Everything NYPD encryption.
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Danny37
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Might be the last to go since its much more complex. I'm assuming the same will be for Manhattan (all the buildings) and Queens (Hilly terrain)
What does any of that have to do with them either using or not using encryption?
Danny37
Member
You should read that again. I said Queens, Manhattan and Transit will probably be the last to go due to those conditions. I'm not saying it's not happening.
I read it fine the first time, and I don't think you understand what I am asking. What do those factors have to do with why they would be last?
I don't quite get where you are coming from with your statement.
Danny37
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Um because difficult situations tend to take more time. I thinks it's funny how people who aren't even from the city and have no clue on the complex system feel the need to chime in and be rude for no reason. So let me be civilized, bronx was already in the process of switching to E but had some hiccups so they reverted back. Half of the borough of brooklyn is already E so it only makes sense Brooklyn South will go E. Then the last few should be Queens, Manhattan and transit. There you go. Happy now
DeoVindice
P25 Underground
P25 has superior performance to narrowband analog in those types of conditions, and encrypting P25 does not impact range unlike old Securenet stuff. Nothing difficult about it.
Danny37
Member
More or less wasn't about P25 vs P25E but going from analog to P25. It was my understanding with digital that you either have a signal or you don't no in-between like analog with breaking up static. The analog system already has some dead spots so I'm sure they're working on it
So you are just guessing because you do not know. Because you are not the Vender nor the Customer. If you knew anything about RF you would know the going Digital on the same frequency at the same transmitting spot at the same power will increase the range of the system.
12dbsinad
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You increase the intelligibility of the system throughout it's coverage area. RF doesn't magically go farther by going digital. If you have a dead spot you'll continue to have said dead spot.
No what we found when we went mixed system Analog and DMR and tested the same Radios at the same spot at the same time.
Just to make this with us more clear. We went from not getting in or hearing the repeater on Analog to being able to hit the repeater and use the radio system on DMR in the same spot.
Just to make this with us more clear. We went from not getting in or hearing the repeater on Analog to being able to hit the repeater and use the radio system on DMR in the same spot.
Didn't you just rudely accuse me of not knowing about these systems, pretending to be all high and mighty, when in fact you clearly lack your own understanding of how they work? I was never rude, I asked a question. You decided to be an a-- in your reply. Move on now.
Danny37
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Yeah, no thanks. A deadspot is a deadspot. Digital won't magically make it disappear. Tell that to an LEO family when they called for help and no one answered. But an analog deadspot was apparently fixed for being "Digital"
Another member pointed it out as well, not my high and mighty a$$
W1KNE consider the Source
The poster has done displayed lack of knowledge of radio systems
The poster has done displayed lack of knowledge of radio systems
Each division, when going digital is completely changing. Each division is being transitioned to a simulcast footprint. That’s why it’s taking so long. It’s not just a matter of “flicking a switch”.
718164878013
The Magnificent
I remember this (Bronx going E then having to revert back). If I’m not mistaken, there was a vehicle pursuit that spilled into Westchester County from the Bronx commands and everything got bad on the E side (RF coverage and the relative area they were in) that they went from CW 4 over to a different CW all together or a precinct zone because their transmissions weren’t making it to the repeaters. If I’m not mistaken, it started over in the 50/52 area (which was supposed to be the first BX channel to go E) into the 46/48, 42/44, 40/41, 43/45 into the 47/49, if I’m not mistaken it was the 52 SOL and Bronx Larceny Squad chasing someone and it spilled all the way into Mamaroneck or slightly farther and when they were calling for an additional car because they got left behind for a few, that’s where the issue arose. A friend of mine (NYPD) had asked me if I knew why that happened (he was involved in that pursuit) and I told him along the lines of what you and a few others mentioned (RF, strength, general conditions, etc). I personally think Bronx will be third to last (then Transit and civilian MOS such as SSD, TED and Auxiliary).
MarkHamSSE5000
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It will be interesting to see how the access for Auxiliaries will be handled as they use a pool of command based portables working on the precinct zones.
Danny37
Member
Auxiliary Coordinators safeguard the radios and they're logged when taken in and out for service.
I bet they'll get the hand me downs tho, probably the vx-P824. I remember when all the UMOS got the vx-537, the Auxiliaries were given their old sabers to use.
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MarkHamSSE5000
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I would think the hand me down would be the APX900, er, VX-P949's. Heck, at one point School Safety was trying out the XTS1500.
