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GTR8000

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Currently Brooklyn NYPD channels are IN THE CLEAR
#1 You need to be more specific when making a statement like that. The analog channels are as they have always been, nothing has changed.

#2 The P25 channels are 100% encrypted, and as more analog channels are converted over to P25, that trend will continue.
 

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Does anyone know if PD will stream (with delay), like Chicago does? If so, that's a positive that comes out of all this.
 

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Staten Island has made a few attempts to secede. If they ever manage to pass it, then they will have their own police and fire departments to run their own way.
 

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From the artice:

"By mandating real-time access to police radio communications, we risk exposing sensitive tactical information, which could be exploited by criminals and jeopardize ongoing investigations or emergency responses.”

"If so, and that’s a big if, that may be the price we have to pay to ensure that we have an accountable and transparent NYPD."

They basically said it's OK to expose sensitive tactical comms. So, its ok to give my surveillance team members positions out trying to bed down a target wanted for shooting a cop? Is the price I pay to get ambushed and shot as well to make sure the Staten Island Press and public have their "right" to listen restored ?

The wanna be journalist who wrote that can EAFD.
 

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From the artice:

"By mandating real-time access to police radio communications, we risk exposing sensitive tactical information, which could be exploited by criminals and jeopardize ongoing investigations or emergency responses.”

"If so, and that’s a big if, that may be the price we have to pay to ensure that we have an accountable and transparent NYPD."

They basically said it's OK to expose sensitive tactical comms. So, its ok to give my surveillance team members positions out trying to bed down a target wanted for shooting a cop? Is the price I pay to get ambushed and shot as well to make sure the Staten Island Press and public have their "right" to listen restored ?

The wanna be journalist who wrote that can EAFD.
That is not the position of responsible individuals and organizations that are advocating for access to police dispatch communications.
 

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While I agree that it is sensible to encrypt certain kinds of tactical comms, I must also ask where the research is that demonstrates any connection between scanner use (particularly in monitoring complex radio systems) and evasion of capture. In fact, there are accounts available of perps possessing radios, but we know about those radios because said perps were caught anyway.
 

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While I agree that it is sensible to encrypt certain kinds of tactical comms, I must also ask where the research is that demonstrates any connection between scanner use (particularly in monitoring complex radio systems) and evasion of capture. In fact, there are accounts available of perps possessing radios, but we know about those radios because said perps were caught anyway.
Of course you are 100% correct. No one is advocating for clear communications on sensitive tac channels... For officer safety we recommended a 10 minute to 30 minute delay to the public on dispatch channels with 100% encryption on tac channels. There's absolutely no excuse for locking the public out of police dispatch communications entirely. Some the excuses that are made on here to totally encrypt police communications with no access whatsoever to the public is totally ridiculous
 

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If you look at the data for "Year to Date" The crime rate in Brooklyn North it is barely any different. 2023 unencrypted and 2024 encrypted. Always will agree Tac should be encrypted but dispatch is another story. I think most people will be happy with the way Chicago PD set up their access to the public.
 

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richee2000

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If you look at the data for "Year to Date" The crime rate in Brooklyn North it is barely any different. 2023 unencrypted and 2024 encrypted. Always will agree Tac should be encrypted but dispatch is another story. I think most people will be happy with the way Chicago PD set up their access to the public.
I 100% agree with you. Great to have some common sense on here!!
 

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If you look at the data for "Year to Date" The crime rate in Brooklyn North it is barely any different. 2023 unencrypted and 2024 encrypted. Always will agree Tac should be encrypted but dispatch is another story. I think most people will be happy with the way Chicago PD set up their access to the public.
Some of the Tac channels have selectable encryption enabled. Left one of my portables scanning the Tacs for NYPD and FDNY and picked up Tac Q (460.1875, 210.7) and picked up the AES256 rambling sounds. I’m aware this freq. is also shared with Corrections’ “Tactical Search Ops 2” which is on a DPL of 072. Later on that day picked up another Tac (can’t remember which one because I was away) that did the exact same thing but extremely choppy as opposed to crystal clear like Tac Q. I’m aware that Tac G & H have selectable encryption (an ESU cop that showed me his radio when I asked him what kind of radio he had told me). Tac should almost always be on E unless it’s casual chatter or nonsense.
 
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