Drone Swarms / Large UAV’s

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I don't have much else to offer, but it is surely a safe bet that these drones are not being operated by the people at the controls in the following video presentation.

That was educational. Ok. I have found a way to solve this. We need an army of cats, several highly skilled, yet angry, golfers and one guy in a gorilla suit carrying a long pole.
 

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Just as an aside, has anyone on this thread seen one of these flying devices themselves?
I ask as these sorts of stories often start from an actual, real incident but become blown out of all proportion by the massive game of Vietnamese Whispers that is social media.

A couple of years back we had a couple of London airports closed down for hours at a time by reported sightings of drones flying around the airfields...social media, news reporting and the such like resulted in very similar stories to the current one when only a couple of actual detected drone sightings had actually taken place.

From the descriptions I have read I would expect these flying devices to be quite detectable by the usual types of aero radar used for tracking even small aircraft.

Please note I am not saying it's all being imagined but I do wonder how much it is being inflated by social media and reporting.
 

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Just as an aside, has anyone on this thread seen one of these flying devices themselves?
I ask as these sorts of stories often start from an actual, real incident but become blown out of all proportion by the massive game of Vietnamese Whispers that is social media.

A couple of years back we had a couple of London airports closed down for hours at a time by reported sightings of drones flying around the airfields...social media, news reporting and the such like resulted in very similar stories to the current one when only a couple of actual detected drone sightings had actually taken place.

From the descriptions I have read I would expect these flying devices to be quite detectable by the usual types of aero radar used for tracking even small aircraft.

Please note I am not saying it's all being imagined but I do wonder how much it is being inflated by social media and reporting.
I don't think the authorities are denying the situation exists. It would be less bizarre if they were blaming swamp gas.
 

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I don't think the authorities are denying the situation exists. It would be less bizarre if they were blaming swamp gas.
I'm not suggesting that there isn't at least something behind the story but I do wonder just how much there is behind it and how much is fluff.

A few years back when I was a teacher, there was a great hullabaloo in local media about "gangs of criminals roaming around the town dressed as scary clowns and terrifying young people." This all turned out to be completely fictitious and came about because someone said to a friend that they were really scared of clowns. The power of social media is really quite disturbing.
 

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These detection devices are being seen in the State. The panel antenna rapidly sweeps the horizon. Suspect MW Band radar for signatures with no RF Profile.

These are remote with no local operator.

They likely pair this with standard RF detection of craft that have RF emissions.

Some data must have been collected.
 

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Couple sightings on Long Island last night but most of what was posted in fakebook looked like small hobby drones and or planes that were far out. Locally it seems people are getting together in small groups and flying hobby drones in a similar manner as the NJ drones to spook people. And of course the local Karen's are posting pics of anything in the sky that has lights.


These detection devices are being seen in the State. The panel antenna rapidly sweeps the horizon.

Do they penetrate houses, trees and buildings? Its so low to the ground. Looks like something the state would do.
 

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New Jersey State Police helicopter pilots report positively identifying multiple drones, and chasing these drones over New Jersey, but when they got close, The drones went dark, turning off all navigation lights.

The United States military has deployed US Coast Guard helicopters as well as US Army Blackhawk helicopters which have positively identified multiple drone activity.

The US Coast Guard reporting multiple drones following US Coast Guard ships.

Reports indicate these drones have been flying over US Navy Weapons Station Earle in Middletown, Picatinny Arsenal, and Trump National. Due to these positive drone sightings by military personnel, The Federal Aviation Administration has set up a TFR (Temporary Flight Restriction) to all drone flights over some sensitive areas.

The Federal Government, and the State Government continue to say "nothing to see here", while the evidence, and their actions, contradicts their statements.

NYPD taking reports of multiple drones all over Staten Island last night.
 

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These detection devices are being seen in the State. The panel antenna rapidly sweeps the horizon. Suspect MW Band radar for signatures with no RF Profile.

These are remote with no local operator.

They likely pair this with standard RF detection of craft that have RF emissions.

Some data must have been collected.
What leads you to believe these are “detection devices”?
 

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These detection devices are being seen in the State. The panel antenna rapidly sweeps the horizon. Suspect MW Band radar for signatures with no RF Profile.

These are remote with no local operator.

They likely pair this with standard RF detection of craft that have RF emissions.

Some data must have been collected.
To be honest that looks rather more like a Starlink terminal for the CCTV cameras mounted further down the pole.
 

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Understood. Picture quality is poor for a reason.

Think protecting critical infrastructure and let YouTube or Google do the work for you. I for one will not disclose specific methods or locations. Should be no surprises here. This all is a matter of fact. There have been a few very specific press releases
on incursions recorded and reported during the last week.
 

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Just as an aside, has anyone on this thread seen one of these flying devices themselves?
I ask as these sorts of stories often start from an actual, real incident but become blown out of all proportion by the massive game of Vietnamese Whispers that is social media.

A couple of years back we had a couple of London airports closed down for hours at a time by reported sightings of drones flying around the airfields...social media, news reporting and the such like resulted in very similar stories to the current one when only a couple of actual detected drone sightings had actually taken place.

From the descriptions I have read I would expect these flying devices to be quite detectable by the usual types of aero radar used for tracking even small aircraft.

Please note I am not saying it's all being imagined but I do wonder how much it is being inflated by social media and reporting.
Very good point, social media that friends send me on text, I don't look at it myself, it's pretty out of control. People who are not familiar with science, technology or military just make this stuff up as they go.

I have to admit I have been looking up, I'm on the river that divides Pennsylvania and New Jersey and there was a report of drones seen in Bucks County which borders Northeast Philadelphia and is just south of Trenton.

I might sit out tonight in my lawn chair with some binoculars, my problem is I'm near Sterling helicopter repair service facility and there is a constant flow of Choppers coming and going 7 days a week at any time.
 

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Understood. Picture quality is poor for a reason.

Think protecting critical infrastructure and let YouTube or Google do the work for you. I for one will not disclose specific methods or locations. Should be no surprises here. This all is a matter of fact. There have been a few very specific press releases
on incursions recorded and reported during the last week.
Interesting. When these started popping up in my area they were for the electric providers smart meters.

With what appears to be cameras further down the pole I could see how they could be for them.
 

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Don't these drones have a heat signature and don't the helo's have flir or other devices to detect heat and or mass?
The heat signature of a drone would be very small showing possibly the tiny motors, motor controller and maybe a main controller board. Most of the electronics in a drone are designed for minimal power consumption and that equals little heat given off. If the electronics are buried in the fuselage they would not show up very well if at all. So far there are very poor distant videos of some drones and most FLIR equipment has nowhere near the number of pixels or or lens capability of most video cameras these days, so good luck getting useful FLIR videos.
 

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Understood. Picture quality is poor for a reason.

Think protecting critical infrastructure and let YouTube or Google do the work for you. I for one will not disclose specific methods or locations.
The local CCP/PLA/IRGC units already have better pictures, complete documentation and backdoors into the software that runs it.
 
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