landonjensen
Member
Yup. Sounds like hes off for the night. I love his voice. 
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ICI Trunked System - Posts your new findings here!
karldotcom
Member
I kept hearing Glendale Adventist trying to reach another hospital on TG 33200. Then they identified the "channel" as the Inter Hospital Network. I wonder if we will have some real MEDCOM action like in Orco now.
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Well heard my first similcast on Red 1 and ICIS Red 1, well sort of. ICIS did not sound that great but they are testing it as we speak so. Did not hear the units responding just the dispatch. Progress is being made.
A little while ago also tones on 33856
Chet
A little while ago also tones on 33856
Chet
karldotcom
Member
They said 33856 was Red 9. I heard a warble than sounded like a dying duck.
I get the feeling they may be a little behind schedule, as the testing is going a little late into the evenings. Guess they don't work the standard 8 to 5.
Heard a lot of "reserve" trucks out there in the 700 series, i.e. 711 instead of 11, 731 instead of 31, etc. I figured that was due to Verdugo Fire assigning the standard units to the various fires going on. Could it also be that the standard trucks are "out of service" and being outfitted with the new radios?
Heard a lot of "reserve" trucks out there in the 700 series, i.e. 711 instead of 11, 731 instead of 31, etc. I figured that was due to Verdugo Fire assigning the standard units to the various fires going on. Could it also be that the standard trucks are "out of service" and being outfitted with the new radios?
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karldotcom
Member
I am pretty sure the radios are all installed. The 700 series engines are reserves that are put into service during red flag, and when verdugo strike teams are away.
Although, last night I did hear Engine 12, Engine 712 both dispatched down the street to the 134 freeway. Sounded a little like LAFD in the neighborhood!
(Speaking of which, I heard Glendale Engine 27 on LAFD Valley Dispatch 858.4375 talking to Fire 4 for their trench rescue today....it has been some interesting listening the past week)
Although, last night I did hear Engine 12, Engine 712 both dispatched down the street to the 134 freeway. Sounded a little like LAFD in the neighborhood!
(Speaking of which, I heard Glendale Engine 27 on LAFD Valley Dispatch 858.4375 talking to Fire 4 for their trench rescue today....it has been some interesting listening the past week)
landonjensen
Member
So everything still set for Nov 5th?
karldotcom
Member
Last I heard... 7am
landonjensen
Member
Im guessing that they will page everyone etc, and tell them to turnover to new system?
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landonjensen
Member
Found some new stuff
Multiple Alarm Tones – Those related to BC alerting will be removed from the sequence shortly after Nov. 5 cutover, resulting in a shorter alerting sequence..
BC Alerting – The pagers currently carried by on-duty Ops BC’s will not work after ICIS (trunked pagers are not yet made). Ops BC’s will have to carry a portable at all times. In response to the question, “Should Verdugo tone out the BC’s station, even if it’s the middle of the night, even if it’s only to say one of their units is leaving the city on an auto-aid call?” the consensus was yes.
Multiple Alarm Tones – Those related to BC alerting will be removed from the sequence shortly after Nov. 5 cutover, resulting in a shorter alerting sequence..
BC Alerting – The pagers currently carried by on-duty Ops BC’s will not work after ICIS (trunked pagers are not yet made). Ops BC’s will have to carry a portable at all times. In response to the question, “Should Verdugo tone out the BC’s station, even if it’s the middle of the night, even if it’s only to say one of their units is leaving the city on an auto-aid call?” the consensus was yes.
spock00
Member
I'm not hearing the OAT cell. Have checked settings and not hearing anything. Is the site down for technical reasons?
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Nope, Oat's working fine. Remember, you won't hear anything unless a unit is affiliated on the cell.
spock00
Member
Ok. Can you explain "you won't hear anything unless a unit is affiliated on the cell" ?
I don't recieve the control channel. No data nothing...
Even when I was right under the mountain in the west valley. I should also be able to recieve it from my east valley location no problem. It was months ago when I could recieve it. Any ideas?
I don't recieve the control channel. No data nothing...
Even when I was right under the mountain in the west valley. I should also be able to recieve it from my east valley location no problem. It was months ago when I could recieve it. Any ideas?
His reply was referring to a quality of SmartZone that requires a radio to be affiliated to a tower in order for a talkgroup to be broadcasted. Only the TGs being monitored by radios at a specific site will be broadcasted. But this doesn't sound like it's your issue. I would recheck your programming and make sure you have all the control channels in your radio.spock00 said:
karldotcom
Member
Nah, you got to drive into Santa Clarita to hear it. Or Ventura County. The antennas are pointed away from the Valley.
spock00
Member
With an outdoor antenna I can receive the control channel with the squelch at 0. It is so weak though. They must have the antennas pointed away from the valley. Oat blankets my area otherwise. I don't see the value of what they are doing to the system. Why not use omni-directional and cover the whole area? Neither Ventura county or SCV are real areas that use ICIS anyway.
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karldotcom
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Because the Oat Mtn frequencies are the same as the Culver City frequencies...to reuse the frequencies they have to direct signals so they dont overlap.
Same as some of the Pomona and Burbank frequencies are the same, and the cell in Palmdale reuses frequencies (some verdugos)
For a trip, drive up the 14 fwy and see the Oat Mtn cell and Palmdale cell pop up on different parts of the road, depending on which hill is blocking what signal.
I have heard Glendale units in the SCV responding to a callout. I dont remember if it was a K9 or detective.
Also, Verdugo Fire and its members do have mutual aid agreements that might send them into Santa Clarita. I believe they are the third out Haz Mat responder, as I have heard Burbank HazMat 12 dispatched to I-5/Calgrove before (the FFs didnt think they heard that dispatch correctly!) when LA County's 2 units were busy. Also, during the Truck Tunnel Fire, Glendale's Air Utility was dispatched and beat LAFDs unit to the scene by an hour.
Plus the Verdugo Strike Teams in the future will have a greater ability to communicate back to headquarters (another example would be the strike teams that responded to that Beverly Hills Brush Fire earlier this year)
Same as some of the Pomona and Burbank frequencies are the same, and the cell in Palmdale reuses frequencies (some verdugos)
For a trip, drive up the 14 fwy and see the Oat Mtn cell and Palmdale cell pop up on different parts of the road, depending on which hill is blocking what signal.
I have heard Glendale units in the SCV responding to a callout. I dont remember if it was a K9 or detective.
Also, Verdugo Fire and its members do have mutual aid agreements that might send them into Santa Clarita. I believe they are the third out Haz Mat responder, as I have heard Burbank HazMat 12 dispatched to I-5/Calgrove before (the FFs didnt think they heard that dispatch correctly!) when LA County's 2 units were busy. Also, during the Truck Tunnel Fire, Glendale's Air Utility was dispatched and beat LAFDs unit to the scene by an hour.
Plus the Verdugo Strike Teams in the future will have a greater ability to communicate back to headquarters (another example would be the strike teams that responded to that Beverly Hills Brush Fire earlier this year)
spock00
Member
Ok makes sense given the circumstances.
A few more questions...
After the 11/5 switchover is Verdugo Fire to be simulcast on their old UHF freqs aka Red Channels?
Why not change the Oat cells freqs? Use Verdugos old freqs or something. There is probably some freqs they can pool from.
Any news on new user cities to join ICIS? Long Beach etc?
Why is San Fernando using ICIS for one TG Detectives? Do they plan on a future switch?
A few more questions...
After the 11/5 switchover is Verdugo Fire to be simulcast on their old UHF freqs aka Red Channels?
Why not change the Oat cells freqs? Use Verdugos old freqs or something. There is probably some freqs they can pool from.
Any news on new user cities to join ICIS? Long Beach etc?
Why is San Fernando using ICIS for one TG Detectives? Do they plan on a future switch?
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