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Lindsay, do you guys have any plans to improve the Playlist creation workflow?

I ask as right now adding items to a playlist can be a bit cumbersome, especially if you're trying to update an existing playlist with new TG's.

Have you guys ever considered something like this?
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Montgomery County Ohio has a TON of stuff just waiting for you to place into a playlist so you can listen.

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The only issue with this, is that our local pd is within the talk groups here, however only adminds/feed provider can access that specific talk group.
If we can't listen to the nodes, it'd be nice to have access to the so called "hidden" talk groups.
Understandably, I know our local pd has/had asked for restrictions to access their tg
 

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Thanks and good luck with your vision.
All good.

You can look at a list of what talkgroups were captured on the entire system by clicking the "All Captured Talkgroups" link from any node.

You also still have the capability to view all calls received (and listen live) on the entire system by clicking the "Systewide Live Calls" link. The "loophole" is even still there.

But hear me out... everyone should read and take note. I respect your feedback and listen intently to it, but if you roll in here and proclaim "I know this and I'm premium and this sucks and etc" I'm not going to be inclined to listen to you. And this happens often around here. People here HATE change. It's a cancer how bad people hate it and I have to fight the urge all the time to give up in frustration. But look around. We are doing things right. And we always have. We also provide a very rare ability to let customers come in "our house" and discuss in public things they don't like, so there's going to be feedback on my end that is going to be pushback. And I will be unapologetic about it. Anyone who has worked with me knows that I can have a sharp tongue.

Everyone needs to fundementally understand the way that I operate. I will bend over backwards to help my customers, partners, everyone here, but I won't bend over forwards. The customer isn't always right, and your individual use case isn't as special as you think it is. It just isn't.

I designed and implemented this system from the ground up. We have a lot of work to do, but there is nothing else like it. My vision is clear on how this system operates and will operate going forward, and people are going to get on board or not (99% of the time you'll eventually "get it"). I can tell you that your method of listening to the system via individual nodes is woefully inadequate, not efficient, will cause you to miss significant traffic, and will strain resources on our end. I know this, because I wrote the entire codebase and I know where you're going to come up short. I'm telling you, with no doubt in my mind, that the method and process that I've put together is the right way. You're just going to have to get on board.

I will listen intently to your feedback, and use cases, as I do often miss some of the special details. But the second that you throw around that you're a premium subscriber, or a feed provider, or you've referred 1000 customers to us, I'm going to roll my eyes and discount less what you're telling me. You pay for a premium subscription or provide a feed here because you get value out of that - end of story. No value to you? Bye. Value to you? Welcome aboard the train. Got feedback? I am all ears.

Someone is going to invariably read this and say "I caNoT bElIeVe tHe CEO tAlkS tO hIs cuStoMerS LiKe this." That's fine. But I'm going to tell you like it is. Never forget my mantra: I will bend over backwards to help my customers, partners, everyone here, but I won't bend over forwards. It's the only thing that keeps me sane running this business. So please, no lectures on customer service, or language, or whatever. If you feel like you need to type something out and lecture me, just stop.

Ok, back to our regularly scheduled playlists....
 
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Lindsay, do you guys have any plans to improve the Playlist creation workflow?

I ask as right now adding items to a playlist can be a bit cumbersome, especially if you're trying to update an existing playlist with new TG's.

Have you guys ever considered something like this?
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This is excellent feedback.

my answer is "God Yes" - playlist creation right now is very cumbersome and there is significant opportunity for workflow to be streamlined much better. This is an excellent idea above. I'm definitely working on it.
 

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The only issue with this, is that our local pd is within the talk groups here, however only adminds/feed provider can access that specific talk group.
If we can't listen to the nodes, it'd be nice to have access to the so called "hidden" talk groups.
Understandably, I know our local pd has/had asked for restrictions to access their tg
Ask yourself: WHY is that talkgroup node owner only?

nm. I read the last line, smh.
 

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The only issue with this, is that our local pd is within the talk groups here, however only adminds/feed provider can access that specific talk group.
If we can't listen to the nodes, it'd be nice to have access to the so called "hidden" talk groups.
Understandably, I know our local pd has/had asked for restrictions to access their tg
If you want to track, listen, and review law enforcement tactical and talk around channels, you need to get your own scanner. We're not going to be providing them on Broadcastify calls to the general public - only the node provider has access (that's a side benefit we provide to node providers). That's just how it is.... I'm sorry.
 

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This is an awesome Idea! I have over 100 playlists I started over the past few years so anything that makes the progress of Making playlists easier is most welcome! I would love to see More Ham radio and ATC nodes. I loved listing to the airport in Flathead County Montana (and when they were up the San Antonio Texas airports via calls had them on my USA ATC playlist
 

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This is an awesome Idea! I have over 100 playlists I started over the past few years so anything that makes the progress of Making playlists easier is most welcome! I would love to see More Ham radio and ATC nodes. I loved listing to the airport in Flathead County Montana (and when they were up the San Antonio Texas airports via calls had them on my USA ATC playlist
That Flathead County node is mine. It's down, and I don't know why. And I won't be at my place in whitefish for a while. So.... what an excellent example of a case where it would be great for another node to pickup the slack... :)
 

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That Flathead County node is mine. It's down, and I don't know why. And I won't be at my place in whitefish for a while. So.... what an excellent example of a case where it would be great for another node to pickup the slack... :)
A great example to feed new nodes... Do you have any plans to put up Ham and ATC nodes in Dallas? Thank you for working on this calls update. you do a great service to the hobby
 

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@cadareev Playlists only log the last 10 minutes of calls. If nothing has been sent in the last 10 minutes, it will show blank (as pictured). It's not going to show a full list of recent calls similar to how your own node shows.
I am very aware of that. That is the problem, not for me, I understand all of it but, the people that are used to listening to my node are used to going to the node and being able to start at the bottom and catch up on all 4 frequencies I monitor instantly all at once. It could be hours or it could be 30 mins if there is a lot of traffic. Typical the calls on my node can be between 1 to 5 hours because it is not necessarily a busy feed. But it is what it is...
 

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I see your playlist there and I've made it public.


I'm going to look to use your playlist as a test to add to the Nolan County normal broadcastify page this weekend. In the mean time you can use that link to share with whomever you want.

If they want to get "caught up" they'll need to get caught up by clicking on one of the individual frequencies. Received calls for playlists are stored in memory and we only keep them in memory for 10 minutes.
Just wanted to tell you that I really do appreciate you taking the time with this, meant alot! Everyone will get used to it.
 

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I see as of this morning "my" users can go to the nodes individually again. I have a listener who messages me on Facebook every time it goes down or any time there's any kind of issue. Bless her heart 🤣
 

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Just wanted to tell you that I really do appreciate you taking the time with this, meant alot! Everyone will get used to it.
Don't forget that if they want to review ALL the past received calls they can bring up one of the 4 frequencies and all the traffic will be there like before.

Note that I travel through Sweetwater all the time on my way to Montana. I can't tell you how many times I've been through that area... so much so that I'm actually intrigued about the rattlesnake roundup and want to check it out!
 

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I see as of this morning "my" users can go to the nodes individually again. I have a listener who messages me on Facebook every time it goes down or any time there's any kind of issue. Bless her heart 🤣
I haven't changed the restrictions on playing a node. The users can go there and see the calls coming in but there isn't an ability to play them unless you are the node owner.
 

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She figured out to click on System Wide Calls* before I did. Smh.
I see as of this morning "my" users can go to the nodes individually again. I have a listener who messages me on Facebook every time it goes down or any time there's any kind of issue. Bless her heart 🤣
 

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Don't forget that if they want to review ALL the past received calls they can bring up one of the 4 frequencies and all the traffic will be there like before.

Note that I travel through Sweetwater all the time on my way to Montana. I can't tell you how many times I've been through that area... so much so that I'm actually intrigued about the rattlesnake roundup and want to check it out!
Well if you haven't, you need to. Sweetwater has a population of about 11,000 but there are 30 to 40,000 people from all over the world comes to see it. It is always the 2nd weekend in March. So, it's coming up pretty quick. There is also a big flea market and a gun, coin, and knife show too
 

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Like the "View Playlist Details" shortcut you added to the playlist player. It may be something you're planning or working on, but, because the playlist can be blank during slow traffic and because when viewing in portrait mode on a phone, the talk groups/frequencies links doesn't show, is it possible to have the talk groups/frequencies linkable to their live pages on the details page?
 

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Like the "View Playlist Details" shortcut you added to the playlist player. It may be something you're planning or working on, but, because the playlist can be blank during slow traffic and because when viewing in portrait mode on a phone, the talk groups/frequencies links doesn't show, is it possible to have the talk groups/frequencies linkable to their live pages on the details page?
Excellent idea - Done!
 
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