HomePatrol-1 Extreme Upgrade Post-Release Thread

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Sorry, had to step away for a couple of hours.

I still don't have the upgraded version of Sentinel, and I seem to be chasing my tail to get it :)

I tried going to the HomePatrol Sentinel page and the only thing it offers for download is the version that I downloaded, 2.01. That was the last update I did on the radio.

I tried the link that Paul added earlier in the thread, "If you are still having trouble, try: http://108.194.102.129/Sentinel/Home...el_2_02_04.zip" and that didn't work either.

I can't seem to find 2.02.

Somehow I am missing it, but just can't figure out where.

Thanks for your help :)

HomePatrolSentinel < HomePatrol < TWiki
 

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Is the wrong link - that's to the 2.01 update... The correct link, from the newest Upgrade Page is here. Following the steps as presented on that page worked for me..


If you scroll down to the LATEST download (indicated by the date - 07 Jan 2012 ) on the page that I linked to, it's the current version 2.02.04
 
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ok, so, 2.02 is loaded, but now I'm stuck with DB version 1/8.

I tried the option to Clear User Data with no luck. Still showing only Nationwide ARTCC stuff.

I tried manually deleting the DB from the radio itself, with no joy.

I feel like that old lady in the commercial, "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up!" :)

Thanks again.
 

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ok, so, 2.02 is loaded, but now I'm stuck with DB version 1/8.

I tried the option to Clear User Data with no luck. Still showing only Nationwide ARTCC stuff.

I tried manually deleting the DB from the radio itself, with no joy.

I feel like that old lady in the commercial, "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up!" :)

Thanks again.

Check post 669 in this thread. He deleted the Sentinel database on the computer, reconstructed the database in Sentinel, then uploaded to the Home Patrol.
 

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Check post 669 in this thread. He deleted the Sentinel database on the computer, reconstructed the database in Sentinel, then uploaded to the Home Patrol.

Well, checked the Uniden directory and subdirectory for HomePatrol and don't readily see where the database is located to manually delete it.

Thanks again for the patience. I am off to work, so I'll check this again at O Dark Thirty tomorrow morning :)
 

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If you are running W7 the files are in c:\ProgramData\Uniden\HomePatrol_Sentinel\Database.
 

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For Win7 and Vista, the location is: C:\ProgramData\Uniden\HomePatrol_Sentinel\Database
For XP (at least mine) the location is C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Uniden\HomePatrol_Sentinel\Database ...note that you must be displaying "hidden files" on XP to see the Application Data folder..

Oops - teach me to go off line - Thanks, UPMan....

BTW - the page http://info.uniden.com/HomePatrol/HomePatrolSentinel still needs a little more editing ("The latest version of Sentinel is version 2.01, released on September 2, 2011."
 
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I've changed the date stamp on the updated dB so that it should overwrite the 1/8 build, now.
 

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If you are running W7 the files are in c:\ProgramData\Uniden\HomePatrol_Sentinel\Database.

Is there a way this can be changed? What I would like to do is install Sentinel and all of its' associated files to a thumb drive so when I travel all I need to take is a thumb drive and my USB cable. There aren't many places I go that doesn't have a computer available for use.
 

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Is there a way this can be changed? What I would like to do is install Sentinel and all of its' associated files to a thumb drive so when I travel all I need to take is a thumb drive and my USB cable. There aren't many places I go that doesn't have a computer available for use.

I'm not sure that you could install it on a thumb drive. Most windows programs rely on registry database entries and shared files to run properly. Because everything is pretty much on the HP-1, why not update it when you leave (including any favorites) and know you are probably as up to date as you are going to be.

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I'm not sure that you could install it on a thumb drive. Most windows programs rely on registry database entries and shared files to run properly. Because everything is pretty much on the HP-1, why not update it when you leave (including any favorites) and know you are probably as up to date as you are going to be.

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Charlie - I agree with Joe's assessment... There is a possibility though..Check out this how-to on Tomshardware on installing Windows PE (Bart's Preinstalled Environment is the customized version) on a thumb drive. You'd have a complete bootable OS on the drive, can't say how fast it'd be - you would definitely and would want at least USB 2 . This would require the PC you're using it on to be set to boot from USB - which means you might have to change a bios setting in the PC you are borrowing. You could theoretically then install Windows Framework (required) and Sentinel..
 

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Charlie - I agree with Joe's assessment... There is a possibility though..Check out this how-to on Tomshardware on installing Windows PE (Bart's Preinstalled Environment is the customized version) on a thumb drive. You'd have a complete bootable OS on the drive, can't say how fast it'd be - you would definitely and would want at least USB 2 . This would require the PC you're using it on to be set to boot from USB - which means you might have to change a bios setting in the PC you are borrowing. You could theoretically then install Windows Framework (required) and Sentinel..

All I want to do is run Sentinel from a thumbdrive on a Windows based PC. I don't want a "work-a-round". Maybe it can't be done, but maybe it can. Hopefully someone from Uniden can provide a definitive answer. If the answer is that it can't, then so be it, but it never hurts to ask.
 

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All I want to do is run Sentinel from a thumbdrive on a Windows based PC. I don't want a "work-a-round". Maybe it can't be done, but maybe it can. Hopefully someone from Uniden can provide a definitive answer. If the answer is that it can't, then so be it, but it never hurts to ask.

You didn't make it clear that you only wanted an answer from Paul....:D
I counted 37 entries in the registry for the Sentinel, a Dot Net 2.0 installation and an application that uses an installer program and an .msi file. You can't make the registry entries portable, the Dot Net installation binds files to the OS and the .msi file controls both the installation and creates the deinstallation script for that PC. Based on that, you got a potential workaround from somebody who used to have to propose plan B's on this kind of stuff. If Uniden can pull off the type of install you want, my hat's off to 'em...
 

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You didn't make it clear that you only wanted an answer from Paul....:D
I counted 37 entries in the registry for the Sentinel, a Dot Net 2.0 installation and an application that uses an installer program and an .msi file. You can't make the registry entries portable, the Dot Net installation binds files to the OS and the .msi file controls both the installation and creates the deinstallation script for that PC. Based on that, you got a potential workaround from somebody who used to have to propose plan B's on this kind of stuff. If Uniden can pull off the type of install you want, my hat's off to 'em...

I didn't care who answered, as long as it was a definitive answer. I take it you have a background in this type of thing. I don't. I will take your word that, with the current program, it can't be done. That still doesn't keep me from wanting it ;-) I may be the only one who wants this, but I doubt it.

It wasn't that many years ago that the HP-1 was beyond what most people could even hope for, and yet, here it is.

I appreciate your insight into this and your ability to explain it so that I can understand why it can't be done, yet.
 

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Thankfully, the registry isn't as critical as it once was when applications were heavily invested in Visual Basic, COM and Active-X controls.

Most programs written in .NET use a simple configuration file. It is usually named <program-name>.config.

Sure enough, the HomePatrolSentinel.exe file includes a companion file named HomePatrol_Sentinel.exe.config. These config files are almost always XML - which is easy enough to edit in Notepad. Examining that file in Notepad, I see the following section ...

Code:
            <setting name="SentinelFolder" serializeAs="String">
                <value />
            </setting>

I tried an experiment which seems to work. Here's what I did ...

I copied the "HomePatrol Sentinel" folder from C:\Program Files to C:\Temp. I emphasize the word "copied" here. I'm leaving the folder under Program Files as-is.

Next, I double-clicked on C:\TEMP\HomePatrol Sentinel\HomePatrol_Sentinel.exe to make sure it was okay with running from a different folder. It does so I exit the program.

Next, I open the C:\TEMP\HomePatrol Sentinel\HomePatrol_Sentinel.exe.config file in Notepad and edit the above section like so ...

Code:
            <setting name="SentinelFolder" serializeAs="String">
                <value>C:\Maybe</value>
            </setting>

Note that at this point I do NOT have a folder on my C drive named "Maybe".

Again, I double-clicked on C:\TEMP\HomePatrol Sentinel\HomePatrol_Sentinel.exe. It lauches fine, making no complaints. I exit the program. Opening "C:\" in Windows Explorer I see a new folder named "C:\Maybe" has been created (with additional folders underneath). I believe I could copy the contents of "C:\ProgramData\Uniden\HomePatrol_Sentinel" to "C:\Maybe" and the C:\TEMP copy of Sentinel with the modified config file would access it just fine.

I have not gone so far as to use a thumb drive (or radio's the SD memory card for that matter) to verify this works on anything besides the C drive. However, based on a few minutes experimentation (I've spent more time typing this post), I foresee no problems.
 

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Thankfully, the registry isn't as critical as it once was when applications were heavily invested in Visual Basic, COM and Active-X controls.

Most programs written in .NET use a simple configuration file. It is usually named <program-name>.config.

Sure enough, the HomePatrolSentinel.exe file includes a companion file named HomePatrol_Sentinel.exe.config. These config files are almost always XML - which is easy enough to edit in Notepad. Examining that file in Notepad, I see the following section ...

Code:
            <setting name="SentinelFolder" serializeAs="String">
                <value />
            </setting>

I tried an experiment which seems to work. Here's what I did ...

I copied the "HomePatrol Sentinel" folder from C:\Program Files to C:\Temp. I emphasize the word "copied" here. I'm leaving the folder under Program Files as-is.

Next, I double-clicked on C:\TEMP\HomePatrol Sentinel\HomePatrol_Sentinel.exe to make sure it was okay with running from a different folder. It does so I exit the program.

Next, I open the C:\TEMP\HomePatrol Sentinel\HomePatrol_Sentinel.exe.config file in Notepad and edit the above section like so ...

Code:
            <setting name="SentinelFolder" serializeAs="String">
                <value>C:\Maybe</value>
            </setting>

Note that at this point I do NOT have a folder on my C drive named "Maybe".

Again, I double-clicked on C:\TEMP\HomePatrol Sentinel\HomePatrol_Sentinel.exe. It lauches fine, making no complaints. I exit the program. Opening "C:\" in Windows Explorer I see a new folder named "C:\Maybe" has been created (with additional folders underneath). I believe I could copy the contents of "C:\ProgramData\Uniden\HomePatrol_Sentinel" to "C:\Maybe" and the C:\TEMP copy of Sentinel with the modified config file would access it just fine.

I have not gone so far as to use a thumb drive (or radio's the SD memory card for that matter) to verify this works on anything besides the C drive. However, based on a few minutes experimentation (I've spent more time typing this post), I foresee no problems.

Rick: It will still require .Net Framework (2.0) to be installed on the target PC - Right?
 
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