smason
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Site 14 (probably Fish Creek) new control channel 866.1375
Have submitted channel list to the DB.
Have submitted channel list to the DB.
Hearing automated dispatch tests over ID 169 (new ID), along with ID 3999.
ID 169 aligns with old system ID 2704, which is CFD Voice Alerts.
ID 169 aligns with old system ID 2704, which is CFD Voice Alerts.
smason
Member
If I had $5.00 for every time I've done an "upload to scanner" from Proscan/Win500 lately...
And I only have 4 computer programmable scanners. Well 5, but the 15x doesn't do P25.
smason
Member
Had an hour wait in the parking lot at the airport. Brought my laptop and Unitrunker.
I'm pretty sure Site 16 is the airport. Have submitted the channel list.
Have not heard site 19 in a while.
I'm pretty sure Site 16 is the airport. Have submitted the channel list.
Have not heard site 19 in a while.
If 16 is the Airport, it's very odd that I don't have any reception to that tower. I'm on the east side of Nose Hill with pretty much line of site to YYC.
smason
Member
Were you able to receive the old Motorola airport site? If I remember correctly it was pretty short-range.
You know what? I don't think I did. I might be getting CMRN and AFRRCS Airport sites confused.
smason
Member
I definitely could be wrong, but I think of what other site's control channel I could receive inside the car with no antenna and the attenuator on.
AFRRCS at Calgary Airport is definitely far stronger than the CMRN site.
smason
Member
I put my 7 element Yagi on a camera tripod and plugged it into my SDR, finally found site 19 again on 852.1375
I have no guess as to the location. Its only peers are 11 13 and 15. A lot of the freqs correspond to the old site 9, but I seriously doubt I'm hearing Coventry Hills from McKenzie Lake on an indoor antenna
Freqs submitted to the DB. Its only peers are 11 13 and 15.
smason
Member
A lot of the freqs correspond to the old site 9, but I seriously doubt I'm hearing Coventry Hills from McKenzie Lake on an indoor antenna
After a very un-scientific game of "spin the Yagi" it definitely peaks in that general direction. This antenna is quite a performer (supposed to be 11DBi) so I guess it's possible.
ID 4014, hearing some YYC fire comms. Heard references on A6 YYC Ops to "Tac 1 and Tac 2". So I would assume 4014 is YYC Tac 1 or 2
ID 3997 - YYC Airport ATC giving details of an inbound emergency landing. Not sure if they were "paging" out YYC fire or communicating with Calgary dispatch. Sounded like a "page" out for YYC fire though. Also hearing comms on 3907, sounded like CFD talking to airport security.
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smason
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Are "we" ever going to determine the location of the sites on this system? I think it would be helpful for listeners, particularly new listeners.
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I'm pretty sure 11 is Bankers, 16 is airport, 18 is South Health. etc. But I'm not quite confident enough to say for absolute sure.
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I'm pretty sure 11 is Bankers, 16 is airport, 18 is South Health. etc. But I'm not quite confident enough to say for absolute sure.
smason
Member
OK let me post what my findings are, and maybe we can reach a consensus on site locations.
First, based on old system vs. new system, I think the following are fairly obvious.
Old System New System
Site 1 Bankers Site 11 Same channel frequencies
Site 2 Broadcast Hill Site 12 Same channel freqs
Site 3 Spy Hill Site 13 Same channel freqs
Site 4 Fish Creek Site 14 Same channel freqs
Site 5 Forest Lawn Site 15 Same channel freqs
Site 6 Airport Site 16 Same channel freqs
Site 7 South Health Site 18 SOME of the same freqs.
Site 8 Anderson Site 18 SOME of the same freqs.
Site 9 (undefined) Coventry? Site 19 Same channel freqs.
Now based on my reception from home, and some limited unscientific direction finding:
Site 11, very likely Banker's strong signal in my office on a crap antenna. 90% sure
Site 12 very likely Broacast Hill based on pointing my 7 element Yagi at it from deep SE. 80% sure
Site 13 no additional observations.
Site 14 very likely works well in deep SE, and from pointing yagi at it
Site 15 fairly likely Forest Lawn based on pointing yagi at it from home. only 40% sure
Site 16 Very likely airport, based on portable scanner in the parking lot with no antenna and attenuator on. 90% sure
Site 18 Confusing, but very likely South Health. Very strong in parking lot 1 block away with no antenna and attenuator. Had heard a rumour of Anderson and SH merging when transit moved to the system. Also today, parked on Sun Vally Blvd. above Sikome, very strong. And parked on Sacremento Drive very near the Anderson site, barely receivable with antenna on and attenuator on.
Site 19 probably Coventry, no additional observations.
Would love some discussion on this.
First, based on old system vs. new system, I think the following are fairly obvious.
Old System New System
Site 1 Bankers Site 11 Same channel frequencies
Site 2 Broadcast Hill Site 12 Same channel freqs
Site 3 Spy Hill Site 13 Same channel freqs
Site 4 Fish Creek Site 14 Same channel freqs
Site 5 Forest Lawn Site 15 Same channel freqs
Site 6 Airport Site 16 Same channel freqs
Site 7 South Health Site 18 SOME of the same freqs.
Site 8 Anderson Site 18 SOME of the same freqs.
Site 9 (undefined) Coventry? Site 19 Same channel freqs.
Now based on my reception from home, and some limited unscientific direction finding:
Site 11, very likely Banker's strong signal in my office on a crap antenna. 90% sure
Site 12 very likely Broacast Hill based on pointing my 7 element Yagi at it from deep SE. 80% sure
Site 13 no additional observations.
Site 14 very likely works well in deep SE, and from pointing yagi at it
Site 15 fairly likely Forest Lawn based on pointing yagi at it from home. only 40% sure
Site 16 Very likely airport, based on portable scanner in the parking lot with no antenna and attenuator on. 90% sure
Site 18 Confusing, but very likely South Health. Very strong in parking lot 1 block away with no antenna and attenuator. Had heard a rumour of Anderson and SH merging when transit moved to the system. Also today, parked on Sun Vally Blvd. above Sikome, very strong. And parked on Sacremento Drive very near the Anderson site, barely receivable with antenna on and attenuator on.
Site 19 probably Coventry, no additional observations.
Would love some discussion on this.
I'm located up north along the east side of Nose Hill Park, right by 64th/14th intersection. I usually get full bars reception on sites 11, 15 & 19 and mid-bars for sites 16 & 18. No reception, or very low reception, for the rest of the sites from my location. This would align with your descriptions of tower locations.
You observations are correct.
Site 11 - Banker's Hall
Site 12 - Transalta (Broadcast Hill)
Site 13 - Spyhill
Site 14 - Fish Creek (which isn't in Fish Creek any longer) It's west of Bridlewood
Site 15 - Forest Lawn
Site 16 - Airport
Site 18 - South Health Campus
Site 19 - Coventry
smason
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Thanks for the confirmation. The old database entry for the Motorola system showed Site 14 (called Fish Creek) as Due West of the Bridlewood Sobey's 162 ave around 37th street.
smason
Member
So do we name Site 14 Bridlewood? Or keep calling it Fish Creek?
I don't know if there are "official" names that the system insiders know, or if they are just name "we" use in the db.
I don't know if there are "official" names that the system insiders know, or if they are just name "we" use in the db.
Everybody at the City seems to still be calling it Fish Creek for now.
