Drone Swarms / Large UAV’s

[dave3825]

What is the frequency of these? Daily, every few days or random?

 

[richee2000]

There are hundreds of reports everyday. I've seen many of the pictures of these alleged drones, And they are extremely difficult to identify as anything. Many look like aircraft and helicopters to me.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Do Drones of larger size have to be registered with the FAA ? seems i read that somewhere , and if they are registered , they know who it is , if no then Law or military should be able to handle it .

The operators must be licensed by FAA if the drone is above a certain size. There are strict operational rules depending on size. There are waivers issued for nighttime and remote (beyond line of sight) operations. There are tons of waivers currently on the FAA site. But strangely I cannot find NOTAMs for these swarm flights. That the government is "befuddled" simply means they know what is going on and the public has apparently no need to know.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/user_identification_tool

https://www.faa.gov/uas/commercial_operators

 

[etr37]

Like casting a pebble in the water Bob, what a story, lets see what we can do with this.

At this time a CH-53E Super Stallion is heading out along the coast of Ocean County near LBI. This heavy according to internet has significant capabilities.

I note with interest it is dusk.

Just sat down at my desk and see this same helo is now doing low, tight circles over the Greenwood Forest WMA just west of Rt. 539

 

[etr37]

Also a TIS target IDing as "297B97" at about 1400' just west of Lakehurst.

(Personally I think this is all BS myself, but interesting none the less)

 

[trentbob]

That the government is "befuddled" simply means they know what is going on and the public has apparently no need to know.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/user_identification_tool

https://www.faa.gov/uas/commercial_operators

BINGO.. you finally got it. This is what I've been saying consistently all along from the beginning. LOL

The fact this is happening in Europe, and there's no big deal as the people there are far more sophisticated and intelligent than they are in the United States confirms this. The RAF has not scrambled a jet once. LOL.

 

[KevinC]

What is the frequency of these?

Speaking of, the below explains why this thread has nothing to do with radios.

 

[richee2000]

Speaking of, the below explains why this thread has nothing to do with radios.

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So these drones are being controlled on an RF frequency which is outside of the normal bands that drones usually operate on.... Or, they're not controlled by radio frequencies at all, instead they are controlled by a combination of satellite navigation and pre-program computer navigation

 

[u2brent]

ESP

 

[trentbob]

So these drones are being controlled on an RF frequency which is outside of the normal bands that drones usually operate on.... Or, they're not controlled by radio frequencies at all, instead they are controlled by a combination of satellite navigation and pre-program computer navigation

That's for you and the Iranians, Russians, Chinese, Brick, and all of our enemies to figure out.

 

[prcguy]

So these drones are being controlled on an RF frequency which is outside of the normal bands that drones usually operate on.... Or, they're not controlled by radio frequencies at all, instead they are controlled by a combination of satellite navigation and pre-program computer navigation

If it were that covert there would be no lights on at any time. And/or they would not know when they are being tracked where lights are being turned off. I believe they are being flown by people within visual or terrestrial radio control range and those people can see when the drones are being approached by other aircraft. The fact these things have no NOTAMs and they have been a hazard to other aircraft means the drone pilots are trying to circumvent rules to either gather information or they are just some clowns trying to get attention in the news.

 

[KC1UA]

I don't have much else to offer, but it is surely a safe bet that these drones are not being operated by the people at the controls in the following video presentation.

 

[mmckenna]

If it were that covert there would be no lights on at any time. And/or they would not know when they are being tracked where lights are being turned off.

This thread piqued my interest and I just watched a few of the videos.

I agree. If some boogey man was trying to do something sneaky, they wouldn't be flying around with all the lights going on these things. Of the few videos I watched, they looked like aircraft the way the lights were setup.
The rest of the videos were shaky/out of focus and it could have been the freakin' Goodyear blimp for all we know.

With dang near everyone having a cell phone with a pretty good camera on it, flying around over residential neighborhoods with all the lights blazing probably isn't the way to be sneaky.

Kid with a drone
or
Military doing whatever the hell they want to do and, no, they don't need to tell us all about it.

People freaking out because the news source of their choice told them they were supposed to.

 

[rr60]

My understanding is flight control has evolved far beyond any RF input whatsoever. No remote pilots needed either.

All uploaded to an on board flight plan with AI supervision. Some fiber control has been seen too. I imagine GPS is backed up by INS and LIDAR mapping.

All for obvious reasons. Northstar is flying missions tonight. Good news! I will sleep tight!

 

[dave3825]

Speaking of, the below explains why this thread has nothing to do with radios.

Radios, LOL OL OL

Frequency of a value is the number of times it occurs in a dataset. Frequency distribution is basically the pattern of frequencies of a variable. It’s the number of times each possible value of a variable occurs in a dataset.

Good news! I will sleep tight!

We can all sleep good tonight.

National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby spoke at the White House press briefing about the mysterious drones that have been spotted over New Jersey recently, saying the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI are investigating the sightings. He also said, "many of the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft that are being operated lawfully." …

 

[APX8000]

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Wait, you mean my Baofang cannot decode this ?

 

[GTR8000]

This is a great thread

False.

 

[trentbob]

False.

TRUE.. please don't give me a thumbs down, we're all entitled to our own opinion, thanks. Bob.

 

[mancow]

x.com

Currently, numerous people around LaGuardia Airport, Queens, Staten Island, and other parts of New York are reporting sightings of 10 to 20 unidentified large "drones" flying overhead. Witnesses have described these objects as unusual, leading to a surge in 911 calls and widespread concern, with some even reporting feelings of panic. While these sightings have sparked speculation and confusion, it’s worth considering the possibility that they could be regular airplanes seen from unusual angles or in specific lighting conditions. Authorities have yet to confirm or identify the objects, leaving many residents on edge video by
@ScooterCasterNY

So, it seems morons are freaking out over normal aircraft now.

 

[prcguy]

This thread piqued my interest and I just watched a few of the videos.

I agree. If some boogey man was trying to do something sneaky, they wouldn't be flying around with all the lights going on these things. Of the few videos I watched, they looked like aircraft the way the lights were setup.
The rest of the videos were shaky/out of focus and it could have been the freakin' Goodyear blimp for all we know.

With dang near everyone having a cell phone with a pretty good camera on it, flying around over residential neighborhoods with all the lights blazing probably isn't the way to be sneaky.

Kid with a drone
or
Military doing whatever the hell they want to do and, no, they don't need to tell us all about it.

People freaking out because the news source of their choice told them they were supposed to.

Could be a US military operation, however for routine training or unclassified operations I would expect there to be NOTAMs because some of the drones have caused a hazard to other aircraft. For a planned or emergency mission involving national security I can see the operation having no NOTAMs.

That still leaves domestic non military or foreign pilots operating for nefarious or stupid reasons.