BCD536HP Discussion Thread

[biomedbob]

This may oversimplify or be totally wrong, but my one profile includes all service types.

Then whatever favorite list is enabled, only the associated service types are active.

Seens to work!

kf4br

 

[bee]

Where do i go, to down load the sentinel for the 536HP.

Thanks

 

[wise871]

It's at the very beginning of this topic there are links to download the manual and software


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[KE4ZNR]

Where do i go, to down load the sentinel for the 536HP.

Thanks

Check out the very first post of this thread, the BCD436HP thread, or the Sentinel
Software thread. All of the important links are contained within.

FOLKS: please take a little bit of effort and read through some of the thread starting
at the beginning. Most of the questions that are being asked have been answered already.

Thanks!

Marshall KE4ZNR

 

[03msc]

Check out the very first post of this thread, the BCD436HP thread, or the Sentinel
Software thread. All of the important links are contained within.

FOLKS: please take a little bit of effort and read through some of the thread starting
at the beginning. Most of the questions that are being asked have been answered already.

Thanks!

Marshall KE4ZNR

Wondering if the titles could be edited to say "READ 1ST POST 1ST" or something at the end? I know people don't like to read all the pages but as you say, some of it is in the first post. Just a thought...

 

[Jay911]

I appreciate your help, but I don't see where it allows me to "select all". Is that in the extreme version or something?

Unless I somehow never set up my fav list properly, it ain't workin.

I have several lists under the favorites category, so maybe that's where I might be confused by your "how many" query.


Either way, the popup box only allows me to "highlight" one part of the fav list at a time.

I don't have access to my computer right now so I can't do screen shots. But if you don't see a select all option, just select them all one at a time. You can export the whole favorites list that way.

 

[hiegtx]

I don't have access to my computer right now so I can't do screen shots. But if you don't see a select all option, just select them all one at a time. You can export the whole favorites list that way.

You have both a "Select All" and a "Clear All" button for choosing the systems to export to an *.hpe file from an existing Favorites list.

 

[scantime]

The problem with that concept is that service tags/types don't do a simple "avoid" on the channels you haven't selected, at least, not at the user level. When you change which service types you want to listen to, the scanner reloads the entire database - full db and favorites. My assumption on this is that it's bringing in data from the storage memory into the working memory that it uses for scanning, and it only pulls in what matches the service types you have selected, to save on overhead and processing time while actually scanning.

You make some good points I hadn't considered. My knowledge of this stuff is limited, but it would seem to me that it only loads channels matching the service types enabled in your profile, and that they're pulled from whatever repository you're using (full DB, fave or both), and the scanner will only stop on the channels that aren't avoided.

On my HP1, the procedure is Menu>Select Service Types, then tap the ones I want to change (add or remove from scanning), then Accept. From the point I hit accept to the point I am scanning again is about another 10 seconds, depending on how big an area I'm scanning (receive range, full db vs favorites lists, and how big those favorites lists are). So even if you are quick about it and only take 3 seconds to go in and quickly tap on the one service type you want and hit Accept, you're still going to take 13 seconds to change service types and resume scanning.

True, and it's really more a matter of convenience, or less key strokes to get you there and back accurately.

If you allowed all/any 39 service types to be turned on and off just by a single keypress (or key combination since there are far more than could fit in a simple 0-9 entry), the radio would still take ~10 seconds to react to each keypress (and by "react" I mean get back to scanning). If you're looking to shut off all but one service tag, and you have most of them on, that's ~30 keypresses x 10 seconds each... see where I'm going?

Well, it could be similar to QK's that we assign to sites on the x96's, where there is a limited number. So say you have 99 different profiles, all with a different selection of service types where any one of them can be applied with the push of a couple of buttons without a computer. Again, it's about convenience and flexibility. Believe me, with only one favorite, I wouldn't consider having 99 different profiles. But it would be nice to have a few available on the scanner through the use of QK's for convenience's sake.

Your idea has merit but, if I can make assumptions on what the beta testers and engineers were thinking (I'm, of course, neither), it's more efficient to just go into a menu and select your service types and hit accept.

You're pretty sharp with this stuff and may be accurate in your assessment, but Uniden obviously sees benefit in having multiple profiles, otherwise they wouldn't have built the support into Sentinel. They just need to find a way to store them on the scanner IMO so that people who would like to take more advantage of them, can.

 

[phask]

You make some good points I hadn't

You're pretty sharp with this stuff and may be accurate in your assessment, but Uniden obviously sees benefit in having multiple profiles, otherwise they wouldn't have built the support into Sentinel. They just need to find a way to store them on the scanner IMO so that people who would like to take more advantage of them, can.

HP-1/Sentinel user since day 1.

Anybody feel free to correct me,but I have found absolutely no use for multiple profiles. Only usage I could see is if you are reaching a max amount of favorites or have so many it's hard to navigate.


Or you program multiple radios with different requirements or usage.

FWIW - I have 2 HP1 and use the same profile for both.

 

[TedRHayes]

HP-1/Sentinel user since day 1.

Anybody feel free to correct me,but I have found absolutely no use for multiple profiles. Only usage I could see is if you are reaching a max amount of favorites or have so many it's hard to navigate.


Or you program multiple radios with different requirements or usage.

FWIW - I have 2 HP1 and use the same profile for both.

I personally like multiple profiles, but only if they could be stored and changed on the scanner without the need of the Sentinel software. Unfortunately, the HP-1 (and the the BCD536HP and BCD436HP) can only have one profile loaded at a time; while Sentinel can store multiple profiles on your computer, Sentinel (and thus a connected computer) must be used to change the profile on your scanner.

The V-Scanner method employed on the PSR-800 allows you to essentially change your profile without the use of an attached computer; that would be desirable on the Uniden scanners. (Note: I'm not saying the V-Scanner method is perfect; it too has limitations I don't care for.)

I have found over my many years of scanning with many different radios, that I operate my scanner (or scanners if I'm able to employ more than one at a time) in several different "Modes". I will generally operate with wide coverage to get a general sense of surrounding activity. When certain events happen, I'll often try to focus on that activity. While the capability to "Hold" on a System or Department is a great improvement over previous scanners, it often isn't adequate. I'd like to be able "rapidly" switch (i.e., only requiring limited key strokes and time) to a specific subset of the Systems/Services Types.

Having multiple profiles dynamically available on the scanner would allow me to switch modes more quickly as needed. While it can be argued I could accomplish much the same with multiple Favorites Lists, that approach also has limitations. Many of my "modes" would have overlapping systems and require a lot of duplication. While this is not a space issue, it is a data management issue; especially since systems in a user's Favorites List are not automatically updated.

I'll get off my soap-box,

Ted

 

[UPMan]

The V-Scanner method is patented. The method used with the HP series does not practice that art.

 

[scantime]

I personally like multiple profiles, but only if they could be stored and changed on the scanner without the need of the Sentinel software. Unfortunately, the HP-1 (and the the BCD536HP and BCD436HP) can only have one profile loaded at a time; while Sentinel can store multiple profiles on your computer, Sentinel (and thus a connected computer) must be used to change the profile on your scanner.

The V-Scanner method employed on the PSR-800 allows you to essentially change your profile without the use of an attached computer; that would be desirable on the Uniden scanners. (Note: I'm not saying the V-Scanner method is perfect; it too has limitations I don't care for.)

I have found over my many years of scanning with many different radios, that I operate my scanner (or scanners if I'm able to employ more than one at a time) in several different "Modes". I will generally operate with wide coverage to get a general sense of surrounding activity. When certain events happen, I'll often try to focus on that activity. While the capability to "Hold" on a System or Department is a great improvement over previous scanners, it often isn't adequate. I'd like to be able "rapidly" switch (i.e., only requiring limited key strokes and time) to a specific subset of the Systems/Services Types.

Having multiple profiles dynamically available on the scanner would allow me to switch modes more quickly as needed. While it can be argued I could accomplish much the same with multiple Favorites Lists, that approach also has limitations. Many of my "modes" would have overlapping systems and require a lot of duplication. While this is not a space issue, it is a data management issue; especially since systems in a user's Favorites List are not automatically updated.

I'll get off my soap-box,

Ted

Exactly, Ted, and well said. It's a worthy idea IMO.

 

[SCPD]

Whats a good online company to reserve one of these

 

[nr2d]

Is anyone out at CES 2014 to see if Uniden has the new scanners on display?

 

[UPMan]

We are only here for private meetings in our suite. No public booth.

 

[Jay911]

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[dispatcher812]

Is anyone out at CES 2014 to see if Uniden has the new scanners on display?

Scanner master. Click the link at the top of the page.

 

[AuntEnvy]

That's how I got to asking this question.

I don't have access to my computer right now so I can't do screen shots. But if you don't see a select all option, just select them all one at a time. You can export the whole favorites list that way.[/QUOTE

I was giving the new x36 sentinel a test run and wondered why there wasn't a "select all" option.

So now I'm wondering what's wrong with my software because people are saying there is that option. I don't see where it would be.

I must be doing something wrong...

 

[AuntEnvy]

Must be the extreme version

You have both a "Select All" and a "Clear All" button for choosing the systems to export to an *.hpe file from an existing Favorites list.

I'm not getting that in my program...

 

[kd7eir]

I'm not getting that in my program...

Click on FILE -> Export to .hpe file. Select Favorites List

Click OK, Select Systems window comes up, bottom left corner Select All, Clear All