Chattanooga Regional P25 System

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ButchGone

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Correct, on the 996t each site has to be programmed in as it's own "system."
And depending on where you are, you will monitor one or more sites that cover your county.
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The North Bradley County P-25 site of the TVRCS is now on the air.
site ID: 02A5h-0226
769.60625 control channel
770.53125
772.38125
772.73125
773.45625

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The Rhea County P-25 site of the TVRCS is showing signal now also. My 106 is showing it as R002 and S014. Bradley Co is showing as R002 and S025 (R=region & S=site #) to my understanding!
 

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New towers

Found this on the Chattanooga City Council agenda coming up in two weeks:

7. Resolutions:

a) A resolution authorizing the Director of General Services to execute a lease with the Tennessee Valley Regional Communications System for a tower site located on Cross Mountain in an amount not to exceed $12,000.00.

b) A resolution authorizing the Director of General Services to execute a lease with the Tennessee Valley Regional Communications System for a tower site located on Windrock Mountain in an amount not to exceed $12,000.00.

Map shows this to be in Anderson County, outside of Oak Ridge.
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Here's a quick hint for Bradley County folks having Pro96 or other scanner that does not trunk 700 mHz band. Add these freqencies to your conventional Bradley County bank, along with the Oswald Dome frequencies. Set each to FM mode, turn off delay for each, and lock out the control channels. Don't plan on deleting the conventional VHF frequencies any time soon.


The North Bradley County P-25 site of the TVRCS is now on the air.
site ID: 02A5h-0226
769.60625 control channel
770.53125
772.38125
772.73125
773.45625

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Looks like the microwave site licenesees further along than the TRS ones.

Here is list of the microwave links:

Transmit Receive 1 Receive 2

WQJS555 Signal Mountain White Oak Mountain Chattanooga 911 Center
WQJS557 Chattanooga 911 Center Lookout Mountain Signal Mountain
WQJS559 * Sale Creek White Oak Mountain Evansville Mountain
WQJS561 Lookout Mountain Chattanooga 911 Center Collegedale
WQJT460 * White Oak Mountain Signal Mountain Sale Creek
WQJT461 Collegedale Lookout Mountain White Oak Mountain
WQKI727 Evansville Mountain Sale Creek Nopone Mountain
WQKI728 Oswald Dome North Bradley Starr Mountain
WQKI729 Centerville Madisonville Greentop
WQKI730* North Bradley White Oak Mountain Oswald Dome
WQKI731 Madisonville Starr Mountain Centerville
WQKI732 Starr Mountain Oswald Dome Madisonville
WQKX516* Nopone Mountain Evansville Mountain Roosevelt Mountain
WQKX531 Roosevelt Mountain Windrock Mountain Nopone Mountain
WQKX535 Windrock Mountain Roosevelt Mountain Cross Mountain
WQKX538 Cross Mountain Windrock Mountain Black Road
WQKX539 * Greentop Centerville Sharps Ridge
WQKX540 Sharps Ridge Greentop Black Road
WQKX542 Black Road Cross Mountain Sharps Ridge


Here is a google map of all of those locations:

Tennessee Valley Regional Telecommunications System - Google Maps
 

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Is every microwave location going to be a TRS location also?

If so the almost half of the sites are up(9 out of 22)

Microwave sites with no TRS site identified in the RR database:

Collegedale
Cross Mountain(near Lake City)
Greentop(between Seymour and Pigeon Forge)
Lookout Mountain
Nopone Mountain(between Decatur and Athens, TN)
Roosevelt Mountain(near Rockwood)
Signal Mountain
Starr Mountain(near Etowah)
White Oak Mountain
Windrock Mountain(near Oliver Springs)

and two of the three listed below(Does anyone know if site 2-011 Ringgold/LaFayette/Dalton from the RR database is the Dug Gap Mountain, Kittle Road, or Taylors Ridge location?)

Dug Gap Mountain is near Dalton GA
Kittle Road is between Ringgold and Tunnel Hill GA
Taylors Ridge is near LaFayette GA
 

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Great job again with the map and the paths - nice way to see how it is all looped together.
One site though still missing and it completes the microwave loop to the south, it's the Canyon Ridge site on southern Lookout Mountain that will serve southern Dade County.

ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WQKU453 - CATOOSA, COUNTY OF - Location 4

It's site 4 under the license WQKU 453, frequencies are 851.2125, 852.3375, 852.0375, 853.1625
So far I'm not seeing a license for the microwave path yet linking it to the other sites.
Yes, all sites with microwave paths also have either 700 or 800Mhz trunking.
And yes, the Ringgold, LaFayette and Dalton sites are the same as Taylor's Ridge and Dug Gap Mnt.
With the Greentop site you'r showing on the map this adds Sevier County to the list of counties with coverage.
Also, the Collegedale, Signal Mnt, White Oak Mnt and Lookout Mnt. sites are all part of the Chattanooga simulcast site #210.
Ringgold, LaFayette and Dalton are part of the NW Georgia simulcast site # 211
All other sites are stand alone trunking sites
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I dont know if this has been mentioned or asked before but wanted to give it a shot. Is there any chance this system could make it to the eastern part of Tennessee?? (Johnson City/Bristol Area) I know it would be another year of so if they decide to.
 

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It could be expanded up to Virginia and anywhere else to the west.
Just depends on who wants to jump in and who will pay for it.
Chattanooga got a federal grant to be the lead agency to build this system.
Since Washington County is building it's own P25 system, they too could expand their system and cover northeast TN. And since it's P25 that means radios from any other P25 county could be programed to "roam" in other regions. Georgia is taking this approach, where cities are building out regional systems (thus getting federal grants) with ability for others to roam. It's a side-door way of building a statewide system without the state footing the bill.
It's entirely possible Nashville, Memphis and others could one day build out regional P25 systems that would all essentially be tied together making it statewide. We'll see!
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Butch do you think that the two Knox County site will be simulcast too, since they are on the same license WQKQ451? And the same with the Centerville, Evansville, Nopone, Madisonville, and Starr Mtn sites, WQKQ452?

Is the Chattanooga 911 Center only going to have a microwave to directly tie in with the Signal and Lookout Mtns sites and no repeaters?

As an update:

Microwave sites with no TRS site identified in the RR database:

Chattanooga 911 Center(not going to have one?)
Cross Mountain(near Lake City)
Greentop(between Seymour and Pigeon Forge)
Nopone Mountain(between Decatur and Athens, TN)
Roosevelt Mountain(near Rockwood)
Starr Mountain(near Etowah)
Windrock Mountain(near Oliver Springs)

TRS site license with no microwave tie in license: Canyon Ridge
 

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The 700Mhz sites won't be simulcast like the Chattanooga and N. Georgia towers are, they are stand alone sites. Based on testing I'm hearing lately the techs have gotten the towers now on line to link together and work across a wide area. So the primary talkgroup techs use, 1, can be heard on the Chattanooga system as well as whichever 700 site the other radios are on in the outer counties.
Here's an article in Today's Times Free Press that talks about this system about halfway down, even mentions Radio Reference:

Emergency management conference focuses on agency communications
By Todd South tsouth@timesfreepress.com
Online: Hear TEMA Director James Bassham talk about mutual aid for emergency management. Comment.
When telephone poles snapped and the power grid failed for 103 Kentucky counties during a massive ice storm in January, Brig. Gen. John Heltzel called on surrounding states for help.
One state called him —Tennessee.
Speaking Tuesday at the Emergency Management Association of Tennessee conference in Chattanooga, Brig. Gen. Heltzel, who heads both the Kentucky Division of Emergency Management and the Kentucky Army National Guard, said the storm “knocked down everything in Kentucky.”
Because cell towers and other phone lines were not working in Kentucky, workers from the Tennessee Emergency Management Agency relayed reports from many Kentucky counties to the state’s emergency management personnel, TEMA Director James Bassham said.
The rural western Kentucky counties hit hardest by the storm needed extra personnel, Mr. Bassham said. Through quick phone calls, he and Brig. Gen. Heltzel coordinated the two states’ emergency management resources.
The storm affected only eight counties in northern Tennessee, and after those counties were served, TEMA was able to assist in Kentucky, Mr. Bassham said.
EMS workers arrived in Chattanooga on Monday for the annual Emergency Management Association of Tennessee conference, which will last until Thursday at the Chattanooga Convention Center.
An afternoon panel discussion brought communications experts from across the state to talk about interoperability — the ability of emergency services to reach each other on common radio frequencies.
Citing lessons from Sept. 11, 2001, panel members pointed to still-needed improvements in training and coordination that will help emergency workers talk across the state.
TEMA communications specialist John Johnson said an example of interoperability is the Tennessee Valley Regional Trunking System, an 800-mhz system that is planned to link emergency communications from North Georgia to Knoxville.
“It’s basically a management tool,” Mr. Johnson said.
The work to finish construction, equipment and training should result in smoother communication among participating agencies in the Tennessee Valley once the project is completed, he said.
The project is scheduled for completion about July 2010, according to the Radio reference.com Web site.
 

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Wow! A tech in Madisonville was talking to another tech on "1" and the Madisonville unit sounded like he was next door to my office! Then another tech called stating that he was in his driveway in Knoxville! Now that is something if it is true. Then another tech stated that he was in W. Knoxville at a shopping mall.
 
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Ahhh the joys of an APCO - 25 system when its fully wide area trunking! I love how clear the audio is most of the time.. Don't expect perfection though guys, there will be a very very few dead spots , and a few in between ares where the audio will get "robotic"...
 

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Found a new site now on the air firing a control channel on 771.63125 MHz. Site ID is showing 05Ah-224. The frequency is not licensed to anyone in TN according the the FCC database. Based on the site number and the way the numbers correspond to the way the microwave loop is going I'm guessing this is the Starr Mountain site near Etowah. Can anyone in the McMinn County area confirm this site and any other frequencies? The signal strength seemed to indicate this site is coming from an area northeast of Chattanooga.
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I have set my 996 up with each site. Today I would hear traffic on Chatt City site and nothing on Bradley North. I still dont understand all of this. Are the sites not simulcast or linked together?? I have had traffic on the North Bradley site and one of the Knoxville sites. While I was getting traffic on the Chatt City site i hit scan and lost the traffic till it went back to Chatt City site. Maybe my stupidity but I thought it would come from the nearest site????
 

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I heard one of the techs talking yesterday or the day before about having to go to correct some programming on the Walker Co radios! I haven'tpicked up any traffic on any of the other sites except for the techs on Chatt site.
 

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Take a look vias Pro96Com and see if the sites are in Site Trunking, or Wide Area Trunking! When an entire subzone is all up and the system is WAT youll hear a lot more traffic on more than say one site. And then once an entire zone is on, then the whole shebang, you'll get more and more traffic. Some parts of this system will be simulcast, others will be just linked sites, and very few will be stand alone sites with microwave links. To better understand how a statewide TRS works as to local vs statewide traffic, simulcast vs linked sites, and all the fun stuff like roaming etc... Please see the articles in the wiki, and various other threads dealing with other growing wide area TRS's. Some of the information is technical and can boggle minds, while other tidbits are actually so simple.. I have to say it... "Even a caveman can understand it.":twisted:
 
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