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XG-100P Battery Life

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Anyone have battery not latching in radio?Just bought a used harris battery off ebay.
looks fine .However it just wont click and stay on 100 p.Wont lock in place.
Seller says his battery is fine its my radio.Well my other harris battery locks in place.
I had a battery with this problem and trimmed down some little rubber bumpers on the back of the battery and now it latches fine.
 

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I had a battery with this problem and trimmed down some little rubber bumpers on the back of the battery and now it latches fine.
Is that one of your batteries from CutRate Inc? None of my Harris batteries have rubber plugs that protrude at all.
 

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It's the XG-100P that's the problem. Battery fitment is a well known issue with these. Those batteries were originally made for the Com-Net Ericsson/M/A-Com 700P/Pi radios. The same battery design was used for the later M/A-Com/TYCO/HARRIS P7100/5100 and P7200/5200 radios as well and they fit those radios without these issues that the XG-100P has. HARRIS adopted the same battery style, for some reason, for their own XG-100P radio (before acquiring the beforehand mentioned companies public safety radio division) but apparently didn't design the frame properly enough to fit these style batteries without fitment issues.
 
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I had a battery with this problem and trimmed down some little rubber bumpers on the back of the battery and now it latches fine.
Are these the bumpers?
 

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It revolves mostly around the metal tabs on the bottom of the radio. As mentioned above, the QC on these radios was just not there, so they varied wildly from radio to radio on the battery fitment. If the tabs are off, the batteries can get stuck or won't latch properly. We would have to bend (more like "tweak") them in or out to "calibrate" them to fit the various batteries that we use. Just be VERY careful when tweaking them as they do not bend very far at all before they break off. Out of the 100's that I tweaked, I only broke two. It takes very little movement to notice an improvement. Our reason for tweaking was due to the batteries getting stuck, which would occur when a user dropped their radio, bending the tabs. We had a method to remove stuck batteries that was non-destructive, but end-users would typically destroy the batteries, trying to remove them.
 

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Those aluminium tabs do break easily when trying to bend them back into shape.
 

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Is there one of these VC4000 chargers that DOES fit an XG100P in it like the picture shows? Anybody know the proper model number?
If the charger can accept both the 100P and 200P radios that part number is XL-CH4W (14035-4100-01) Charger,Vehicular,VC4000

Charger part numbers from New London Tech web page

You could call them and see if they can provide a part number for the 100P chargerand let us know.

another pix
 

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Does the XL200P have the same chassis (or at least chassis shape) as the XG100P? If not I don't know if the XL-CH4W will work. Did you see the 12082-0318-01? I believe that may be the one. I've submitted an inquiry.
 

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the 100P and 200P chargers are NOT the same, the radios are different sizes, the batteries have different pins.
VC4000 for the XL series is 14035-4100-01
VC4000 for the XG100P is 12082-0318-01
 

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Does the XL200P have the same chassis (or at least chassis shape) as the XG100P? If not I don't know if the XL-CH4W will work. Did you see the 12082-0318-01? I believe that may be the one. I've submitted an inquiry.
Looks as if the 12082 model is the correct version of the VC-4000 for the 100P.

I bought a couple of "older" new in the box model VC4000s CH-017231-002 Rev-B to use as 12v input battery-only chargers in the car. These are tri-chemistry and accept the batteries from the 100P with four contacts including LiIons with the extra guide fins. The -001 is for batteries with 5 contacts.
 

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It's not special but this doc is for people collecting all they can find on the 100P. It was put together by a fire department in Fresno, California.
 

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