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[hitechRadio]

YES, Encrypting TAC channels is understandable for an incident like this..... Encrypting Dispatch is not the right way to go.... The NYPD and City of NY will use this incident to push their horrendus agenda to Encrypt 100%

Would you be OK with primary dispatch channel in the clear and the officers talking back to dispatch encrypted?

 

[richee2000]

Would you be OK with primary dispatch channel in the clear and the officers talking back to dispatch encrypted?

There is no reason to Encrypt every day dispatch comms. There is every reason to Encrypt sensitive comms on Tac channels. If you are concerned about officer safety, then the answer is to allow the public to listen in, but with a 10 minute delay, like Chicago and Baltimore

 

[richee2000]

 

[richee2000]

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We fully support this senator's bill to keep police radio unencrypted. The New York press fully supports this bill also.

 

[hitechRadio]

There is no reason to Encrypt every day dispatch comms. There is every reason to Encrypt sensitive comms on Tac channels. If you are concerned about officer safety, then the answer is to allow the public to listen in, but with a 10 minute delay, like Chicago and Baltimore

So what if let say, that no 10 minute delay, dispatchers in the clear and officers encrypted on the everyday dispatch channel. Would you be OK with that?

 

[richee2000]

Negative. The press, City council members, senators, and multiple community watch groups are advocating for transparency. That would be full transparency not half. The best compromise is exactly what Chicago police and Baltimore Police did and that is offer clear communications to the public with a 10 minute delay... Both sides of the conversation... A dispatched call with no other communications is somewhat irrelevant to the actual conclusion to the event. It's like watching half of the movie... Or reading half of the book. Negative.

Police departments have the option of changing to a secure encrypted tac channel for sensitive communications.

All precinct communications should be in the clear. (With a delay if necessary for officer safety)

 

[hitechRadio]

Trying to wrap my head around the point of against ENC on primary channel for the officer, but OK with a 10min delay.

If I was giving the option, I would be OK with dispatchers in the clear, officers encrypted and no 10 minute delay.

Otherwise what's the point, especially for community watch groups.

 

[richee2000]

Trying to wrap my head around the point of against ENC on primary channel for the officer, but OK with a 10min delay.

If I was giving the option, I would be OK with dispatchers in the clear, officers encrypted and no 10 minute delay.

Otherwise what's the point, especially for community watch groups.

As I'm sure you are aware, there are many dispatch calls which are unfounded or are possibly false calls... By listening to only dispatch calls you do not get a full picture of what is actually happening. Kind of useless for most purposes. A 10-minute delay would still give the full accounting of crime in someone's neighborhood.

 

[chrismol1]

Yea thats something I've occasionally wondered about agencies that leave dispatch unencrypted as a point of transparency. I don't know how it is there but around me, having dispatch only clear would leave the transparency to the initial dispatch and that's all because often they don't always repeat information from units in the field unless its a significant incident of some sort. Instead all you'd be hearing is a string of "received" or "10-4s" to every response and/or the time. Not trying to argue anything, just making an observation

 

[richee2000]

YES, Encrypting TAC channels is understandable for an incident like this..... Encrypting Dispatch is not the right way to go.... The NYPD and City of NY will use this incident to push their horrendus agenda to Encrypt 100%

Yea thats something I've occasionally wondered about agencies that leave dispatch unencrypted as a point of transparency. I don't know how it is there but around me, having dispatch only clear would leave the transparency to the initial dispatch and that's all because often they don't always repeat information from units in the field unless its a significant incident of some sort. Instead all you'd be hearing is a string of "received" or "10-4s" to every response and/or the time. Not trying to argue anything, just making an observation

Totally agree

 

[richee2000]

Today: NY Daily News:

NYPD radio encryption harms the public’s rights

Since 1936, journalists have provided New Yorkers with real-time lifesaving information about dangerous and newsworthy activity in their neighborhoods. They have warned people about train accidents…

www.nydailynews.com

 

[ctadam12]

What does "De" mean? Baltimore is displaying this.

 

[W1KNE]

What does "De" mean? Baltimore is displaying this.

If you mean in the Database, D is FDMA digital, lower case 'e' means partially encrypted. A capital 'E' means fully encrypted.

 

[KD8FSJ]

There is no reason to Encrypt every day dispatch comms.

There sure is. Support gains momentum by the day.

 

[Bob1955]

Going to miss listening to SOD.

470.8375 is (was) the best frequency.

 

[richee2000]

There sure is. Support gains momentum by the day.

Hopefully the New York State bills to outlaw dispatch Encrypted frequencies will prevail. There is more and more evidence every day against encrypting dispatch communications, and the harm it causes.

 

[KD8FSJ]

Hopefully the New York State bills to outlaw dispatch Encrypted frequencies will prevail. There is more and more evidence every day against encrypting dispatch communications, and the harm it causes.

Hopefully the New York State bills to outlaw dispatch Encrypted frequencies will prevail. There is more and more evidence every day against encrypting dispatch communications, and the harm it causes.

Good luck on that bill.

 

[richee2000]

Good luck on that bill.

Thank you. We have a huge amount of support from the New York Media and the New York press as well as many neighborhood watch groups throughout New York City.

 

[richee2000]

@GTR8000 aside from the deep pockets and legal teams from national Media and national press, 2 New York State Senate bills, a New York City council bill, many neighborhood watch groups, we also have the deep pockets and power of the citizens app behind us.

Keep laughing! 🤡

 

[richee2000]

Over and out? Public Advocate Jumaane Williams says keeping public access to NYPD radios more critical in wake of Win Rozario police shooting | amNewYork

Weeks after 19-year-old Win Rozario was shot to death by police during a mental health crisis, Public Advocate Jumaane Williams and other elected officials

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