Home Patrol Questions and Answers- Please # your question

[ka3jjz]

I have a feeling that this thread will have many such questions/answers - a good place to copy these to would be the wiki, and it would insure that nothing disappears, lost in the sea of messages. One would only need to point to the article and that would be it....Even if someone were to collect them in Word, it would be simple, using a macro, to change most of it to a wiki format....73 Mike

 

[Viper43]

Jeff,

In Sentinel go to EDIT PROFILE and in the Favorites set LOCATION CONTROL to NO and you should then hear ISP off the tower at 5 miles.
You can also do this through the favorites menu in scanner as well. This turns off the location control and it takes care of the issue on SAFET since for some odd reason it hasn't been geotagged which I thought it had been.

V

 

[Viper43]

I have a feeling that this thread will have many such questions/answers - a good place to copy these to would be the wiki, and it would insure that nothing disappears, lost in the sea of messages. One would only need to point to the article and that would be it....Even if someone were to collect them in Word, it would be simple, using a macro, to change most of it to a wiki format....73 Mike

Or go to HomePatrol and the forums for help as well.

V

 

[Viper43]

Additional info to Jeffs question I answered

Jeff, and others

If when you hear a transmission you tap the right upper corner a menu will pop up select the second choice SITES and it will show you the active site your hearing. If you then select that site it will give you info for that site as well, including Lat/Lon etc. Even the frequencies (lower right).
Now if your scanning the whole state it can be misleading, but you can avoid those sites by selecting Avoid so you can scan things quicker by not scanning all the sites. You can also set that up through SENTINEL by AVOIDING the sites you don't want to scan. It will speed up scanning the systems such as large multi-site systems if you don't scan every site. It takes a second or two for each site and with 147+ sites on SAFET it can take a while to scan SAFET.

V

 

[pwscott]

Home Patrol Forums

I have been checking the HomePatrol forums but honestly, that page doesn;t work very well for me in Firefox 3.6.10. It feels a bit like it was just thrown together in shareware (Joomla)...for example, if you try to fill in your profile for the Forums...at least for me here, I get a BLACK background with almost illegible text and I can't even edit my profile. Hopefully they will get better with time and some investment, but for me they're useful only in the most basic way.

Or go to HomePatrol and the forums for help as well.

V

 

[Viper43]

Hmmm, looks fine in IE, don't know why it's shouldn't be OK in FF but I haven't looked at it with that. I'll try it and see.

Well, I just looked and it looks just as good as it does with IE, nice clean clear page and text. Must be a setting somewhere on your system.

V

 

[ka3jjz]

Or go to HomePatrol and the forums for help as well.

V

I have FF 3.6.10, and have no issues here - I viewed just a couple of questions...there's also a Yahoo group for this radio

Home Patrol Yahoo Group

Anyway the forum on that page has exactly the same issue - sooner or later the same question will come up that was answered weeks earlier, and it may not be so easy to find it again.

If someone were to create a Word document and catalog the tips/tricks and fixes, then it could be easily converted to a wiki article which can be referred to without a great deal of searching

73 Mike

 

[n9nwo]

Jeff, and others

If when you hear a transmission you tap the right upper corner a menu will pop up select the second choice SITES and it will show you the active site your hearing. If you then select that site it will give you info for that site as well, including Lat/Lon etc. Even the frequencies (lower right).
Now if your scanning the whole state it can be misleading, but you can avoid those sites by selecting Avoid so you can scan things quicker by not scanning all the sites. You can also set that up through SENTINEL by AVOIDING the sites you don't want to scan. It will speed up scanning the systems such as large multi-site systems if you don't scan every site. It takes a second or two for each site and with 147+ sites on SAFET it can take a while to scan SAFET.

V

Shouldn't you be able to have the sites GPS linked instead?

 

[trido]

Thanks, yes this works however for my local customers that know nothing about scanning this will be a real pain.The calls will poor in I cant hears ISP disp.
However one other way around it will be for me to tell them to use city and state NOT zip code, down here that worked cause city and state range default is 20 miles.

Well I sure dont understand this geo tag, I can see range for all Safet talk groups using Sent software looks like issue maybe ISP talk groups are set at 90 miles and that should be set at 180 miles. I think that would help.

Jeff,

In Sentinel go to EDIT PROFILE and in the Favorites set LOCATION CONTROL to NO and you should then hear ISP off the tower at 5 miles.
You can also do this through the favorites menu in scanner as well. This turns off the location control and it takes care of the issue on SAFET since for some odd reason it hasn't been geotagged which I thought it had been.

V

 

[trido]

Hp-1 firmware upgrade

Surprised HP-1 was not shipped with latest firmware.
I have been searching any one find out what changed in this upgrade?

 

[pwscott]

Home Patrol Webpage Forums

I know the forums look OK, I was saying that other parts of the forums page like the MY PROFILE Section area are all black here and mostly illegible in FF or IE. Screenshots attached.

Hmmm, looks fine in IE, don't know why it's shouldn't be OK in FF but I haven't looked at it with that. I'll try it and see.

Well, I just looked and it looks just as good as it does with IE, nice clean clear page and text. Must be a setting somewhere on your system.

V

 

[Viper43]

Not sure why, they look fine on my end with IE or FF....

V

 

[Viper43]

Thanks, yes this works however for my local customers that know nothing about scanning this will be a real pain.The calls will poor in I cant hears ISP disp.
However one other way around it will be for me to tell them to use city and state NOT zip code, down here that worked cause city and state range default is 20 miles.

Well I sure dont understand this geo tag, I can see range for all Safet talk groups using Sent software looks like issue maybe ISP talk groups are set at 90 miles and that should be set at 180 miles. I think that would help.

Hmmm, not sure who set up SAFET, last I looked it hadn't been set up. One thing that hits me is whoeverr did it made ALL counties 20 miles, some should be much smaller and others much larger. And the State Fairgrounds should be 5 miles NOT 25. Statewide channels are right at 180miles. DOT and ISP districts should be different than what they are listed, not every district is 60 miles and ISP not every district covers 90 miles. So from what I see "someone" just threw this together and did not actually take time to do it right which is why the odd reception. ISP districts should be measured out and the ranges from that used and not ASSUMED. The range used is half the longest measurement so if the county is 30 miles by 23 you use 15 miles, anywhere in that county you will hear the talkgroups/channels. One ISP district may 60 miles and another 22. But the only channels that should be 180 miles are right, the statewide tgids

V

 

[cg]

PWScott mentioned the "Waterbury PD" came up on his screen. Now Waterbury uses a LTR Multinet trunked system and there is no other Waterbury PD listings in the DB. (unless perhaps he misread Watertown PD)

My question would be regarding systems that are unscannable by this product such as Passport or Multinet and unmonitorable TGs such as encrypted ones. Are these filtered out of the RR Database that is used?

Also, in a relatively small area like Hartford CT, there are 7 different trunked systems plus conventional channels within 15 miles of the I-84/I-91 intersection. In traditional Uniden scanners, it takes at least 1 second to scan each different system (8 seconds to scan 1 cycle). Is that limitation still in place, have the geo-tags been done with this in mind or is there something new in this radio that will allow for quicker scanning between systems

chris

 

[KE4ZNR]

PWScott mentioned the "Waterbury PD" came up on his screen. Now Waterbury uses a LTR Multinet trunked system and there is no other Waterbury PD listings in the DB. (unless perhaps he misread Watertown PD)

My question would be regarding systems that are unscannable by this product such as Passport or Multinet and unmonitorable TGs such as encrypted ones. Are these filtered out of the RR Database that is used?

Paul has said before that as long as the talkgroups/channels are tagged correctly in the RR.com database with the "E" Encrypted for the mode then they will be skipped.
Also non-monitorable systems such as Opensky and Provoice are skipped.

Also, in a relatively small area like Hartford CT, there are 7 different trunked systems plus conventional channels within 15 miles of the I-84/I-91 intersection. In traditional Uniden scanners, it takes at least 1 second to scan each different system (8 seconds to scan 1 cycle). Is that limitation still in place, have the geo-tags been done with this in mind or is there something new in this radio that will allow for quicker scanning between systems

chris

This is where the favorite lists feature really shines...if you select full database then the HP will pick up whatever is in range and within the service types you have selected.
If you want to narrow down the scope to one system or one set of selected talkgroups/channels you set up a favorites list and scan it only.

Marshall KE4ZNR

 

[Viper43]

Unscannable channels/tgid's and systems are all ignored when downloaded by Uniden from the RR DB.

Scanning should take about the same length of time

V

 

[KE4ZNR]

Surprised HP-1 was not shipped with latest firmware.
I have been searching any one find out what changed in this upgrade?

Firmware updates were also available for the XT line of radios soon after they were released.
Just a way to make sure the radio is operating at peak performance.
I am sure if Paul can comment on specifics of firmware updates he will.
Marshall KE4ZNR

 

[Highpockets]

Firmware updates were also available for the XT line of radios soon after they were released.
Just a way to make sure the radio is operating at peak performance.
I am sure if Paul can comment on specifics of firmware updates he will.
Marshall KE4ZNR

Peak performance.

 

[Viper43]

Peak performance.

A tweak here and there, nothing new, if I remember correctly the XT's both had updates when they first came out as did the Pro-96/2096 and most of the recent GRE models. I know when I got the 600 it had an update right away.

V

 

[kayi4cle]

Paul has said before that as long as the talkgroups/channels are tagged correctly in the RR.com database with the "E" Encrypted for the mode then they will be skipped.
Also non-monitorable systems such as Opensky and Provoice are skipped.

Marshall KE4ZNR

I don't have a HP yet, but I do have a question. I monitor a lot of talkgroups that are marked E in the Database, and I know those won't be in the HP according to your post. The thing is that some E TGIDs are in the clear some of the time. Is there a way to monitor some of the E ones if one wants to monitor them? Thanks!