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Being a lifelong New Yorker and someone who monitors on a daily basis and manages 3 large sites and BMS, I can confirm that 95% of the information in this post is hearsay and garbage.
I work in an environment that provides an ARC systems for NYPD as well as FDNY and there has been no talk of upgrading to anything encrypted.
The company I work for works closely with many city agencies and we also have 2 direct lines to both radio systems on our ARCS which is legally required by NYC and FDNY codes in buildings over 75 feet tall. We also have a direct patch on our current radio system to FDNY at all 3 buildings I manage which are above 30 stories.
I do believe that digital is coming soon with rolling encryption, but because of the need to be linked in, (Like 1/3 WTC, 30 Rock, Carnegie Hall) and other major sites that depend on ARCS, the city would have notified us by now.
2 of 3 of the control rooms I visit on a daily basis have citywide feeds in the consoles on top of other channels utilized by the city or state for emergency response.
We also are legally required to provide a minimum of 15 in house radios to responding FDNY units at the FCP and command center that can link into the ARCS.
If anything, I believe the citywide and SOD channels will go E as well as all the simplex tac channels. But anyone's guess is as good as mine at this point.


My man, the Zones are in the radios, period. Every single new NYPD radio has an encrypted zone to mirror its analog zone. Maybe in your little world you’re a major player because “2 or 3 control rooms have feeds”.

It’s coming, but the NYPD is a big slow lumbering ship that takes a long time to turn.
 

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Lol yes. My little world. I’ll take my facts over yours any day of the week. But only time will tell and we will all eventually be in the dark right?
 

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Lol yes. My little world. I’ll take my facts over yours any day of the week. But only time will tell and we will all eventually be in the dark right?


Have you seen an APX radio? Or are you just going by “your facts”?
 

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I’m not arguing with a fool from NJ. Facts are above. Read as many times as you like.
goodnight 😘
 

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Stop it. Just stop it. One warning. No need to reply to this.
 

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WTF????
we got a name for keyboard warriors from NJ,
Jerk off jersey boys.
Lol. All in good fun. But we shall see right? It’s out of our hands if they encrypt. But for my job, the city will eventually take care of us without us having to incur cost of the equipment they require.
 

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we got a name for keyboard warriors from NJ,
Jerk off jersey boys.
Lol. All in good fun. But we shall see right? It’s out of our hands if they encrypt. But for my job, the city will eventually take care of us without us having to incur cost of the equipment they require.

Why???? Just why????
 

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What does this mean? Certain officers already have access to P25 (encrypted) freqs that mirror the analog freqs?

Likely, yes. It's not uncommon when planning a new radio system to have the new channels in the programming template so transition can happen without having to touch each new radio as it hits the field. They might not actually work if you try to use the new channel (right now), but they're in the radio already for when the changeover happens.
 

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Likely, yes. It's not uncommon when planning a new radio system to have the new channels in the programming template so transition can happen without having to touch each new radio as it hits the field. They might not actually work if you try to use the new channel (right now), but they're in the radio already for when the changeover happens.

The radios with the simplex P25 Encrypted channels could work, if programmed the same....
 
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Currently, the department APX NEXT radios do not have P25 or encrypted zones in them. They currently only have the current analog conventional frequencies in them with the exception of one or two P25E channels.
 

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Those do have cloned zones with P25 and encryption in them last I saw one, as well as many other zones for interoperability. But the 8000’s are only issued to ESU and ESU K-9.
What does ESU use the P25E zones for? I've only ever heard them reference division (the PCT freqs), SOD citywide and TAC G, which are all analog, unencrypted freqs.
 

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Those do have cloned zones with P25 and encryption in them last I saw one, as well as many other zones for interoperability. But the 8000’s are only issued to ESU and ESU K-9.
I thought the newer APX digital radios were incompatible with analog frequencies, which was why the NYPD was stuck using Vertex radios that were made exclusively for them?
 
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