County of Renfrew Digital Systems

[mciupa]

Nice sleuthin'

422.35 looks like Site 41 from OnQue

460.075 and 460.625 looks like a new site for PushPlus Network

The other two (VHF's) were listed by you as Turris Communications

 

[IdleMonitor]

Now not to get off the topic of these systems, cause they're what I'm targeting, But wondering why it wouldn't decode the Fleetnet System for me?

 

[highstupid]

DSD doesn't decode Motorola Type II trunking control channels. Only P25, NXDN, DMR/TRBO


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[IdleMonitor]

Is this good enough info now to have submitted to the RR Database? All we need now is some talkgroups to go along with the info?

And yes, those others are listed as Turris.

Nice sleuthin'

422.35 looks like Site 41 from OnQue

460.075 and 460.625 looks like a new site for PushPlus Network

The other two (VHF's) were listed by you as Turris Communications

 

[IdleMonitor]

Ok, thanks for that.

DSD doesn't decode Motorola Type II trunking control channels. Only P25, NXDN, DMR/TRBO


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[IdleMonitor]

I seriously got excited the first time I had actually heard a digital voice communication on the 460.075/460.625 frequencies. Not sure how I did it, but I heard it

Nice sleuthin'

422.35 looks like Site 41 from OnQue

460.075 and 460.625 looks like a new site for PushPlus Network

The other two (VHF's) were listed by you as Turris Communications

 

[IdleMonitor]

This may answer that...

http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/35833... Connect Plus VHF Network.pdf?t=1478179723518

Nice sleuthin'

The other two (VHF's) were listed by you as Turris Communications

 

[mciupa]

Is this good enough info now to have submitted to the RR Database? All we need now is some talkgroups to go along with the info?

And yes, those others are listed as Turris.

It's confirmed by you so it can go in the database.

I've put the Turris system in the database: Turris Communications (201) Trunking System, Multiple Locations, Ontario - Scanner Frequencies in the mean time.

 

[IdleMonitor]

Are we able to put 167.835 in with 163.755 and 159.090 with 160.080 seeing as they match with them as well?

Also the UHF PushPlush Network and the OnQue network. Are we able to update those now also?

It's confirmed by you so it can go in the database.

I've put the Turris system in the database: Turris Communications (201) Trunking System, Multiple Locations, Ontario - Scanner Frequencies in the mean time.

 

[mciupa]

Are we able to put 167.835 in with 163.755 and 159.090 with 160.080 seeing as they match with them as well?

Also the UHF PushPlush Network and the OnQue network. Are we able to update those now also?

You know I can only do that with confirmation, such as you provided with site numbers and neighbour lists.

I'm sure that will happen soon. :wink:

 

[IdleMonitor]

Is that not already confirmed in the earlier post? Especially with the OnQue network post


422.350 ---

2016/11/07 18:38:57 Current site: R202-41
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-21; CC=220
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-22; CC=122
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-23; CC=127
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-24; CC=128
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-32; CC=308
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-43; CC=200
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-44; CC=320
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-45; CC=321

And yes, I will continue to try and get more info on the systems that I managed to confirm as well. This has been something that I should've been able to provide a long time ago

You know I can only do that with confirmation, such as you provided with site numbers and neighbour lists.

I'm sure that will happen soon. :wink:

 

[IdleMonitor]

Here's a few more from the region. Was able to pick these up this morning while in the area, but I have no way of getting the information for them though.

163.440 - 7K60FXEXT - 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA - Chalk River - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - VGS304
164.880 - 7K60FXEXT - 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA - Chalk River - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - VGS304

423.850 - 7K60FXEXT - 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA - Pembroke - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - CKH345
424.100 - 7K60FXEXT - 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA - Pembroke - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - CKH345

 

[DaveH]

I seriously got excited the first time I had actually heard a digital voice communication on the 460.075/460.625 frequencies. Not sure how I did it, but I heard it

Not only that, but if you get DMR activity on both timeslots at the same time on the same frequency, you'll hear both, one in each audio channel.

As for Network ID 201, VHF network has site numbers which duplicate some in the UHF network, not sure how that works, and how the DB will handle it...

Dave

 

[DaveH]

Also, not quite sure about the dongle you're using but the RTL2832 has a cheap oscillator which almost always needs be corrected unless it is within a few PPM of the actual frequency. One I used was off by 57 PPM at room temp. Also, they are not terribly temperature stable. I know someone receiving VHF weather broadcast and if the temperature dropped 5C, reception got very messed up.

Also, may want try adjusting RF gain. Too low and you won't hear much, too high and there's a lot of compression and intermodulation crap possibly.

Dave

Dave

 

[IdleMonitor]

Yup, I believe that actually happened with the first comm's that I heard. I guess in the software I can ask it to listen to either Slot 1 or Slot 2 or both at the same time.

As far as the VHF network is concerned, I have a suspicion that this is what will be used by the County Public Works once it transitions over to it. If it hasn't already done so. I haven't heard them on there regular frequencies in quite some time now.

Here's the links to the maps.

Renfrew Connect Plus VHF Network

http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/35833... Connect Plus VHF Network.pdf?t=1478179723518

Eastern Ontario PushPlus Network

http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/35833...ntario and Western Quebec.pdf?t=1478110919857

Not only that, but if you get DMR activity on both timeslots at the same time on the same frequency, you'll hear both, one in each audio channel.

As for Network ID 201, VHF network has site numbers which duplicate some in the UHF network, not sure how that works, and how the DB will handle it...

Dave

 

[highstupid]

Where'd you get those maps????


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[mmisk]

A very busy site for you to try.

Try this frequency: 460.7875

It is presently the control channel for a very busy site.
This will give you an idea of just how much switching and activity there can be.

The other frequencies for this system are:

;C&W 201-3 (BUSY) Chateau Royale 1380 Prince of Wales 312188 Airport OPS,
; 309522 NRC, 312134 Security, 2503-1108 Security, 313703 Security, 308339 Security

Con+, 201, 3, 1, 461.58750, 0.0, 0 58
Con+, 201, 3, 3, 460.78750, 0.0, 0 59
Con+, 201, 3, 5, 451.68750, 0.0, 0 60
Con+, 201, 3, 7, 451.52500, 0.0, 0 NEW

The next step is to get you set up for listening to all the activity with DSD Plus.

Mike

 

[IdleMonitor]

From this page

ConnectPlus Digital Two-Way Network -*Turris Communications*

Where'd you get those maps????


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[IdleMonitor]

If that is in Ottawa, then I'm not gonna get it out my way.

And I am using DSD plus.

Try this frequency: 460.7875

It is presently the control channel for a very busy site.
This will give you an idea of just how much switching and activity there can be.

The other frequencies for this system are:

;C&W 201-3 (BUSY) Chateau Royale 1380 Prince of Wales 312188 Airport OPS,
; 309522 NRC, 312134 Security, 2503-1108 Security, 313703 Security, 308339 Security

Con+, 201, 3, 1, 461.58750, 0.0, 0 58
Con+, 201, 3, 3, 460.78750, 0.0, 0 59
Con+, 201, 3, 5, 451.68750, 0.0, 0 60
Con+, 201, 3, 7, 451.52500, 0.0, 0 NEW

The next step is to get you set up for listening to all the activity with DSD Plus.

Mike

 

[IdleMonitor]

Also, not quite sure about the dongle you're using but the RTL2832 has a cheap oscillator which almost always needs be corrected unless it is within a few PPM of the actual frequency. One I used was off by 57 PPM at room temp. Also, they are not terribly temperature stable. I know someone receiving VHF weather broadcast and if the temperature dropped 5C, reception got very messed up.

Also, may want try adjusting RF gain. Too low and you won't hear much, too high and there's a lot of compression and intermodulation crap possibly.

Dave

Dave

I usually have to set my ppm to +28 which is not bad.

The rf gain I've adjusted fine. Weird though is I can hear one of the KHR Nexedge control channels fine on the scanner but yet can't seem to pull it in ok with the dongle to decode the signal.