American Electric Power (AEP) P25 WACN 92715

[west-pac]

Hartford City, IN (Blackford county) site.

Site: 45.45
CC: 855.9125
NAC: 02D
Network: 92715.1F5
Neighbor list:
42.42 CC=0-255 854.1875
46.46 CC=0-293 854.6625
48.48 CC=0-549 857.8625
41.41 CC=0-489 857.1125
43.43 CC=0-451 856.6375
44.44 CC=0-261 854.2625

 

[gtaman]

I’m assuming they are building 7 networks again. Similar to the EDACS system

 

[mtindor]

I’m assuming they are building 7 networks again. Similar to the EDACS system

Yes. But at least this time they will all be one system in the DB instead of a gazillion scatterbrained EDACS systems

And, it looks like the beast is awakening, Covid be damned. Hopefully we keep getting more and more reports of new sites.

 

[mtindor]

Nice progress in the past day or two for Indiana wow. Database has three IN sites, Wiki lists all the ones below (since some need confirmed)

1F5-40.40 Ft Wayne (Allen)          - needs confirmed with alt CCs, NAC, peers, peer-freqs
1F5-41.41 Decatur (Adams)           - needs confirmed with alt CCs, NAC, peers, peer-freqs
1F5-42.42 Lafontaine (Huntington)   - confirmed
1F5-43.43 Bluffton (Adams)          - confirmed but need alt CCs, NAC, peers, peer-freqs
1F5-44.44 Bryant (Jay)              - needs confirmed with alt CCs, NAC, peers, peer-freqs
1F5-45.45 Hartford City (Blackford) - confirmed
1F5-46.46 Fairmount (Grant)         - needs confirmed with alt CCs, NAC, peers, peer-freqs
1F5-48.48 Muncie (Delaware)         - needs confirmed with alt CCs, NAC, peers, peer-freqs

 

[gtaman]

Also a tidbit of info. This is the firm building the system

Project Experience

Web Site Creator Description

www.amk-services.com

 

[mtindor]

Also a tidbit of info. This is the firm building the system

Project Experience

Web Site Creator Description

www.amk-services.com

Cool. All I can say is that although I don't wish I were the project manager, I do wish I was on the team. And it looks like they have their hands in quite a few new Harris P25 buildouts. I imagine the Western Ohio one is the Ohio portion of Duke's buidlout, and the Carolinas stuff may be Duke also..

M

 

[gtaman]

Cool. All I can say is that although I don't wish I were the project manager, I do wish I was on the team. And it looks like they have their hands in quite a few new Harris P25 buildouts. I imagine the Western Ohio one is the Ohio portion of Duke's buidlout, and the Carolinas stuff may be Duke also..

M

it looks like they upgraded the Dayton Power and Light OPEN SKY system recently.

 

[mtindor]

it looks like they upgraded the Dayton Power and Light OPEN SKY system recently.

Ok, that makes more sense than Duke -- since DUke is another vast system across multiple states. I didn't even think of DPL.

 

[nd5y]

Good band opening this morning. Got a weak cc on 854.2625 for a few minutes. It's probably FCC Callsign WPCB295 (AMERICAN ELECTRIC POWER SERVICE CORPORATION)

92715-1F9
RFSS 032 Site 032
NAC 020
854.2625 pri
856.4125 alt
857.3125 alt

Shows these neighbors
023-023 854.0625
026-026 854.7125
028-028 857.8375

None of those are in the db.
They are probably south and southwest of Tulsa judging by the license locations in OK.


In the OH-WV area when the new P25 system came on line how did the P25 site numbers match up with the EDAC site numbers?

 

[mtindor]

Good band opening this morning. Got a weak cc on 854.2625 for a few minutes.

92715-1F9
RFSS 032 Site 032
NAC 020
854.2625 pri
856.4125 alt
857.3125 alt

Shows these neighbors
023-023 854.0625
026-026 854.7125
028-028 857.8375

None of those are in the db and I'm not sure yet if they are in OK or TX.
They are probably south and southwest of Tulsa judging by the license locations.


In the OH-WV area when the new P25 system came on line how did the P25 site numbers match up with the EDAC site numbers?

In OH/WV, so far, the EDACS / P25 site numbers really did not match up at all.

Thanks for the update!

Mike

 

[mtindor]

None of those are in the db.
They are probably south and southwest of Tulsa judging by the license locations in OK.

Incidentally, if you look in your DSDPlus.P25Data file (assuming you are running recent version of DSDPlus), for Site 32.32 you will see some lines like this:

Site: 32.32 NAC=???

Neighbor: 92715.1F?-23.23
Neighbor: 92715.1F?-26.26
Neighbor: 92715.1F?-28.28

I concur with you that all the neighbor sare likely in 1F9, but you can verify that if you look in your DSDPlus.P25Data file or your Event Log (if you do log).

In OH/WV, the site numbers of EDACS vs P25 really didn't jive at all. So I wouldn't count on that.

1F9-32.32 Weleetka OK (Okfuskee) - confirmed, added to DB

This site lists 23.23, 26.26 and 28.28 as neighbors.

1F9.23.23 Henryetta (Okmulgee) - last known CC: 846.0625 - site needs confirmation by direct monitoring

1F9.26.26 ?? - last known CC: 854.7125
- Seminole OK (Seminole) - likely (closest)
- Vinita OK (Craig) - not a chance
- Ft Cobb (Caddo) - could be but highly unlikely due to its distance from Weleetka

1F9.28.28 ?? - last known CC: 857.8375
- Lawton (Comanche) - could be
- Grove (Delaware) - no chance
- Poteau (Le Flore) - could be
- Idabel (McCurtain) - could be but highly unlikely due to its distance from Weleetka
- Mcalester (Pittsburg) - could be

Google Map

 

[nd5y]

I'm running the public version of Unitrunker.

Yeah 26 is probably Seminole, 28 is probably McAlester and 23 is probably Henrietta.
Probably not Lawton or Ft. Cobb. Those are too close and I would have logged them before.
Still no new P25 CCs in Western OK or NW TX that I can tell.

 

[mtindor]

I'm running the public version of Unitrunker.

The Fast Lane version really is so much better. Are you willing to shoot me an email (@gmail.com) or PM me?

Mike

 

[mtindor]

The Fast Lane version really is so much better. Are you willing to shoot me an email (@gmail.com) or PM me?

Mike

I'm an idiot. I thought you said you were using the free version of DSDPlus. But you said Unitrunker. Sorry about that Ignore my comment above.

Mike

 

[west-pac]

I've never monitored a Phase 2 system on Unitrunker, is that even possible? On my Phase 1 state-wide system it shows a 65536 TG on the CC, do Phase 2 systems do that as well? I'm currently monitoring 1F5 045, but it's not showing any TG on the CC. Just curious if I'm monitoring Phase 2 correctly.

 

[nd5y]

I've never monitored a Phase 2 system on Unitrunker, is that even possible?

I only use Unitrunker for control channel logging with discriminator audio. It works fine for that on Phase 2 systems. If you are using it on an SDR dongle to listen to audio then I don't know how that works.

On my Phase 1 state-wide system it shows a 65536 TG on the CC, do Phase 2 systems do that as well?

65536 is a fake talkgroup ID for BSI (Base Station Identification). It has nothing to do with Phase 2. Some systems have it and some don't. On some systems it is active continuously and other is only happens for a few seconds when the CW ID is sent on a voice channel. That usually happens every 30 minutes.

 

[west-pac]

I only use Unitrunker for control channel logging with discriminator audio. It works fine for that on Phase 2 systems. If you are using it on an SDR dongle to listen to audio then I don't know how that works.

65536 is a fake talkgroup ID for BSI (Base Station Identification). It has nothing to do with Phase 2. Some systems have it and some don't. On some systems it is active continuously and other is only happens for a few seconds when the CW ID is sent on a voice channel. That usually happens every 30 minutes.

Thanks. I use Unitrunker with an SDR just for logging towers, freqs, TGs, and UIDs. I use scanners for listening to the audio I'm watching on UT.

 

[mjdewey]

AEP P25 system
Decatur, IN cc 857.1125 site 41
Winchester, IN cc 854.2125 site 47
Bryant, IN cc 854.2625 site 44

 

[mtindor]

AEP P25 system
Decatur, IN cc 857.1125 site 41
Winchester, IN cc 854.2125 site 47
Bryant, IN cc 854.2625 site 44

So you are saying that you actually picked those three up directly with your scanner and got them to display the SYsid/Site ID?

Mike

 

[mtindor]

AEP P25 system
Decatur, IN cc 857.1125 site 41
Winchester, IN cc 854.2125 site 47
Bryant, IN cc 854.2625 site 44

I updated the wiki (which is where sites not confirmed by direct monitoring and sites that need more info go). I'll add those three sites to the DB shortly.

Thanks!

Mike