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G4 in Trunking Free Scan mode User defined scanning Test
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mdsxfire
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Was it 64 per system of for the entire scan list?
You can scan upto 8 Knob Positions with upto 64 TG in Each Knob Position.
64 tgid’s per system/knob position(max the pps will allow) but you can link up to 8 knob positions.
The only thing is you will only see alpha tags for the knob position the pager is on. So if you have knob 1,2,3 linked and the pager is physically on knob 1 you will see the alpha tags for knob 1 and only tgid numbers for knobs 2,3. The ideal thing would be to have more than 64 tgid’s per pps system.
If your systems are small enough, add all the tgid’s into knob 1 (up to 64 tgid’s) and set up the other knobs with the site info and at least 1 tgid(pps requires) and link those knobs to the knob with all tgid’s and you will see all alpha tags while scanning the sites/systems. The other thing to keep in mind is it will only hear comms on the entered tgid’s. It’s a tgid scan mode only not a monitor mode.
There will possibly be a mode that is more like a monitor mode that is used to create scan list for multiple sites/systems called “user defined”. Once the scan list is manually created, by saving tgid’s manually on the pager, it works much like the linked knob mode if you want to scan the created list. You can keep it in the “search mode” or re enter the “search mode” while in user defined mode. I think they are waiting for final details on that and how it will be set up in the pps.
*If this is incorrect please correct.
This is beta so it’s subject to change.
Live not best quality video ,sorry.The G4 is scanning between 2 knob positions.
lsh1885
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Nice to see the firmware now has TG-Delay. Everything is looking good.
mitbr
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So is it in Beta yet or still in Alpha??
lsh1885
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Still Alpha
In your video, the PPS C7 PTGL indicates the TGID Max is 64 per system. This would still restrict me to 64 TGs per system no matter how many TGs I enter across multiple Knob positions if they are in the same system, correct? If so, is Unication planning to remove that limitation?
Yes 64 TGID’s per system. But when 2 knob positions are linked that becomes 128 or more depending upon how many knob positions you link.
It is a tgid scan mode. So if your system has more than 64 tgid’s or you want to listen to more than 1 site/system you will need to link more than 1 knob position to hear them all. The other thing is you will only see tgid alpha tags (64)for the knob position the pager is on but hear and see tgid numbers for all other linked systems. If you have 2 systems you want to hear with with 64 tgid’s you can put all tgid’s in knob 1 position with 1 system site info and set up knob 2 with the Other system site info (With 1 tgid,pps requirement) and link them and it will scan both systems and you will see alpha tags for both. That’s the best Case scenario I’ve seen so far to see alpha tags.
*If this is incorrect please correct.
This is still in alpha beta and subject to change.
Nice work Jeff ! Are there plans to update the display by offering more characters up to 16, or maybe remove the [parenthesis] ?
Add Icons or badges that you can assign to systems?
Thanks for the info. To add more to the conversation and make sure that I understand correctly... I should be able to enter all of the TGs for Montgomery County Ohio (one system and many more than 64 TGs total) across multiple Knob positions and then link those knob positions, scan the linked Knob positions and then be able to see the Alpha Tags associated with each of these TGs as they become active?
Yes for linking the knobs but no for seeing all alpha tags. If you have knob positions A,B,C linked and the pager is physically on position A, you will only see alpha tags that are in knob position A but you will still hear B,C but only see the numeric tgid. If you are on knob B it will see those alpha tags but not A,C. You can be in knob position D ,even though it is not linked at all,and still hear A,B,C but you will not see any alpha tags. Only the numeric tgid.
It’s kind of confusing when not physically doing the steps and things could still change so I‘d be hesitant to post a video of the steps until it’s in beta unless someone wants to.
I’m not a software/hardware engineer so this statement could be wrong but it appears that the pager is possibly not able to handle more than 64 tgid’s in 1 system at a time. Or they may just not want to put the man hour cost into going that deep with it at this time. Or maybe they are planning to build a scanner. Wishful thinking but it doesn’t hurt to dream. Either way this is a plus for the scanner(Multi site/system scanning,tgid hold/delay etc.) and duty users (tgid hold,tgid delay)
Thank you. That helps! I love the G5 and look forward to future firmware and product updates.
mdsxfire
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I thought I read that going forward from here the firmware updates were likely going to be split, personal/scanner usage and pager usage, has there been any word on what the public safety pager side firmware is going to update.
New small alpha update today fixed issue with Scan List -TG Delay and Site Stay Settings.
TG delay from 1-60 sec
Site Stay from 1-600 sec
Works well
TG delay from 1-60 sec
Site Stay from 1-600 sec
Works well
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* Update: when in PTGL scan list you must put tgid’s in the linked knob and the knob the pager is on to see the alpha tags. I was mistaken and thought we could get by just linking the knob with the site info to the knob with the tgid to get alpha tags.
My linked knobs had tgid’s in both knob position so I missed this. Thanks Trido for the correction.
In trunking free scan user defined mode when scanning a scan list or doing freq range scan it appears it only needs to have tgid in the knob position the pager is on to see alpha tags. User defined has ability to scan a user created list or monitor between set freq range.
This is still Alpha so it could change.
We also can use TG wildcard 65535 this will allow scanning more than 64 TG per system.
I setup knob position 1 my local 800 system with 50 TG.Then knob position 3 my State wide system one site with ONLY TG 65535 it works like MONITOR mode as in TG ID search.
I setup knob position 1 my local 800 system with 50 TG.Then knob position 3 my State wide system one site with ONLY TG 65535 it works like MONITOR mode as in TG ID search.
So is it possible to scan Knob 1 P25, Knob 2 conventional, and Knob 3 DMR , all at the same time?
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