Customs Service (ICE/CBP) Unit Designators

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I am in Maine, 55 miles from the Quebec Border, and I see CBP here all the time, they even come up on local frequencies for chases, and running plates, maybe federally mandated as you say, as local SO/PD coverage is sparse between here and the border.
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Okay, no doubt. I should qualify my previous post a bit more- in that there are exceptions to most rules. Such is the case here.

When you say you see 'CBP' vehciles I am will take it that you mean Border Patrol or 'OBP' and not CBPO's: Border Patrol Vehicles are distinctive in that they are white with green stripes and have the DHS seal on the door. They do say Customs and Border Protection on them. The old round USBP door seal has been replaced with the CBP door seal but the green stripe remains- although now more vertical than the old horizontal green stripe- other CBP vehicles have blue stripes in the same orientation. Below appear several photos that should be illustrative of the differences of which I comment. While the Crown Vic is in fact the Federal Protective Service- just supplant the DHS wording with CBP lineage. The smaller tahoe on the right is the old USBP markings.

If you are in Maine you are in Houlton Sector of the OBP. The USA is divided up into areas of command known as sectors and then further into areas of responsibility which are generally individual stations. like this:

Service Area: The Houlton Sector covers the entire state of Maine.
Stations: Stations of the Houlton Sector are located in Calais, Fort Fairfield, Van Buren, Jackman and Rangeley, Maine.

On the nothern border, the sector stations are often outside the 35mi radius- as Houlton is to Van Buren- what is that like 75+ miles? There are many examples of this on the northern border. Most are largely administrative in nature and little actual patrol work is based at these sector offices so far from the border. Usually where radio, command staff, support staff, and logistics for the sector is based.

One of the prime differences between the northern and southern borders is that on the southern border once one is across you can prety much go in any direction and there are lots of roads an highways to leave the area on. On the northern border the terrain dictates where one goes, there are fewer road and fewer ways to leave the area once across. I am sure you can attest to this living in Maine. Agents must travel from place to place and naturally come in contact with local law enforcement problems and do assist local LE close to the border. But Generally, the Border Patrol has little interest in you if you are a United States Citizen and are not smuggling across the border.

Also are images of Border Patrol Agents and Customs and Border Protection Officer together. The BP is in green, the CBPOs in blue. Notice the right sleeve patches. BP still wears the round USBP patch on the left sleeve, the CBPO's wear the same patch on both sleeves. Based on oak leaf on her collar she is either a Assistant Patrol Agent in Charge or Field Operations Supervisor.
 

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Okay, no doubt. I should qualify my previous post a bit more- in that there are exceptions to most rules. Such is the case here.

When you say you see 'CBP' vehciles I am will take it that you mean Border Patrol or 'OBP' and not CBPO's: Border Patrol Vehicles are distinctive in that they are white with green stripes and have the DHS seal on the door. They do say Customs and Border Protection on them. .

Yes i see the Tahoe's..the border crossing close to me is actually Coburn Gore, South West of the Jackman crossing, it is a major trucking route from Quebec...
there are several un-marked private roads that you can drive across though..most of them are used for logging..
not much radio traffic, mostly radio checks on the hour.

In a recent job posting there was 700 applicants just for the state of Maine

Great pictures!
 
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I could not find a Federal Tab at the site you indicated. Maybe not enough Coffee, but then again..


I forgot...you have to log in or register first as a member before the Federal tab will appear. Sorry about that. And you can never have too much coffee...
 

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akanuaka said:
1b. At the ports of entry, those guys in the little booths used to be Immigrations Inspectors and they were Colocated with Customs agents. Customs also had a patrol component at one time but I digress. Those two jobs have been combined into one job. The positions only exist at the Ports of Entries. The New job is called 'Customs & Border Protection Officer' or CBPO. They wear Dark Blue usually BDU style uniforms.

That is incorrect. INS Inspectors were merged with Customs Inspectors and transferred to the new title CBP Officer. INS Special Agents and Customs Special Agents were merged and transferred to ICE and are now ICE Special Agents. So basically your uniformed division is now under CBP and investigative division/plain clothes is now under ICE..with exceptions.

CBP has an Office of Field Operations or OFO (CBP Officers), Office of the Border Patrol or OBP (CBP Patrol Agents), Office of Air and Marine Operations or AMO (Air Interdication Agents and Marine Interdiction Agenct) amongst other divisions.

ICE has an Office of Investigations (OI), Office of Detention and Removal Operations (DRO)(IEA's or Immigration Enforcement Agents fall underneath this and are uniformed) and the Federal Protective Service or FPS which protects federal buildings is here, etc., etc. There are many different divisions, but this is what was mostly being discussed.

Here's another government SNAGFU...The current MOU with CBP is to call ICE for investigative follow-up with everything. However, even though OBP is under CBP and DHS for that matter, the current MOU still has them calling DEA for their drug cases.
 

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That is incorrect. INS Inspectors were merged with Customs Inspectors and transferred to the new title CBP Officer. INS Special Agents and Customs Special Agents were merged and transferred to ICE and are now ICE Special Agents. So basically your uniformed division is now under CBP and investigative division/plain clothes is now under ICE..with exceptions.

CBP has an Office of Field Operations or OFO (CBP Officers), Office of the Border Patrol or OBP (CBP Patrol Agents), Office of Air and Marine Operations or AMO (Air Interdication Agents and Marine Interdiction Agenct) amongst other divisions.

So many agency's...now we have "Integrated Border Enforcement Team" (IBET).

Not sure if other parts of US/Canada has anything similar, says it is a model for policing

"Established after the 9/11 attacks and consisting of six core agencies – RCMP, the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) , the U.S. Border Patrol, the U.S. Coast Guard, the U.S. Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and U.S. Customs Border Protection – IBET is an integrated approach to working together and sharing information to combat international terrorism along the border and fight criminal activity,"

Rest of story here:
http://victoriastar.canadaeast.com/county/article/410072
 

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The ICE repeater in Newark, Trenton, Atlantic City and Philly are all linked. Mostly P25 in the clear and most of the stuff I hear is surveillance around the Newark areas. But they do go encrypted...always seems like when things start getting interesting.

Hi E911God,

Do you happen to know where the PA (Philly Office) ICE repeater sites are? There's one in Philly and one south of Philly (Delaware?) and a few N and W of the City but not sure of the actual locations. Also do you have the same for the NY office?

thanks,

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Hi E911God,

Do you happen to know where the PA (Philly Office) ICE repeater sites are? There's one in Philly and one south of Philly (Delaware?) and a few N and W of the City but not sure of the actual locations. Also do you have the same for the NY office?

thanks,

Joe


Don't know too much about PA other than the Philly PA, Atlantic City NJ, Newark NJ and Trenton NJ sites are all linked. I personally confirmed it driving from Bergen County all the way down one day. It was all P25 in the clear. Same input frequency, different output per tower. In Newark I could hear both the Newark and Trenton sites 5x5.

New York has sites in Manhattan in the city, Middle Island and Montauk on Long Island (ICE has a RAC office in Islip by Macarthur Airport), Mount Beacon in Dutchess County (RAC office in Castle Point) and I think Finchville in the Western part of Orange County. I confirmed the Manhattan, Beacon and Middle Island sites are all linked, again with a drive listening to surveillance one day. My drive ended at Jones Beach, so I never confirmed Montauk and I've never been to the western part of Orange County before.
 

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Hi e911God,

Thanks so much for the info!

Can you PM me, I have some info that you may be interested in.

thanks,
 

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Joe / e911god,

I know i posted a request in the past, but can you pass along the frequencies you heard this stuff on? Just curious to see what I can hear from my house in Bucks County and in my travels. I am sure others would be interested also.

e911god, you are the man when it comes to ICE. Any chance you know anything about this blurb from Monitoring Times fed files blog (Chris Parris)????:

Immigrations and Customs Enforcement has also been upgrading their radio communications network, referred to as the Tactical Communications Modernization Project. This project is not geared towards building their own communications network. Instead, ICE is looking to partner up with other federal agencies and utilized existing infrastructure to accomplish what they need. Again, this is what we have been hearing over the last few years on the radios.

just figured you might now if any changes for ice communicatons were in the works in the northeast area? I know the fbi has changed alot of there stuff.

thanks!!
 

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Gotta love the boarder Patrol.I live about 1 mile from the oldest Federal building in the US.The Ogdensburg Customs house.They are putting 17 million into renevations and a copper roof .

They just started to change the vehicles over to the homeland security seal.Those chargers they have look sharp all slick tops tons of new and old tahoes,crown vics,durangos,F150S,Suburbans and excursions and boats.

http://www.gsa.gov/Portal/gsa/ep/contentView.do?contentType=GSA_BASIC&contentId=19970
 
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clayd...

Well, every agency (Treasury, Justice and Homeland Security) and all the Departments underneath them were suppossed to do this big VHF digital trunked network called the Integrated Wireless Network or IWN. Well, the kids can't play nice together in the sandbox, so everyone is basically upgrading their systems on their own and naming it something new. The GAO just did a report about it to Congress...someone posted a link to it on RR I think under the news section bascially saying they need to work together.

Most of the federal stuff I get has been from years of listening, google, ecscanning (where alot of Federal stuff for NY/NJ is posted) (aka eastcoastscanning.com), the old fordyce, n2nov, nf2g, mtblogs, ntia, etc.

But the best way is to spectrum sweep. I search between 160-170 or so and just log hits. Usually the agencies all use different PL's...FBI 167.9, CBP/ICE 100.0, DEA 156.7. When they went digital, they used a NAC similar to their old PL..FBI $167 or DEA $156.

The other thing I noticed is alot of conversations are in the clear or only one side is encrypted which means one of three things...1-the channel is not automatically slaved for encryption in the software, 2-the user forgot to flip the switch or 3-the user didn't rekey his radio, so one is using an old key and one a new key. Hence, they can't hear each other and tell one another to go clear.

The way I catch channels is because you'll hear "201 to 206 on Alpha 1." Then I'll hear "switch to Alpha 5" so I hit search and sure enough the same voices pop up on a different frequency. Just some tips.
 

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So back to the OT of ICE/CBP Unit designators...

I heard a PAPA unit today down in San Antonio. He came across the A2 Repeater (165.2375). It was "PAPA33XX Radio Check." Replied to with the usual "Lima Charlie." I found an old list of what appear to be COTHEN callsigns (I know some callsigns apply to both COTHEN and their VHF radio protocols- like HAMMER): http://www.textfiles.com/hamradio/FREQUENCIES/customs3.ham that states that PAPA is for "Customs Automotive Unit." Does anyone know if this is the right description... nothing in the wiki
 

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"Papa" units are FPS. They mostly use the UHF repeater network monitored by several "megacenters." However, they do have VHF mobiles in many of the vehicles for communications with Charlie-100 since they are part of ICE.

165.2375 PL 100.0 is TAC 1/NET 1 and is usually designated A1 (simplex) and A2 (repeater). Mostly still analog.

Updated List:
Alpha = ICE/OI Special Agents
Charlie = CBP Tactical Communications Officers (radio repair, but they are armed I'm told)
Charlie 100 or Sector is the NLECC in Orlando
Delta is usually a Port base with CBP.
Golf = ICE/DRO Officer
India = CBP Officers
Kilo = CBP K-9 Officers
Lima = CBP/AMO Air Interdiciton Agents
Mike = CBP/AMO Marine Interdiction Agents
Omaha = CBP Air units
Papa=FPS
Tango = Task Force Officers with ICE
Charlie Gulf = Coast Guard

Also heard an "FDA" unit on Net 1 when I was on vacation down south, so they may contract with CBP for datas.
 
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Thanks e911.

It's a rare occasion when I hear any other callsign than an OMAHA or MIKE. Your lists have helped answer many questions. Thanks for your work.
 
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So where do the green uniformed "Border Patrol" officers and stations work into this new network? Do they have a radio call sign system all their own, or are they using a single-letter prefix now like all the others?


"Papa" units are FPS. They mostly use the UHF repeater network monitored by several "megacenters." However, they do have VHF mobiles in many of the vehicles for communications with Charlie-100 since they are part of ICE.

165.2375 PL 100.0 is TAC 1/NET 1 and is usually designated A1 (simplex) and A2 (repeater). Mostly still analog.

Updated List:
Alpha = ICE/OI Special Agents
Charlie = CBP Tactical Communications Officers (radio repair, but they are armed I'm told)
Charlie 100 or Sector is the NLECC in Orlando
Delta is usually a Port base with CBP.
Golf = ICE/DRO Officer
India = CBP Officers
Kilo = CBP K-9 Officers
Lima = CBP/AMO Air Interdiciton Agents
Mike = CBP/AMO Marine Interdiction Agents
Omaha = CBP Air units
Papa=FPS
Tango = Task Force Officers with ICE
Charlie Gulf = Coast Guard

Also heard an "FDA" unit on Net 1 when I was on vacation down south, so they may contract with CBP for datas.
 
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"Papa" units are FPS. They mostly use the UHF repeater network monitored by several "megacenters." However, they do have VHF mobiles in many of the vehicles for communications with Charlie-100 since they are part of ICE.

165.2375 PL 100.0 is TAC 1/NET 1 and is usually designated A1 (simplex) and A2 (repeater). Mostly still analog.

Updated List:
Alpha = ICE/OI Special Agents
Charlie = CBP Tactical Communications Officers (radio repair, but they are armed I'm told)
Charlie 100 or Sector is the NLECC in Orlando
Delta is usually a Port base with CBP.
Golf = ICE/DRO Officer
India = CBP Officers
Kilo = CBP K-9 Officers
Lima = CBP/AMO Air Interdiciton Agents
Mike = CBP/AMO Marine Interdiction Agents
Omaha = CBP Air units
Papa=FPS
Tango = Task Force Officers with ICE
Charlie Gulf = Coast Guard

Also heard an "FDA" unit on Net 1 when I was on vacation down south, so they may contract with CBP for datas.

As an added note, sometimes the unit would add his/her location (possibly the office that he/she belongs to). For example, we hear "New Jersey Golf XXXX" on NET 1 a lot in New York, while New York units would just be "Golf XXXX"
 

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As an added note, sometimes the unit would add his/her location (possibly the office that he/she belongs to). For example, we hear "New Jersey Golf XXXX" on NET 1 a lot in New York, while New York units would just be "Golf XXXX"

That's correct. They used to use a numerial identifier. A unit in Miami, Florida for example would say Four Alpha 175...in New Jersey, Two Alpha 175 ...now they are "Florida Alpha 175" and "New Jersey Alpha 175." This was done to increase the number of users per geographical area, since some numbers cover more than just one state.

Most users in their home state will drop the state name, because Charlie 100 can tell which repeater they are using.

When on detail in another state, they WILL USE their state name, since Alpha 175 from New Jersey may be doing surveillance in Pennsylvania where there is a Pennsylvania Alpha 175.
 

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"Papa" units are FPS. They mostly use the UHF repeater network monitored by several "megacenters." However, they do have VHF mobiles in many of the vehicles for communications with Charlie-100 since they are part of ICE.

165.2375 PL 100.0 is TAC 1/NET 1 and is usually designated A1 (simplex) and A2 (repeater). Mostly still analog.

Updated List:
Alpha = ICE/OI Special Agents
Charlie = CBP Tactical Communications Officers (radio repair, but they are armed I'm told)
Charlie 100 or Sector is the NLECC in Orlando
Delta is usually a Port base with CBP.
Golf = ICE/DRO Officer
India = CBP Officers
Kilo = CBP K-9 Officers
Lima = CBP/AMO Air Interdiciton Agents
Mike = CBP/AMO Marine Interdiction Agents
Omaha = CBP Air units
Papa=FPS
Tango = Task Force Officers with ICE
Charlie Gulf = Coast Guard

Also heard an "FDA" unit on Net 1 when I was on vacation down south, so they may contract with CBP for datas.


I've been told that there are various agencies that do indeed contract with C100 for communications. Some examples are FDA, DCIS, EPA, HSS, FEMA, NOAA, USDA as well as some other IG agencies. Additionally, most of them clearly identify themselves with their agency's acronim preceeding the callsign number. As for Border Patrol, if they need to transmit on the CBP C-100 Net, they identify themselves as "BPxxx".
 
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