kf4lhp
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Really, the title should be Tennessee Valley Regional Communications System. That's the system's name on the logo the radio shop has on the city's website.
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That was a sarcastic comment...
And Considering the City Radio Admin is the person in charge for the State System, they of course have the right to post it any where they wish. But that was not my point and you know it !
You are still mixing apples and oranges.
Several of you are talking about the Chattanooga/Hamilton County Public Safety System-AA1A
And others are talking about System-2A5
Both are obviously run by the Chatt Radio shop but they are still two completely different subject matters at the moment.
I believe 2 threads should be appropriate so that people do not have to sit through this long thread and filter out the info that they want.
I believe I have a valid argument and was only making a suggestion to make this a better experience for reading the posts. And I do not appreciate your sarcasm at all.
And Considering the City Radio Admin is the person in charge for the State System, they of course have the right to post it any where they wish. But that was not my point and you know it !
You are still mixing apples and oranges.
Several of you are talking about the Chattanooga/Hamilton County Public Safety System-AA1A
And others are talking about System-2A5
Both are obviously run by the Chatt Radio shop but they are still two completely different subject matters at the moment.
I believe 2 threads should be appropriate so that people do not have to sit through this long thread and filter out the info that they want.
I believe I have a valid argument and was only making a suggestion to make this a better experience for reading the posts. And I do not appreciate your sarcasm at all.
ButchGone
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Easy123...
Please don't blow a gasket!
First, KF4LHP's posting about the name of the system wasn't meant to be sarcastic! The system really is called TVRCS according to most literature, logos, etc. As with all government projects, some paperwork may have been filled out at one point in time calling it TVRTS, some called it TVR, some call it TVRS...whatever the case may be people call it different stuff. The radio shop people even call themselves "TVR-1" "TVR-7" etc.
Also the system talked about in this thread is the first phase of Tennessee's long planned for statewide system. The state never had, and probably never will have enough money to build a statewide system on it's own.
Because of funding mechanisms in place at the federal level, people are finding out in Tennessee and other states they can get federal Homeland Security dollars by building "regional" systems that will talk to other systems on common modes - in our case it's the P25 standard. Chattanooga took the lead by planning a regional system that not only makes it easier to get federal dollars to pay for it, but will benefit users by having a more extensive network of towers. And they went a step further by covering most of eastern TN down into north Georgia. Regional systems will work together for state coverage.
The federal dollars come through Nashville (TEMA) and Chattanooga's radio shop was chosen to build it out and maintain. Most of the IR 700Mhz sites are now licensed to the State of Tennessee, so it's obvious the state will take ownership of the system outside cities like Chattanooga. Of course there are plans to build out a middle state region out of Nashville, and the western side of the state to be built out of a Memphis hub. There are two controllers for this system, one in 'Nooga and the other in Nashvegas.
Now if you want to start a separate thread about a Tennessee statewide system, please do because the more information that's out there the better we all are as hobbyists! But as of now the Chattanooga regional system is the first phase of the statewide system. The system should be all built and ready for prime time by the end of June, so now it's up to everyone to figure out local talk groups, regional groups, statewide groups and listen for state agencies to climb aboard.
As this all unfolds Chattanooga-Hamilton County services will be migrating to the TVRCS too, so there is a lot of new stuff to fish for and listen to as we keep rollin' down the road.
Happy listening!
BG..
Please don't blow a gasket!
First, KF4LHP's posting about the name of the system wasn't meant to be sarcastic! The system really is called TVRCS according to most literature, logos, etc. As with all government projects, some paperwork may have been filled out at one point in time calling it TVRTS, some called it TVR, some call it TVRS...whatever the case may be people call it different stuff. The radio shop people even call themselves "TVR-1" "TVR-7" etc.
Also the system talked about in this thread is the first phase of Tennessee's long planned for statewide system. The state never had, and probably never will have enough money to build a statewide system on it's own.
Because of funding mechanisms in place at the federal level, people are finding out in Tennessee and other states they can get federal Homeland Security dollars by building "regional" systems that will talk to other systems on common modes - in our case it's the P25 standard. Chattanooga took the lead by planning a regional system that not only makes it easier to get federal dollars to pay for it, but will benefit users by having a more extensive network of towers. And they went a step further by covering most of eastern TN down into north Georgia. Regional systems will work together for state coverage.
The federal dollars come through Nashville (TEMA) and Chattanooga's radio shop was chosen to build it out and maintain. Most of the IR 700Mhz sites are now licensed to the State of Tennessee, so it's obvious the state will take ownership of the system outside cities like Chattanooga. Of course there are plans to build out a middle state region out of Nashville, and the western side of the state to be built out of a Memphis hub. There are two controllers for this system, one in 'Nooga and the other in Nashvegas.
Now if you want to start a separate thread about a Tennessee statewide system, please do because the more information that's out there the better we all are as hobbyists! But as of now the Chattanooga regional system is the first phase of the statewide system. The system should be all built and ready for prime time by the end of June, so now it's up to everyone to figure out local talk groups, regional groups, statewide groups and listen for state agencies to climb aboard.
As this all unfolds Chattanooga-Hamilton County services will be migrating to the TVRCS too, so there is a lot of new stuff to fish for and listen to as we keep rollin' down the road.
Happy listening!
BG..
No need for the history lesson on my end. I am aware of all of this. But it still doesn't miss the fact that these are two separate systems at the present time and until both systems merg they should be treated as separate systems because the 2 systems have unique issues to discuss that shouldn't be mixed or matched in the discussions. Both systems being run by the same radio shop should have no bearing on the topic.
But if you want to get technical, lets start talking about the Athens Utl, Oak Ridge, and Knoxville Systems all on this thread...because they too are merging in the future. In the far future I predict but that's besides the point.
Im done ranting.
But if you want to get technical, lets start talking about the Athens Utl, Oak Ridge, and Knoxville Systems all on this thread...because they too are merging in the future. In the far future I predict but that's besides the point.
Im done ranting.
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So glad your done with your rant and started your on thread on the state system, this has been fine the way it is and has a lot of history about the system.As for Athens Utl, Oak Ridge, and Knoxville Systems they will take about 3 years to come on the system if they do. So take it easy Easy123
And how long do you think it will take the Chatt System to merg? Not this year...
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Merge with Knoxville? Not for a long time… State? They don’t have a P25 system to merge.
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Doesn’t work that way, P25, analog and ASTRO mixed mode trunking are 2 totally different technologies you cant just put the control channels in the radios and they will work. 700 is using C4FM on the system now and the 800 simulcast is using LSM. Its hard to put 700 Mhz into the Knoxville radios when Knoxville doesn't have any radios that will do 800 and 700 yet.
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TVRS system is 800 MHz in North Georgia and Chattanooga and 700 MHz going up 75.
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oh yes i did cant do that on the TVRS system
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Done with the subject with you... Do a little no I mean a lot of research on what a 700 / 800 P25 and ASTRO Mixed mode systems do and you will see the differences or maybe not.
Let me explain it another way.
Lets say 851.0000 is owned by Radio Crossville system ID 0001 with Analog controller
And I own System 293 with TDMA controller
If I want to expand my system all I do is come to an agreement with you that I am taking over your frequency and in turn you can use my expanded network system for a discount or whatever the agreement may be. Therefore System 0001 is discontinued and your analog controller is taken off line, we transfer the frequency to my call sign and I add your old freq. to my frequency pool. Making it part of my system.
Ta-da
PS> Similar agreements like the one above has been done across the US many times over.
Lets say 851.0000 is owned by Radio Crossville system ID 0001 with Analog controller
And I own System 293 with TDMA controller
If I want to expand my system all I do is come to an agreement with you that I am taking over your frequency and in turn you can use my expanded network system for a discount or whatever the agreement may be. Therefore System 0001 is discontinued and your analog controller is taken off line, we transfer the frequency to my call sign and I add your old freq. to my frequency pool. Making it part of my system.
Ta-da
PS> Similar agreements like the one above has been done across the US many times over.
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ButchGone
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OK, easy123, it's obvious you just want to start a fight.
Just so you know, this thread is for the Chattanooga regional P25 system, which is another way of describing the TVRCS. The thread started before this P25 regional system had an actual name.
This thread provides info and discussiuon for the development of TVRCS, which is the first phase of a statewide P25 network.
This thread has been doing fine until the venom just introduced. Please contribute postively and contructively.
Of course Chattanooga's legacy system is a completely different animal, but a question surfaced over some Bradley County talkgroups and radios which seemed to have raised your blood pressure.
Relax, take a deep breath! It's OK.
BG..
Just so you know, this thread is for the Chattanooga regional P25 system, which is another way of describing the TVRCS. The thread started before this P25 regional system had an actual name.
This thread provides info and discussiuon for the development of TVRCS, which is the first phase of a statewide P25 network.
This thread has been doing fine until the venom just introduced. Please contribute postively and contructively.
Of course Chattanooga's legacy system is a completely different animal, but a question surfaced over some Bradley County talkgroups and radios which seemed to have raised your blood pressure.
Relax, take a deep breath! It's OK.
BG..
I reply to the way I am treated. I came on here very nicely on my first post but when someone replys to my comments in a negative fashion, or posts improper information I will respond twice as hard.
And radiocrossville pretty much called me out and I had to correct it...
Your post pretty much sums it up and I will agree with that. So unless someone else posts with a smart nose comment aimed at me I will drop it and let it continue at a positive note.
Thanks Butch
And radiocrossville pretty much called me out and I had to correct it...
Your post pretty much sums it up and I will agree with that. So unless someone else posts with a smart nose comment aimed at me I will drop it and let it continue at a positive note.
Thanks Butch
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Thanks BG
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Rhea County deputies been chit chatting on 7016, and it's coming through on the Chattanooga simulcast. Wonder if they're coming through on Chatt simulcast just for testing, of if they will do this all the time. I'm sure the Evensville, Sale Creek and Roosavelt Mnt (Roane Cnty) sites are hoppin. One guy said radios just installed in Dayton Fire engines.
Getting others keying, chatting on 5502, 5506, 5521, 5522, 5523 and 5526 last couple days, no idea yet who they are.
Dade County, GA doing a lot of testing on 1 and they are also trying out new consoles at their 911.
BG..
Getting others keying, chatting on 5502, 5506, 5521, 5522, 5523 and 5526 last couple days, no idea yet who they are.
Dade County, GA doing a lot of testing on 1 and they are also trying out new consoles at their 911.
BG..
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I'm almost sure 5541 is 10th Judicial District DTF, or at least that's who was using this group. So not sure if this is a Bradley County group, or part of some region wide or statewide groups.
Walker County, GA was testing consoles at their 911 on TG 1.
Also noticed quite a bit of data channel rolling on the Chattanooga simulcast between 856.2375 and 856.7625 during last couple days.
Dade County, GA sheriff's deputies still testing their portables around the county, TG 1.
According to microwave licenses, there are still four sites for the TVRCS that have not yet gone hot on 700Mhz and don't yet have these freqs licensed: site in southeast Roane County, Greentop Mnt in Sevier County and two sites in Anderson County. Anybody know yet where the site 216 is that shows control channel of 770.55625? I would bet it's one of the four above.
BG..
Walker County, GA was testing consoles at their 911 on TG 1.
Also noticed quite a bit of data channel rolling on the Chattanooga simulcast between 856.2375 and 856.7625 during last couple days.
Dade County, GA sheriff's deputies still testing their portables around the county, TG 1.
According to microwave licenses, there are still four sites for the TVRCS that have not yet gone hot on 700Mhz and don't yet have these freqs licensed: site in southeast Roane County, Greentop Mnt in Sevier County and two sites in Anderson County. Anybody know yet where the site 216 is that shows control channel of 770.55625? I would bet it's one of the four above.
BG..
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