Camden Co., NJ - County system to go live

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Monoxide16

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hey sorry to go off topic here but on the DRPA TRS does anyone know what happen to the Maintenance talkgroups have not heard anything on them at all or did they get new talkgroups thank you 4 any info
 

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Just received this submission:

Voorhee's Police are NOT encrypted. This was varified by a radio technician, and I was their as a witness. No talkgroup on this system will be using encryption as per the system administrator with Camden County!

Based on all the posts in this thread, in particular from camco911 who is actually monitoring the system with a PSR-800, I find this submission dubious.

Before I reject the submission for being inaccurate, can you guys that are able to monitor the system with a PSR-800 (or who are tracking the system in Unitrunker, which will show encrypted traffic as P 4) just reaffirm that Voorhees PD is indeed still encrypted? Thanks!
 

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Just received this submission:



Based on all the posts in this thread, in particular from camco911 who is actually monitoring the system with a PSR-800, I find this submission dubious.

Before I reject the submission for being inaccurate, can you guys that are able to monitor the system with a PSR-800 (or who are tracking the system in Unitrunker, which will show encrypted traffic as P 4) just reaffirm that Voorhees PD is indeed still encrypted? Thanks!

The only encrypted channels that will be on the Camden County system will be all the police and both FD Hazmat channels. Everything else will be not encrypted at all.
 

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The only encrypted channels that will be on the Camden County system will be all the police and both FD Hazmat channels. Everything else will be not encrypted at all.

Yeah I understand that, but apparently the person who made the submission this morning does not. I'm looking for 110% confirmation as of the time of this post that Voorhees is indeed using full time encryption and has never been in the clear, so I can be certain that the guy who made that submission has bad info. Thanks.
 

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Thanks for the guys who messaged me to confirm that encryption is indeed being used. Submission rejected. :)
 

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Today (Saturday 4/27) I hear TGID 205 patched to Camden City Fire 1 (153.77). I'm not 100%, but I've come to believe that those other encrypted talkgroups (TGID 311, 321) are also patches to something on the police side, since just like TGID 205, those won't give me any radio ID's even though theyre encrypted.
 

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If you're only seeing a single RID on those encrypted TG's, then it's almost certainly a patch.
 

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I'm currently able to run Pro96Com on the system from my location since the bands are open,I'm seeing a radio ID of 0 for both 311 and 321 so it is in fact a patch from another channel.


"Timestamp","Type","Channel","Frequency","TG ID","TalkGroup Description","Radio ID","Radio Description"
"04/28 01:09:55","Group (Enc)","03-1474","771.21875/0"," 321","T: 101 DT: 4/28/13@1:09","0",""
"04/28 01:13:47","Group (Enc)","03-1251","769.81875/1"," 311","T: 101 DT: 4/28/13@1:06","0",""
"04/28 01:16:39","Group (Enc)","03-1911","773.94375/1"," 311","T: 101 DT: 4/28/13@1:06","0",""
"04/28 01:17:09","CWID","01-1322","770.26875","","WQOV699","",""
"04/28 01:17:42","Group (Enc)","03-1910","773.94375/0"," 311","T: 101 DT: 4/28/13@1:06","0",""
"04/28 01:20:36","Group (Enc)","03-1475","771.21875/1"," 311","T: 101 DT: 4/28/13@1:06","0",""
 
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If you're only seeing a single RID on those encrypted TG's, then it's almost certainly a patch.

Yes they are. I just compared talkgroups 311 and 321 to Camden County police Zones and noted that 311 is a patch to Police Zone 3 and 321 is a patch to Police Zone 4. This makes sense since Voorhees Police, who is strapped encrypted on talkgroup 301 may need interoperability with their neighboring departments.
 

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Is Camden City still going to be on the EDACS system come Wednesday when they get rid of the force come Wednesday was just watching the news a little bit ago could be wrong tho thanks 4 any info
 

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Might they go full time 'digital' (get confused between Provoice and Aegis) or encrypted like the rest of CC police (e.g., Voorhees)?

Amp
 

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Considering ALL police talkgroups are encrypted, the assumption would be that if dispatch was ever moved to 700, they would be also.
 

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Anyone hearing any audible on talkgroup 205 (Camden city fire) cause I'm just getting key ups but it matches when they are talking on 153.7700. Just want to make sure that I didn't program something wrong?
 

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Just to confirn you're using the PSR 800 radio with the latest firmware and DSP upgrades to monitor P25 phase 2 transmissions? When you hear tyese keyups do you see a "D2" in the upper right hand corner?
 

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Yes I am using the PSR-800. When I check for upgrades it shows everything is updated. I don't see the DG at all. I have the VC and CC frequencies displayed and like I said I get a lot of what I'm calling key ups, like there is activity just no audible.
 
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