless ellipses writers... who apparently cannot... form a coherent... sentence or... thought...... will chime.. in.. to add... their... wisdoms.

And you wonder why UPMan won't answer "why not" questions... acting like a girl who got felt up in the limo on the way to the prom.

Uniden: Legal and technical issues allowed us to add Provoice at this time so we decided to do so as a test to see how well a pay for feature program would be adopted.

We are open to the idea of other protocols and are exploring those possibilities. If we deem it profitable enough and the legal issues are resolved we will likely work toward those other goals in the future.


See, it isn't that difficult.

 

[petrol88]

a: I took UPMan's "huge, tremendous, fantastic" comment as being very tongue-in-cheek...some here have taken it way too much to heart.
b: If you live in an area with ProVoice systems, I would describe this updates as, well, "huge, tremendous, fantastic."
c: If you don't live in such an area, it demonstrates a capability (adding more digital modes) that I find, well, "huge, tremendous, fantastic" as an omen for the possible future.

Some of you forget that there are also competitive reasons why Uniden might want to hint at future things to come without spelling them out too early. They do have a competitor (who is coming out with an entire new model...sort of...that hasn't gotten 1/10th the attention or discussion that this upgrade is getting). I doubt they want to "part the curtains" too early so as to give themselves the longest possibility of competitive advantage.

 

[Jay911]

a: I took UPMan's "huge, tremendous, fantastic" comment as being very tongue-in-cheek...some here have taken it way too much to heart.
b: If you live in an area with ProVoice systems, I would describe this updates as, well, "huge, tremendous, fantastic."
c: If you don't live in such an area, it demonstrates a capability (adding more digital modes) that I find, well, "huge, tremendous, fantastic" as an omen for the possible future.

Some of you forget that there are also competitive reasons why Uniden might want to hint at future things to come without spelling them out too early. They do have a competitor (who is coming out with an entire new model...sort of...that hasn't gotten 1/10th the attention or discussion that this upgrade is getting). I doubt they want to "part the curtains" too early so as to give themselves the longest possibility of competitive advantage.

You! With the logic! Get out of here. There's no room for that kind of thinking in this thread.

 

[Boatanchor]

Healthy competition

Provoice is of no use to me either.

However, if nothing else, Uniden may have spurred a little healthy competition between the 'big' two.

The door has been left ajar and it is now up to Whistler to come to the party with a new DV mode.

Fact is, everyone knows the market is pretty much saturated with both legacy (but still perfectly functional) P25 Phase 1/2 units and recently dumped RS hardware. SDR is making inroads and encryption is, as always, the elephant in the room.

Scanner manufacturers have little choice but to begin producing product that is markedly different from what has been produced in the last 10+ years, if they want to keep their production facilities and revenue streams going forward.

We may be seeing the first, tentative moves in this direction.

 

[nbarco]

You are correct about SDR making inroads...and if you look in other forums and on he web. Inroads are being made at decoding and programming those elephants in the room to be monitored with SDR-like programs. Of course the feasible standards. The "altruistic elephant standard" proves difficult, still.

 

[Citywide173]

"altruistic elephant standard"

I think a new euphemism has been created, and I applaud the choice!

 

[Voyager]

Uniden: Legal and technical issues allowed us to add Provoice at this time so we decided to do so as a test to see how well a pay for feature program would be adopted.

We are open to the idea of other protocols and are exploring those possibilities. If we deem it profitable enough and the legal issues are resolved we will likely work toward those other goals in the future.


See, it isn't that difficult.

Again, you don't want to give your competition ANY idea of what you are or are not working on. It's only smart business to not comment on the future plans. That's like Business 101.

Not difficult, but not smart either.

 

[Citywide173]

Besides, you don't give your competition time to catch up if at all avoidable.

+1 on this

Also, the speculation in the thread provided a tremendous amount of marketing research to Uniden (Whistler as well), all at the cost of the time it took to start a thread.

 

[marcotor]

Uniden: Legal and technical issues allowed us to add Provoice at this time so we decided to do so as a test to see how well a pay for feature program would be adopted.

We are open to the idea of other protocols and are exploring those possibilities. If we deem it profitable enough and the legal issues are resolved we will likely work toward those other goals in the future.


See, it isn't that difficult.

And it isn't wise. Uniden has an engaged, healthy competitor. Why telegraph your intentions to satisfy a percentage of your user base?

There is a whole industry built around reading the tea leaves at Apple, and they are only about 50% right. And while Apple hardly ever invents a new wheel, what they excel at is making something existing better, and keeping it under wraps until the grand reveal. And when Apple doesn't announce a car, or a television, the analysts get all up in arms about how the announcement was a "disappointment".

Why do some users expect to know what is in a roadmap years down the line from Uniden? One thing I think was learned from vaporware days was that maybe it's wise to hold any announcement until it is working, and in hand.

 

[nbarco]

This is good maybe the competitor can succeed where they have failed.

 

[buddrousa]

All the what about me cry babies you need to think about the people that got left out of the scanner market from day one in the digital market. This dates back to the release of the 785D followed by the PRO96 these people got left out that had PRO VOICE now they have been addressed a little late but they get their systems and all you cry babies can think about is yourself I pray you are not first responders that will turn your back on your brother first responders because all you can do is think about yourself.

 

[RayAir]

I guess the ProVoice option is better than nothing.
But for me personally, they might as well have released an AEGIS digital voice upgrade.

Now, I would probably drop a grand if they offered OpenSky decoding. Unfortunately, that is a proprietary protocol. If anyone ever reverse engineers OpenSky there may be a way to listen to it through something like DSD+, but last I heard DSD+ developers didn't have the means to reverse engineer it.

OpenSky is protected very well as there are means in place to resist even passive monitoring using OpenSky capable radios.

As far as the voice quality on OpenSky, it is very good.
I use an OpenSky system. To the naysayers that claim the system does not work I'll be glad to record a video making some test transmissions using Harris O/S equipment and you can see for yourself.

 

[highwayman1224]

All the what about me cry babies you need to think about the people that got left out of the scanner market from day one in the digital market. This dates back to the release of the 785D followed by the PRO96 these people got left out that had PRO VOICE now they have been addressed a little late but they get their systems and all you cry babies can think about is yourself I pray you are not first responders that will turn your back on your brother first responders because all you can do is think about yourself.

LMAO!! Really?!

 

[BoxAlarm187]

...I pray you are not first responders that will turn your back on your brother first responders because all you can do is think about yourself.

Um, what? What does my employment in the fire service have to do with decade-old Uniden scanners?

 

[buddrousa]

You have shown all you care about is yourself i would not trust you with my life

 

[Ed6698]

This is good maybe the competitor can succeed where they have failed.

I think the competitor will see or already has, that there is no reason to even explore adding ProVoice.

 

[BoxAlarm187]

You have shown all you care about is yourself i would not trust you with my life

Hmmm...my past scanner purchases reflect on my patient care skills? Not sure I follow...

 

[Citywide173]

I think the competitor will see or already has, that there is no reason to even explore adding ProVoice.

But, the message has been sent that the bar is being raised. ProVoice was hopefully just an entry into the additional digital mode realm. Proof of concept if you will. It is also EOL, which means that licensing fees were most likely less of a gamble than some other formats, and a good jumping off point.

There may be no reason for the competitor to add ProVoice, but there is an incentive to beat Uniden to another, more popular mode, and that same incentive applies to Uniden to keep ahead of the competition.

 

[buddrousa]

Go cry and think only about yourself while I worry about others and the my crew.

 

[buddrousa]

Atleast I can use my BCD536HP on my Android Phone For Free. Great Graphics and Sound my Android App works great.
Best of all no port forwarding to have to deal with.