California Radio Interoperable System (CRIS)

[phipac]

@phipac: This is what I see in the Now Playing Details tab in SDRTrunk 0.5.0-alpha6 under java 1.8.0_281 on Win10 sees when I added just the control channel (770.44375) and hit the Play button (i.e. normal offsets), both for the site's channels and in the bandplan. Try removing and re-adding the playlist. Looks like the bandplan got corrupted.

You are correct - thank you.

 

[Outerdog]

BTW, does anyone know that the Opcode=5 and Opcode=9 messages are,

0x05 and 0x09 are Motorola opcodes (MFID = 0x90).

'0': 'MOT Add Patch Group',
'1': 'MOT Del Patch Group',
'3': 'MOT Patch Voice Channel Grant Update',
'4': 'MOT Unknown',
'5': 'MOT Traffic Chan Stn ID',
'6': 'MOT Unknown',
'7': 'MOT Unknown',
'8': 'MOT Unknown',
'9': 'MOT System Load',
'0a': 'MOT Unknown',
'0b': 'MOT Control Chan Base Stn ID',
'0c': 'MOT Unknown',
'0d': 'MOT Unknown',
'0e': 'MOT Planned Control Channel Shutdown'
// 0f through 3f = unknown

 

[kg6nlw]

I just submitted an update to the CRIS system for Mt. Saint Helena. Per DSD+

P25 Site: BEE00.9D2-1.13 NAC:9DD

1-1312 770.20625 is the Control Channel
1-1430 770.94375 is the Secondary Control Channel
1-1846 773.54375 is the Secondary Control Channel
1-1890 773.81875 is the Secondary Control Channel

Also listed but not as Control Channels are:
3-1964 774.28125-1
3-1965 774.28125-2

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[ECPD279]

Site 18 is on line - Unknown North Bay Location
NAC: 9D8

1-1350 770.44375 CC
1-1770 773.06875 scc
1-1850 773.56875 scc
1-1928 774.05625 scc

Maybe someone farther north can pin down the location.

 

[N6ML]

Site 18 is on line - Unknown North Bay Location
NAC: 9D8

1-1350 770.44375 CC
1-1770 773.06875 scc
1-1850 773.56875 scc
1-1928 774.05625 scc

Maybe someone farther north can pin down the location.

I'm hearing it in Brentwood. Not super-strong, but solid.

Network
  WACN:BEE00[781824] SYSTEM:9D2[2514] NAC:9D8[2520] LRA:00[0]

Current Site
  SYSTEM:9D2[2514] NAC:9D8[2520] RFSS:01[1] SITE:12[18] LRA:00[0]  STATUS:
  PRI CONTROL CHANNEL:1-1350 DOWNLINK:770443750 UPLINK:800443750
  SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:1-1770 DOWNLINK:773068750 UPLINK:803068750
  SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:1-1850 DOWNLINK:773568750 UPLINK:803568750
  SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:1-1928 DOWNLINK:774056250 UPLINK:804056250
  STATION ID/LICENSE:

Neighbor Sites
  UNKNOWN
Frequency Bands
  BAND:0 FDMA BASE:851006250 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-45000000
  BAND:1 FDMA BASE:762006250 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000
  BAND:2 TDMA BASE:851012500 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-45000000 TIMESLOTS:2
  BAND:3 TDMA BASE:762006250 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000 TIMESLOTS:2

 

[kg6nlw]

Possibly Big Rock, Mt. Tam or Sonoma Mountain? I'm not able to pick up anything that far South with ease.

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[N6ML]

Possibly Big Rock, Mt. Tam or Sonoma Mountain? I'm not able to pick up anything that far South with ease.

Where's Big Rock? It could be Sonoma Mountain or maybe Mt Tam. It's a big stronger than I'd expect for either of those (stronger than Mt Vaca, which is closer), but there aren't any obvious alternatives on the maps I've seen....

 

[kg6nlw]

Where's Big Rock? It could be Sonoma Mountain or maybe Mt Tam. It's a big stronger than I'd expect for either of those (stronger than Mt Vaca, which is closer), but there aren't any obvious alternatives on the maps I've seen....

Big Rock is the repeater site at the top of Lucas Valley Road. Big Rock Ridge is the 'technical' location name. Semi-direct line of sight to Diablo so from Brentwood it might make sense...

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[N6ML]

Big Rock is the repeater site at the top of Lucas Valley Road. Big Rock Ridge is the 'technical' location name. Semi-direct line of sight to Diablo so from Brentwood it might make sense...

OK, found it. I'm on the east side of Diablo, so anything in that area is liable to be shadowed, but maybe if it's up high enough....

The CRIS plans that I've seen show a Mt Tam site.

My money would be on Sonoma Mountain first for this one, though...

 

[kg6nlw]

OK, found it. I'm on the east side of Diablo, so anything in that area is liable to be shadowed, but maybe if it's up high enough....

The CRIS plans that I've seen show a Mt Tam site.

My money would be on Sonoma Mountain first for this one, though...

Possible as Big Rock is only 1887' but hosts both Marin County, Sonoma and CHP/State stuff for local use between Terra Linda and the SonoMarin County line. Unless someone beats me to it, I'll be back into SoCo next Thursday so I can check it out on SDR as I pass through as I have to travel right "under" the shadow of Sonoma Mountain...

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[Outerdog]

In Martinez, I'm decoding Site 18 at 100% (w/ lousy indoor antenna).

 

[kg6nlw]

In Martinez, I'm decoding Site 18 at 100% (w/ lousy indoor antenna).

Puts it in line for Big Rock or Sonoma Mountain then depending on where in Martinez as you'd be blocked by the "East Bay" hills to Mt. Tam...

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[Outerdog]

Not far from the 651 Pine St EBRCS site...

 

[kg6nlw]

Not far from the 651 Pine St EBRCS site...

Definitely lines you up for Big Rock or Sonoma Mountain then! Mt. Tam is definitely blocked for you.

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[daniel18522]

Receiving the control channel for site 18 in Concord at 95dBm with an outdoor antenna.

 

[scannerboy02]

The older CRIS maps for the bay area had Cobb Mountain, St. Helena, English Hill, Sonoma Mountain, Mt. Vaca, Mt. Tamalpais, Diablo, Sunol Ridge and Loma Prieta on them.

The new map shows Seigler, St. Helena, Mt. Vaca, Diablo and Loma Prieta and mentioned 4 additional sites planned for the area.


Is it possible that site 18 could be Diablo? That would line up with the numbering scheme they seem to be following, lower numbers to the north and higher numbers to the south.

 

[scannerboy02]

Site 18 is receivable in Sacramento (thanks to @mcjones2013) so that points me to being about 80% sure it's Diablo.

 

[kg6nlw]

The older CRIS maps for the bay area had Cobb Mountain, St. Helena, English Hill, Sonoma Mountain, Mt. Vaca, Mt. Tamalpais, Diablo, Sunol Ridge and Loma Prieta on them.

The new map shows Seigler, St. Helena, Mt. Vaca, Diablo and Loma Prieta and mentioned 4 additional sites planned for the area.


Is it possible that site 18 could be Diablo? That would line up with the numbering scheme they seem to be following, lower numbers to the north and higher numbers to the south.

I haven't seen Seigler online yet, but at the same time, it would SUPER "loud" for me, pegging my S-meter at 80 over S9. Mount Saint Helena is confirmed though as Site 13.

I'll have to see what I hear when I head back into SoCo next week.

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[scannerboy02]

I haven't seen Seigler online yet, but at the same time, it would SUPER "loud" for me, pegging my S-meter at 80 over S9. Mount Saint Helena is confirmed though as Site 13.

I'll have to see what I hear when I head back into SoCo next week.

Regards,

-Frank C.

My guess is Seigler will be site 12, it may or may not be online yet.

I also "confirmed" 13 as St. Helena while I was in the area last month so you are definitely on the money with that.

 

[scannerboy02]

To make it easier for people to find new sites I created a HPE file of all the California state 700 MHz frequencies that you can import into the Sentinel software and load into any scanner that can be programmed with that software. This will allow you to scan the frequencies along with any other favorites list you already have and if any of the frequencies become active the scanner should stop on the frequency.

I suspect they have sites online in the I-80 East and Central Coast regions that have not been discovered yet as well as some in the North Coast region.

We also have reports of a site 21 heard in Sacramento County (I-80 East?), site 36 heard in Monterey County (Central Coast?) and site 50 heard in Butte County (North Coast?) that have not been pinned down yet.