jbadger78
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I'm only hearing bits and pieces of the traffic, I'm just wondering if there is a way to pick it up or if what I'm missing out on is encrypted. I'm scanning with a BCD396XT
Can someone help with information on KALAMAZOO COUNTY SHERIFF radio traffic?
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GeneseeCoMI
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The Sheriff's Department isn't encrypted; Kalamazoo City & Kalamazoo Township are the only ones in the county that use encryption. Are you monitoring all the towers/sites in the area, or just one? If you only monitor one site, and there are no user radios on the talkgroup which are affiliated with that site, you will not hear traffic on that talkgroup.
You should have the following sites at a minimum:
Kalamazoo City
Lakewood
Plainwell
And depending on where you are in the county, these:
Adams Park
Paw Paw
Leonidis (far SE corner)
Jones (far SW corner)
You should have the following sites at a minimum:
Kalamazoo City
Lakewood
Plainwell
And depending on where you are in the county, these:
Adams Park
Paw Paw
Leonidis (far SE corner)
Jones (far SW corner)
I'm new to this. In fact, I haven't even purchased a scanner yet.
However, can someone specifically point to where or how in the database I can see that Kalamazoo City & Kalamazoo Township are using encryption?
That is kind of a downer (for me anyways) because I travel the I-94 corridor between Paw and Kalamazoo on a daily basis and also go up to Grand Rapids via US-131 a lot so I was looking to purchase a scanner to listen to during my travels. However, if a large portion of these travel areas are encryped I'm not sure it will be worth it.
Thanks.
However, can someone specifically point to where or how in the database I can see that Kalamazoo City & Kalamazoo Township are using encryption?
That is kind of a downer (for me anyways) because I travel the I-94 corridor between Paw and Kalamazoo on a daily basis and also go up to Grand Rapids via US-131 a lot so I was looking to purchase a scanner to listen to during my travels. However, if a large portion of these travel areas are encryped I'm not sure it will be worth it.
Thanks.
GeneseeCoMI
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In the MPSCS link above, when there's a E next to the talkgroup ID, it means encryption is used on it.
Thank you. That helped a lot.
If you don't mind, help me understand this. If you go to Database > Michigan > Kalamazoo
Kalamazoo County, Michigan (MI) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
Under Kalamazoo County you will see a list of frequencies. How do these differ from MPSCS? Are they used at all? And how would you tell if they are encrypted?
As an example:
If you go Database > Michigan > Van Buren
Van Buren County, Michigan (MI) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
Under Van Buren County you will see 155.58000 Sheriff (Encrypted), however in the MPSCS under Van Buren County there isn't a single talkgroup ID that has an "E" after the ID.
Just trying to get a better understanding of what all the non-MPSCS freqs mean in the Michigan database.
Thanks.
GeneseeCoMI
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As far as I know, everything is on MPSCS and those old VHF and UHF frequencies aren't used any more.
Kalamazoo and Van Buren Counties use both MPSCS and VHF. The VHF stuff is mostly for fire. Kalamazoo County converted their old VHF law enforcement frequencies to fire use after they switched all law enforcement to MPSCS.
Whatever county you want to monitor, it's always a good idea to check both that county's page AND the MPSCS page.
Whatever county you want to monitor, it's always a good idea to check both that county's page AND the MPSCS page.
To help out the OP and the question that was asked, to help all the rest of us, since your local to that area could you go through the Kalamazoo county page and let us know of the areas that need updating? Thanks!
Kalamazoo County, Michigan (MI) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
To help out the OP and the question that was asked, to help all the rest of us, since your local to that area could you go through the Kalamazoo county page and let us know of the areas that need updating? Thanks!
Kalamazoo County, Michigan (MI) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
If and when I get a scanner. I'm sure I'll have some input to add.
This may not be what your looking for jbadger78, but it may help you out.
Look to this link that does show the Kalamazoo police at least is encrypted - aka scrambled cant listen to them.
Encrypted Agencies - The RadioReference Wiki
As you look at the MPSCS link in comment 2, under the label "Mode" if it shows E then it is listed as encrypted.
Example:
DEC HEX Mode Alpha Tag Description Tag
3440 d70 E 39LEIN Central 911 Police: LEIN Law Talk
If encrypted, very briefly you would see on the display ENC and the 396xt recognizes that and quickly just moves on scanning, all you would hear is a brief noise. If this is the case, unfortunately you're best bet is to delete or lockout out the talkgroups.
Look to this link that does show the Kalamazoo police at least is encrypted - aka scrambled cant listen to them.
Encrypted Agencies - The RadioReference Wiki
As you look at the MPSCS link in comment 2, under the label "Mode" if it shows E then it is listed as encrypted.
Example:
DEC HEX Mode Alpha Tag Description Tag
3440 d70 E 39LEIN Central 911 Police: LEIN Law Talk
If encrypted, very briefly you would see on the display ENC and the 396xt recognizes that and quickly just moves on scanning, all you would hear is a brief noise. If this is the case, unfortunately you're best bet is to delete or lockout out the talkgroups.
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jbadger78
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thanks guys, I only had plainwell, paw paw and kalamazoo city for cites. should i scan or search those?
thanks guys, I only had plainwell, paw paw and kalamazoo city for cites. should i scan or search those?
I can't answer that since I'm not familiar with the 396 series.
The Kalamazoo City site is in Oshtemo Township near US-131. The Lakewood site is at the Sheriff's Department on Lake St. The Adams Park site is between Galesburg and Climax.
The Kalamazoo City site is in Oshtemo Township near US-131. The Lakewood site is at the Sheriff's Department on Lake St. The Adams Park site is between Galesburg and Climax.
jbadger78
Member
Hi I was wondering if anybody else has been having problems monitoring Kalamazoo County Sheriff on MPSCS?
jack3726
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So another 'E' in this case
Sorry for the delayed response; I saw your PM but just wasn't able to get on here and reply.
I haven't been over to Kazoo in a while, so I haven't monitored them lately. I'll check them out with the Pro-96 as soon as I get a chance.
In checking the database, I noticed that the control channels for the Lakewood and Vicksburg sites have changed somewhat; those are 2 of the sites that I can pick up at home. I haven't been able to monitor much so far, but will definitely investigate further when I get the chance to get over to K-zoo.
vano992
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Bad news Kalamazoo County Sheriff is rumored to be encrypting it's Dipatch Trunk group In 2016. My be the first step in the new Joint Dispatch center
Bad news Kalamazoo County Sheriff is rumored to be encrypting it's Dipatch Trunk group In 2016. My be the first step in the new Joint Dispatch center
I was over in K-zoo a couple days ago, but of course forgot to take the Pro-96 with me....
I didn't pick up any sheriff traffic on the 436HP, which may be because of encryption, or because it just missed the traffic. I will make an effort to get over there with the Pro-96, after double checking that it's got the right control channels in it.
I didn't pick up any sheriff traffic on the 436HP, which may be because of encryption, or because it just missed the traffic. I will make an effort to get over there with the Pro-96, after double checking that it's got the right control channels in it.
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