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I believe Engine 17 does consists of techs. It can vary with Ladder 17 and A/L 4 as FF's don't need to be HazMat techs to run those units.
CFD Apparatus status discussion (Non-Radio Information)
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HazMat Stations are 4,17,39, all the Engines and second units in those stations are HazMat trained like: R39,L17,AL4. That's why there's 3 units in those halls. Each Station can operate as a HazMat Taskforce. Now does it work out every single day that those units all have HazMat Level 1 and 2 ff's on board? Probably not, but on paper that's how its supposed to work out
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16 is also a HazMat hall since they have the recovery, the HazMat and Decon Pods and the 16EN crew are HazMat techs IIRC.
So blue lights were not the only pilot program started by the CFD this year. Engine 12 has been outfitted with traffic cameras on every side of the rig. This is to increase FF and bystander safety and records scenes in case something were to unfortunately go wrong during a scene.
So blue lights were not the only pilot program started by the CFD this year. Engine 12 has been outfitted with traffic cameras on every side of the rig. This is to increase FF and bystander safety and records scenes in case something were to unfortunately go wrong during a scene.
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It actually runs a little differently. 4 is the only HazMat hall, where all crews are supposed to by HM trained. That includes the Engine and Air Light. Sometimes people will get bounced there without it, but most of the time they are HazMat. 17 and 39 are different. Only the HM's are trained, not R39/L17/E39/E17.
Lastly, the guys on the Recovery aren't even HazMat firefighters. The only training needed is a TDG license, so they are not actual certified HazMat guys. So Engine 16 isn't HazMat either. 16 technically has the HazMat hall there though, with the Pods and Haz Techs.
The Pod trucks are a different program, and as long as firefighters have taken that program, they can be assigned to the Pod, regardless of HM or not. Haz Techs are, of course, HazMat guys. However they are only day staff, and not full-time 24h floor staff like firefighters are.
For that big training event, it's possible that the officers were HM's who wanted to go. HazMat guys were pulled out of other halls and assigned to those trucks for the day so they could all train together. Or even they just needed extra trucks down there for certain training objectives. Hard to say, but day to day only 4 is the HM task force, and 17/39 HM are the only other actual HazMat rigs.
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So a new update. 6's "Ramp Boat" blew an engine or prop and it's now also out of service. They pulled 21 boat to 6, and now 21 only has a Boat Tow, no Jet Boat
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Yes. For the time being FRP 7 is at Station 18. It will eventually find it's way back to Station 7.
Anyone know if a Mayday was transmitted and extra units were brought in during the Legacy fire this morning when 2 FFs fell through the floor?
Anyone know if a Mayday was transmitted and extra units were brought in during the Legacy fire this morning when 2 FFs fell through the floor?
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The only communication about the Legacy fire on the feed was Engine 43 pulling up and giving a quick size up. The tac channels are not broadcasted ;/ at least the south ones are not, sometime things come across on the north channels. This maybe from a agreement between the feed provider and CFD? Do you have a run down 255-Jacobs? I imagine a higher alarm or at least a few extra Engines were brought in, hopefully those 2 injured firefighters are recovering well and will be back on the floor soon!
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Sorry it took me a bit to get the rundown. I've been busy all week.
19EN
26EN
30EN
37EN
43EN
314EN
19TW (Crew of 4)
23L (Crew of 3)
25TW (Crew of 3)
30L (Crew of 2)
25TE
26RC
39RC
39HM
2HRS
20FRP
DC1
DC3
DC6
ADC6
BATT
INV3
As you all can see it looks like Tender 25 was special called. I believe when the 2 FFs fell off the roof it brought in extra units as I guessed. I believe 314EN, 39RC, 23L, and ADC6 came in on that. Unless a 2nd alarm was called. It's still unknown if a Mayday was actually transmitted but extra units were brought in regardless.
CFD is keeping true to putting more guys on the Ladders and Towers but it seems difficult to keep it consistent. But it is still happening. Even if some shifts get 2 FFs.
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Oh wow. Either 23L is OOS again and there's no spares or maybe Rescue 12 moved to 23?
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Ladder 23 ---> Ladder 12
Rescue 12 ---> Rescue 23
This is the only move so far. Hopefully it might be the first of many.
Rescue 12 ---> Rescue 23
This is the only move so far. Hopefully it might be the first of many.
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Interesting move! The BB is still at 23? Rescue 23 will be doing more runs into east/south downtown and backing up 11 Tech. This gives Tower 25 more room to run North and hopefully a little less work for 32 going south. It's too bad CFD has had to go leaner on the fleet over the years. With all the extra firefighters coming online, it would be easy to push a spare rig into a front line position, but there is not enough spares to do that. Those new Ladders can't come soon enough!
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It’s such a good move because it makes 3 trucks busier in 1 swap. 25 gets a bigger northern district, 23 Rescue gets most of their calls on Barlow/Deerfoot/Peigan anyways, and Ladder 12 has better runs into 4, 22 and even 1's district now. Plus, it takes a bunch of calls off Ladder 1, which helps them out too
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Any thoughts on if it would be beneficial to send Tower 25 to station 9? It would put the Tower in more of a central location, easier to run into 16's, faster to get onto Macleod and push further west of they had to, at least for 12-16 months until more Ladders are added. If the Tower and Tender are fully staffed that's 10 ff's in Station 25 and only 4 in 9 Station
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I've thought the same thing, but it has a couple flaws. 25 needs a Tender, because part of their district doesn't have hydrants for some structures. So the Tender actually needs to be there, and has been forever. The Tower is also great because of the warehouses, where interior firefighting usually doesn't work, and command will commonly opt for a elevated masterstream, perfect for Tower Ladders. So 25 is actually a really good hall for those trucks.
However, I think Station wise, 9 is pretty good. Gives better coverage to 16 and northern 39 district's, and takes a tiny more bit of stress off Ladder 1. Although, 19 TW isn't bad for access anyway, as they have Bow Bottom and Anderson. So even for area's like Deer Run and Deerfoot Meadows, its not bad.
Overall, I'd love to see the TW go to 9, and with Ladder 12 moving, it is possible, but I would think they stay put at 25. Would love to hear others opinions on this though!
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Is the Tender still cross staffed by the Tower? I thought CFD went back to fully staffing the Tender and Tower. But yes I agree, 25 needs the Tender - lack of hydrants, but great location for it too, easy access across the city with Glenmore and Stoney right there. Is Tower 25 the slowest Ladder/Tower in the city?
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For busiest to slowest for Towers it goes 19, 31, 25. So yeah, 25 is the slowest tower in the city. I don't know if it's the slowest Aerial in general, but it's possible. Ladder 34 might be a tad bit slower. Tender 25 was fully staffed during the water shortage but I don't know if they went back to cross staffing.
