Cleveland National Forest New Forest Net

[Teotwaki]

I just turned a radio on and heard Helicopter 76 talking about a fire. Dispatch asked him to switch to Command 1 Tone 1 and also use CDF Tac 2. The fire is on Santiago Peak

 

[Teotwaki]

Webcams show the fire ALERTCalifornia - Santiago Peak 1

 

[Teotwaki]

Air to Ground is on 59

 

[Teotwaki]

This is when it started


and this is a few minutes ago

 

[AM909]

Looks clear now. They must have gotten a quick handle on it. Just one WT left on site that I can see:

 

[AM909]

Some time-lapses from HPWREN: north cam 2023-08-07T2100-2400L / 2023-08-08T0000-0300L; east cam 2023-08-07T2100-2400L / 2023-08-08T0000-0300L.

 

[Teotwaki]

Thanks AM909!

I’ve been hearing a steady stream of crews being released from the site. There are some rumors that the fire was deliberate and that some involved vehicles may have been spotted on cameras.

 

[AM909]

Sure was an impressive-looking and -acting response.

 

[monitor142]

Definitely handled well by the helicopter response from OCFA and the SoCal Quick Response Force (Thank you SoCal Edison for $upporting).

OCFA Copters 1 & 2
QRF Tanker 47 and Helco Copter 76

FYI, Jake Rodriguez from the CNF did send out a short message stating no damage to the radio sites. That's good news!

 

[Teotwaki]

@es93546 and @Teotwaki , looks like we should delete out the remaining 168.025 MHz Law Nets from Angeles National Forest and Cleveland National Forest, is this correct that they've been phased out and replaced with the R5 Law Net? I also added a unique line for the P25 mode for R5 Law Net using the 40B NAC.

Edit: Is the NAC 4CE? Or 40B like was stated earlier in this thread?

Tx is 4CE and Rx is 40B

 

[Teotwaki]

Fun traffic on Common 4 freq 163.7125

Two forestry vehicle heading up a muddy truck trail. The driver of the lead vehicle is going to stop and warn civilians to vacate the slippery road. Second forestry vehicle had complained of having no traction and commented "We're doomed. I'm sliding. I'm heading back down"

Conversation is continuing about efforts to gain traction, using 4WD, etc.

 

[Teotwaki]

12:40 PM PST - Comms 27 calling for Comms 29 on Cleveland Forest Net. This is a good time to listen for changes or updates to the radio repeaters!

 

[Teotwaki]

Adding Trails 25

320R
Brush 288
Comms 22, 26, 27, 28, 29
2Charles1 (supervisor?)
2Edward 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12
Engineer 325
2King 1 & 5 (canine units)
Lookout 03, 41, 50, 51 57, 62 (Palomar)
Patrol 21, 22, 23, 33, 34, 41, 42
Prevention 24
Ranger 2
Rec 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 31
Trails 21, 25
2Tom 2 (LEO Trainee)
Utility 36

 

[Teotwaki]

CNF LEO digital is pretty busy this morning. Below from Wildcad E

05/26/24 1035 CACNF-786 Law Enforcement

05/25/24 1808 CACNF-785 Law Enforcement

05/25/24 1808 CACNF-784 Law Enforcement

05/25/24 1750 CACNF-783 Law Enforcement

When Edward 1 transmits my display shows "GR 5178"

 

[es93546]

Adding Trails 25

320R
Brush 288
Comms 22, 26, 27, 28, 29
2Charles1 (supervisor?)
2Edward 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12
Engineer 325
2King 1 & 5 (canine units)
Lookout 03, 41, 50, 51 57, 62 (Palomar)
Patrol 21, 22, 23, 33, 34, 41, 42
Prevention 24
Ranger 2
Rec 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 31
Trails 21, 25
2Tom 2 (LEO Trainee)
Utility 36

2 Charles 1 stands for patrol captain, the head of law enforcement for the Cleveland. Sometimes, depending on workload more than one forest has one patrol captain. On some forests, like the Angeles, where the law enforcement workload is high the head of law enforcement is a special agent. I've never figured out how R5 Special Agent identifiers work.

 

[Teotwaki]

2 Charles 1 stands for patrol captain, the head of law enforcement for the Cleveland. Sometimes, depending on workload more than one forest has one patrol captain. On some forests, like the Angeles, where the law enforcement workload is high the head of law enforcement is a special agent. I've never figured out how R5 Special Agent identifiers work.

Thanks for the clarification! What I would also love to have is a map showing the numeric districts CNF is divided into. Many years back I was able to copy what ANF was divided into on a paper map I still have. As far as I know those ANF district numbers are obsolete. Partial section attached.



I have noticed the lat/long coordinates on Wildcad so at least I have a rough idea of the patrol areas vs unit numbers in CNF.

 

[Teotwaki]

Updating Charles description in my callsign list

320R
Brush 288
Comms 22, 26, 27, 28, 29
2Charles1 (Patrol Captain)
2Edward 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12
Engineer 325
2King 1 & 5 (canine units)
Lookout 03, 41, 50, 51 57, 62 (Palomar)
Patrol 21, 22, 23, 33, 34, 41, 42
Prevention 24
Ranger 2
Rec 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 31
Trails 21, 25
2Tom 2 (LEO Trainee)
Utility 36

 

[Teotwaki]

If I mentioned this before forgive me but... a useful way to hear more of the CNF radio traffic that's out of my area is using 406.525 MHz. Although it should be a directional link this one is very strong in Orange County. The full list of 12 link frequencies is on this page.

United States Forest Service (California) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference for United States Forest Service (California)

www.radioreference.com

BTW, there was some strong simplex traffic on Common 4 163.7125 MHz

 

[Teotwaki]

Simplex traffic on R5 Tac5 167.1125 about some sort of pumping operation

EDIT: turns out they are starting training for burn control so the hoses must have been from a fire (water pumper?) vehicle. TacR5 will be for burn control and TacR6 (168.2375) for "traffic". Wild Cad shows a number of entries for "wildfire". WildWeb

 

[Teotwaki]

Simplex traffic on R5 Tac5 167.1125 about some sort of pumping operation

EDIT: turns out they are starting training for burn control so the hoses must have been from a fire (water pumper?) vehicle. TacR5 will be for burn control and TacR6 (168.2375) for "traffic". Wild Cad shows a number of entries for "wildfire". WildWeb

The burn is along North Main Divide