EBRCS Update

[Outerdog]

Joining the TDMA party is Berkeley.

3105 Berkeley PD 1 (probably safe to put all Berkeley PD to TDMA)

 

[kg6nlw]

FWIW and I'm sure most of these are already covered but I just want to make sure...I did some logging this evening while around Peacock Gap in Marin... @mlangeveld I apologize if a handful of these are already taken care of, I just wanted to get what I found out there...

TDMA TALKGROUPS:

TG2436 (Don't have this in my personal database).
TG7174 (Don't have this in my personal database & WAS ENC).

ALCO FD Dispatch 1 and 2
ALCO EMS - MED 1
AMR CoCo - 5557 Tac
Albany PD 1
Alameda PD 1
Benicia FD Dispatch 1
Berkeley PD 1, 2, and 3 (as @Outerdog mentioned)
Emeryville PD 1
EB Regional Park PD1
Hercules/Pinole PD 1
Martinez PD 1
Oakland PD 7 (TONS of activity on this channel tonight)
Piedmont Animal Control
Richmond PD 1 & 2
San Pablo PD 1
San Ramon PD 1
UC Berkeley PD 1
Walnut Creek PD 1
Vallejo PD 1

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[kg6nlw]

Looks like a "one-off" for these, but I got this tonight...I was in clear sight of Site: ALCO Northwest. I was in SF at the time of all these occurrences. The top half is Fire of various agencies and the bottom half is PD in time order.

2021/12/26 18:12:25 Freq=769.256250 NAC=1F4 Enc Group call; TG=2405 [OAKLAND FIRE DSP] RID=3206227 Ch=769.25625 AlgID=21 KeyID=2000 (8192) 6s

2021/12/26 19:20:45 Freq=774.218750 NAC=1F4 Enc Group call; TG=2105 [BERKELEY FFIRE DSP] RID=3113005 Ch=772.99375 Pri0 AlgID=08 KeyID=0800 (2048) 18s

2021/12/26 19:38:18 Freq=774.218750 NAC=1F4 Enc Group call; TG=2406 [OAKLAND FIRE 2] RID=3206222 Ch=769.25625 Pri0 AlgID=22 KeyID=1800 (6144) 12s

2021/12/26 20:17:07 Freq=769.256250 NAC=1F4 Enc Group call; TG=2605 [ACFD DSP1 (TDMA)] Ch=769.25625 AlgID=8A KeyID=2562 (9570) 2s

2021/12/26 21:23:58 Freq=772.393750 NAC=1F4 Enc Group call; TG=2105 [BERKELEY FD DSP1] RID=3113002 Ch=772.39375 AlgID=08 KeyID=0000 (0) 3s
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2021/12/26 20:21:07 Freq=774.218750 NAC=1F4 Enc Group call; TG=3105 [BERKELEY PD1 (TDMA)] RID=3124117 Ch=772.09375 AlgID=0B KeyID=7000 (28672) 6s

2021/12/26 20:35:57 Freq=774.218750 NAC=1F4 Enc Group call; TG=3105 [BERKELEY PD1 (TDMA)] RID=3113006 Ch=770.01875 Pri0 AlgID=82 KeyID=2000 (8192) 5s

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[kg6nlw]

@mlangeveld...You can add Union City PD3, Hayward PD2, and Oakland Parking Enforcement 3, UC Transit - Paratransit, as TDMA now.

Also, ACSO Dispatch 1, Contra Costa Law Interop 4, OPD 3 as PARTIAL Enc...

2021/12/28 10:04:40 Freq=772.843750 NAC=1F1 Enc Group call; TG=3705 [ACSO DSP1] RID=3011002 Ch=769.86875 Pri0 AlgID=82 KeyID=E940 (59712) 5s
2021/12/28 11:20:27 Freq=772.543750 NAC=1F1 Enc Group call; TG=3407 [OPD PD3] RID=3204204 Ch=772.54375 Pri0 AlgID=22 KeyID=1800 (6144) 22s
2021/12/28 11:37:59 Freq=772.843750 NAC=1F1 Enc Group call; TG=3657 [UNION CITY PD3 (TDMA)] RID=3276035 Ch=769.86875-1 Alg=ADP KeyID=0140 (320)
2021/12/28 11:37:59 Freq=769.868750 NAC=1F1 Enc Group call; TG=3657 [UNION CITY PD3 (TDMA)] RID=3276035 Alg=ADP KeyID=0140 (320)
2021/12/28 19:11:51 Freq=853.737500 NAC=1F0 Enc Group call; TG=1018 [COCO LAW 4] Ch=851.3625 Pri0 Alg=ADP KeyID=0140 (320) 3s

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[officer_415]

@mlangeveld...You can add Union City PD3, Hayward PD2, and Oakland Parking Enforcement 3, UC Transit - Paratransit, as TDMA now.

Also, ACSO Dispatch 1, Contra Costa Law Interop 4, OPD 3 as PARTIAL Enc...

Done. CCCO Law 4 was already listed as full ENC.

 

[mcjones2013]

Except for those ADP ones, I think some of the other encryption logs you posted may have been bad reads. I’ve had DSDPlus report voice traffic as encrypted before while at the same time I have it on my scanner as unencrypted. Usually it’s due to a bad signal that DSDPlus is receiving.

 

[kg6nlw]

Except for those ADP ones, I think some of the other encryption logs you posted may have been bad reads. I’ve had DSDPlus report voice traffic as encrypted before while at the same time I have it on my scanner as unencrypted. Usually it’s due to a bad signal that DSDPlus is receiving.

I would tend to agree it was bad reads, but just in case I figured posting it would either get your response or give people a heads up...

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[kg6nlw]

Done. CCCO Law 4 was already listed as full ENC.

Thanks! Going back and forth between the DB and my logs I can miss stuff like that even though I'm trying to carefully cross-reference everything.

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[officer_415]

Except for those ADP ones, I think some of the other encryption logs you posted may have been bad reads.

I would tend to agree it was bad reads

Agreed. I also received information that EBRCS uses strapped encryption (specific talkgroups are either ENC or not) so there is no “partial” encryption on the system. I changed those talkgroups back to clear.

 

[kg6nlw]

@mlangeveld You can add Antioch as TDMA. That's about all for today.

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[officer_415]

I discovered Site 10 today, it's a fill-in site for the Hiddenbrooke area of Vallejo. I'll add it to the DB shortly.

 

[kg6nlw]

Must've gone online since 1/2 as there wasn't anything being broadcast then.

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[kg6nlw]

Looks like at the end of 2021 EBRCS got some new frequencies assigned to them in Martinez, possibly part of CoCo West/Central and Vallejo?

770.53125
771.08125
771.75625
772.05625
772.35625
772.65625
772.88125
773.15625
773.90625
774.18125
774.45625
774.73125

Regards,

-Frank C.

 

[Outerdog]

The CCCO Central Prime Site located at 651 Pine St is being moved. The building on which it currently sits is going away and a new county admin building is going in its place. My understanding is the site is going up on the hills WSW of 651 Pine St. The new site will be turned up before the existing infrastructure is turned down, removed, and the whole building demolished.

I'm not familiar with the timeline, but 651 Pine is fenced off inside a construction zone now, and asbestos and lead remediation activities are underway throughout the building.

It's rather curious that the fate of the site wasn't known when EBRCS was being built out. Millions will be spent to move this site.

Here are some pictures of 651 Pine, just for fun, taken on a site walk several months back. My employer will be doing the temporary power and electrical demolition work in the building while supporting the existing utilities and communications for the radio system.

https://imgur.com/a/TAxtziL

 

[pb3400]

I occasionally listen to Oakland police patrol 1/2/3 on a uniden 436. Tonight around 10:00pm somecome came on patrol 3 and asked all 200 shift to switch to SRS3 channel. After a whole lot of ack’s, all Oakland talkgroups seem to have gone quiet, now for almost 3 hours. I don’t see any record for SRS3 channel in the db, but from SRS1/2 I see they are fully encrypted. Has Oakland been doing this much? Anyone know their plans, are they going encrypted immenently?

Update: Right around 1am I started hearing traffic on patrol 3 again…, but still it seems awfully quiet.

 

[Icanhearit]

seldom purely tracking OAK patrol only, but last hours Patrol 3 logged 42 sessions, hopefully this is back to normal.

 

[officer_415]

I checked Broadcastify calls after seeing that post last night, and traffic seemed normal.

 

[maaavy]

Admittedly ignorant here.
Anyone have info on Pittsburg PD?
I have a HomePatrol-1 and as of a couple weeks ago I'm not able to pick anything up. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[officer_415]

Admittedly ignorant here.
Anyone have info on Pittsburg PD?
I have a HomePatrol-1 and as of a couple weeks ago I'm not able to pick anything up. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

They have switched to P25 Phase II (TDMA), so your Homepatrol-1 will not be able to pick them up. You will need a Phase II-capable scanner.

 

[maaavy]

They have switched to P25 Phase II (TDMA), so your Homepatrol-1 will not be able to pick them up. You will need a Phase II-capable scanner.

Thanks for the info.
Do you have a recommendation on a scanner? I was looking at Homepatrol-2 or BCD436HP.