Audio Delay

[jeffoli]

Curious if there is a way to delay my audio bu thirty minutes?

 

[Deziel0495]

Curious if there is a way to delay my audio bu thirty minutes?

The usual delay is about 10-30 seconds. Curious as to why you would want such a long delay?

 

[jeffoli]

I can't say at this point sorry.

 

[kendrik578]

Sorry, we don't delay feeds that long.

If your worried about what comes across your feed then maybe the premium feature would be something to look into.

 

[rckydenver]

Darn, I was wanting to listen to your feed but its down. Thought something interesting was going on.

Oh Well.

 

[longreach]

Hi all, Im curious on why such a delay, the futherest mine had been is about a 2 minute delay and i found it frustrating. why 30 minutes??
cheers
Matt

 

[n5ims]

Give the guy a break. This is a legitimate question that may be needed for several reasons and the user may want to seperate this question from the near certain discussion on why a delay may be forced upon them, if that were to be the case.

He may have been asked to take the feed down or at least include a delay. When he's ready to provide the details, I'm sure he will. Adding a delay is a reasonable compromise between no feed (what a PD may want) and a someone that wants to create that stream (an official stream possibly).

 

[ffexpCP]

I'm also looking for a way to add a delay. Not quite 30 minutes, maybe 5 or 10.

I want to create another feed, but without a delay it will NOT happen.

 

[rdale]

Sorry, we don't delay feeds that long.

If your worried about what comes across your feed then maybe the premium feature would be something to look into.

That says beta testing til August 2010, is that a bad sign that it's still not available?

 

[kendrik578]

That says beta testing til August 2010, is that a bad sign that it's still not available?

No, we are just trying to make sure we have it just right. Better to be behind schedule and get it right than for it to be buggy. Its going pretty well and i would expect it to be release soon.

 

[gmclam]

Curious if there is a way to delay my audio bu thirty minutes?

Yes. You'll need software to do that for you. At this time, I cannot help you with specific software for the task.

 

[webstar22]

Give the guy a break. This is a legitimate question that may be needed for several reasons and the user may want to seperate this question from the near certain discussion on why a delay may be forced upon them, if that were to be the case.

He may have been asked to take the feed down or at least include a delay. When he's ready to provide the details, I'm sure he will. Adding a delay is a reasonable compromise between no feed (what a PD may want) and a someone that wants to create that stream (an official stream possibly).

This is likely the reason. I would think RR would give this option to people. Most broadcasters will do it in real time but I am sure there are requests/reasons delays need to happen.

Streaming scanners are becoming even more popular with mobile devices. I've seen two TV shows as of late making fun of the fact you can listen to scanners on a Iphone for 1.99.

It shouldn't be too hard to write a buffer into a streaming program. Audio goes into the buffer for x amount of time and then get pushed to the server.

 

[richtidd]

This is likely the reason. I would think RR would give this option to people. Most broadcasters will do it in real time but I am sure there are requests/reasons delays need to happen.

Streaming scanners are becoming even more popular with mobile devices. I've seen two TV shows as of late making fun of the fact you can listen to scanners on a Iphone for 1.99.

It shouldn't be too hard to write a buffer into a streaming program. Audio goes into the buffer for x amount of time and then get pushed to the server.

The problem is RR Live audio feeds would no longer be live.
Those feeds would be a "tape delay" type feed.

Even if the feed is labled as a "delayed" feed, listeners may now know or understand that the action they are hearing took place in the past.

Best is those feed owners that have this issue should go to the new Premium feed option when it becomes available. This way then can determine who listens vs when they are listening.

 

[gmclam]

This is not your daddy's live

The problem is RR Live audio feeds would no longer be live. Those feeds would be a "tape delay" type feed.

The feeds here are presently not "live", at least no more than what we're talking about. As I sit and listen to my scanner and the same audio from RR, I hear it from my scanner anywhere from 15 seconds to 2 minutes before I hear it from RR. There is a delay in encoding, streaming, transporting and decoding.

Anyone who works in "live" television broadcasting now knows that what is "live on the air" is delayed quite a bit by what we were accustomed to in the good old analog days. Back then the delay was measured in milliseconds. Now the delay is measured in seconds.

Considering the number of issues out there with criminals using iPhones and similar devices to listen to the police "live", a delay of even a couple of minutes would make their effort backfire and not make the streams on RR any less "live" than they already are.

 

[rdale]

A 30 minute delay would make feeds useless. I don't see how you can compare a 30 second encoding delay and a half-hour intentional delay.

 

[n5ims]

A 30 minute delay would make feeds useless. I don't see how you can compare a 30 second encoding delay and a half-hour intentional delay.

Useless is pretty strong. It would pretty much depend upon just how much outside information you had on the situation at hand. Watching it out your window and listening to a delayed feed would be noticed while listening to one where this first hand information isn't available one probably wouldn't notice the delay in most cases (e.g. listening to a feed of your PD back home and hearing your uncle Larry get pulled over, would you really notice it was at 2:30 PM and not 3:00 PM?).

If you're watching a baseball game in the stadium and listening to the same game over the normal broadcast feed, the 6 - 8 second delay is quite irritating, however if you can't actually watch the action live it isn't even noticed.

Most users listening on their iPhone to a police chase where they don't have any other reference on the action (TV, live news/traffic reports, out their window, etc.) would most likely be just as excited to catch the action as they would if it was 'live'. To them, it pretty much would be live.

 

[webstar22]

Yes, you are streaming it doesn't need to be realtime.

 

[gmclam]

A 30 minute delay would make feeds useless. I don't see how you can compare a 30 second encoding delay and a half-hour intentional delay.

I am using "extreme" values on purpose to make a point. A 30 second delay is NOT live. There are some feeds, like air traffic, where the stream should with the least amount of delay an no one (I think) is going to complain. But when it comes to a more sensitive stream, it is either don't stream at all, or incorporate a significant delay so that the stream is of no use to evaders, bad guys, etc.

 

[jasonpeoria911]

Putting a time delay on a feed is possible and has already been done with the Republican Convention in Minneapolis a few years ago when that feed was on ScanAmerica. Gordon was contacted by the FBI or someone and they demanded it be shutdown or delay put on. I think Gordon set that feed to a 1.5 hour delay but i'm not sure how much resources it would use with a delay on a feed.

Jason

 

[webstar22]

I would think it's should be simple for the devs of the streaming apps to do this. Have live audio feed into a buffer and then the buffer goes out over the feed. the bigger the buffer the longer the delay.

For all anyone knows this could already be in some apps and there would be no way for people to know.