hotdjdave said:
Ah yes, good point.
ICI Trunked System - Posts your new findings here!
Ah yes, good point.
RobertW1
Member
hotdjdave said:
What? No Burbank Cell Coverage Map?
Also, somebody, somewhere on the forum said something about Burbank "standing down" or something like that as to the new frequencies they had applied for to add to the ICIS system. Are they no longer planning on adding frequencies to their Burbank Cell?
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RobertW1
Member
karldotcom said:
Do you have all the control channels and freqs for the different cells programmed into the same bank?
I do, but this is probably not the norm.RobertW1 said:
RobertW1 said:
The coverage maps were taken from one of my early presentations (probably from the OES/SIEC website), and I didn't have a map for Burbank at that time.
Check the FCC database, you'll find Burbank is licensed on more channels than they're currently using. I'll leave it to you to figure out what that means.
karldotcom
Member
Some new TG activity in Burbank
Just heard 35814 on the Burbank Cell talking with a "Control 8" I believe that is the Burbank Public Works dispatcher, but will keep monitoring...
35264 talking about a "severe leak" Could be BWP
65456 is doing ten counts
Just heard 35814 on the Burbank Cell talking with a "Control 8" I believe that is the Burbank Public Works dispatcher, but will keep monitoring...
35264 talking about a "severe leak" Could be BWP
65456 is doing ten counts
RobertW1
Member
Over the past couple of days I've been hearing "Trunking traffic" on the old Burbank PSD "power department" Frequency: 470.3250, including normal Burbank Police (including encrypted and digital transmissions) and Bob Hope Airport talk groups. The signal is not as strong as it appears on the normal ICIS frequencies. This frequency appears to be simulcasting other trunking freqs as the conversation is also heard on a normal Burbank Cell ICIS frequencies.
What does this mean? Is 470.3250 going to become part of the Burbank ICIS Cell trunking frequencies?
What does this mean? Is 470.3250 going to become part of the Burbank ICIS Cell trunking frequencies?
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karldotcom
Member
I noticed that frequency trunking sometime this week....when I noticed the new TGs.
There is at least one BWP group, and a Animal Control Tac channel...not sure what descriptions they have given them, but the Animal Control channel deals with a lot of road kills. I am resisting entering BPD Road Kill as my channel description.
I will do some ID Tracker and recording this week to try to figure them all out.
also, 155.655 the old Bob Hope PD dispatch channel is used by the crews fixing the runways, who work at night.
There is at least one BWP group, and a Animal Control Tac channel...not sure what descriptions they have given them, but the Animal Control channel deals with a lot of road kills. I am resisting entering BPD Road Kill as my channel description.
I will do some ID Tracker and recording this week to try to figure them all out.
also, 155.655 the old Bob Hope PD dispatch channel is used by the crews fixing the runways, who work at night.
RobertW1
Member
karldotcom said:
I believe it was a typo, but 35184 is "Control 8"
35280 is Burbank PSD Power department. This talkgroup is digital. And as mentioned above, 470.3250 is definately part of the Burbank trunking frequencies and needs to be added to the database.
RobertW1
Member
I'm curious as to if anybody knows why a city would use "digital" for some talkgroups but "Analog" for others and "encryption" for some and not for others. Why not just use digital, or encrypted digital across the board.
i.e., Burbank is going to digital for many of the newer talkgroups being added such as BWP and the Magnolia Plant. The police radios are obviously capable of digital encryption as they use this when going to the encrypted "Records" channel.
Glendale's Police Tac channels are all digital, but their Dispatch channel is Analog.
While I'm glad they haven't gone encryption, why not just use it across the board, as the ICIS radio system is obviously capable of it.
Does it have something to do with cost? Again, the radios seem to be already equiped to handle it. Why the lack of standardization within an agency or city?
i.e., Burbank is going to digital for many of the newer talkgroups being added such as BWP and the Magnolia Plant. The police radios are obviously capable of digital encryption as they use this when going to the encrypted "Records" channel.
Glendale's Police Tac channels are all digital, but their Dispatch channel is Analog.
While I'm glad they haven't gone encryption, why not just use it across the board, as the ICIS radio system is obviously capable of it.
Does it have something to do with cost? Again, the radios seem to be already equiped to handle it. Why the lack of standardization within an agency or city?
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RobertW1 said:
Digital capable radios cost more than analog only radios.
An agency may have legacy analog radio equipment that is perfectly good, and don't want to replace at this time.
An agency might have all new, all digital radio equipment, but might want to allow a neighboring agency with analog-only radios access to their talkgroups.
...and there's probably several other perfectly reasonable explanations.
We kept dispatch analog to give our users time to get used to the very different operating characteristics of digital signals and the sound of digital audio.
karldotcom
Member
some Burbank adds:
Interagency Communications Interoperability (ICIS) -- Los Angeles County, California
add 471.0500 to Burbank ICIS system...
(formerly used as transit channel....now those users are on ICIS)
add 35136 D Burbank Bus
add 35056 D BWP Power
Interagency Communications Interoperability (ICIS) -- Los Angeles County, California
add 471.0500 to Burbank ICIS system...
(formerly used as transit channel....now those users are on ICIS)
add 35136 D Burbank Bus
add 35056 D BWP Power
Database Updated; Comments/Confirmation?
Database updated. Comments or confirmations, anyone?
Database updated. Comments or confirmations, anyone?
karldotcom said:
Looks like Montebello is now on the ICIS. Here is a c/p message posted to SoCalScan by Robert Patin
--- Original Message ---
im hearing montebelo pd on their icis freq tg 5712,,,,,confirmed im hearing
them still on both icis and their reg freq 482.2125
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Unknown if it is digital or analog I cannot pick that up from here.
--- Original Message ---
im hearing montebelo pd on their icis freq tg 5712,,,,,confirmed im hearing
them still on both icis and their reg freq 482.2125
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Unknown if it is digital or analog I cannot pick that up from here.
karldotcom
Member
Bob Hope Airport Fire heading to ICIS
11/6/06
Award of Purchase Order for
Airport Fire Department Radio Upgrade/Equipment Acquisition
Staff Report Attached [See Page 6]
The Airport Authority's Public Safety Department is currently
transitioning to ICIS ("Interagency Communications Interoperability
System") for public safety communications. To meet the interoperability
requirements it will be necessary to purchase new Motorola radios that
operate on the narrowband, ultra high frequency ("UHF") ICIS. The
proposed new radios will replace existing Fire Department VHF radios
and will meet the mutual aid and interoperability requirements for the
Airport Fire Department. The Authority's purchasing policies permit
the acquisition of equipment using existing competitively bid contracts
by other public agencies, and Staff has received a proposal that is part of
the Los Angeles County Contract #40856 which satisfies this competitive
bid requirement. A total of 12 portable radios at a cost of $4,314.25
each are necessary for firefighter use and to permit a sufficient number
of spare radios for repairs and special fire protection details. It will also
be necessary to replace the mobile radios that are installed in the Airport
Fire Department apparatus with 10 new UHF mobile Motorola radios at
a price of $3,751.01 per radio, including accessories. This project is
included in the FY 2006–2007 budget.
It is Staff's recommendation that the Committee recommend to the full
Authority approval of the purchase of 12 Motorola XTS5000 UHF
portable radios and 10 Motorola STL5000 UHF mobile radios to meet
the mutual aid communications interoperability requirement for public
safety in the total amount of $89,281.10 through the County of
Los Angeles Contract #40856.
11/6/06
Award of Purchase Order for
Airport Fire Department Radio Upgrade/Equipment Acquisition
Staff Report Attached [See Page 6]
The Airport Authority's Public Safety Department is currently
transitioning to ICIS ("Interagency Communications Interoperability
System") for public safety communications. To meet the interoperability
requirements it will be necessary to purchase new Motorola radios that
operate on the narrowband, ultra high frequency ("UHF") ICIS. The
proposed new radios will replace existing Fire Department VHF radios
and will meet the mutual aid and interoperability requirements for the
Airport Fire Department. The Authority's purchasing policies permit
the acquisition of equipment using existing competitively bid contracts
by other public agencies, and Staff has received a proposal that is part of
the Los Angeles County Contract #40856 which satisfies this competitive
bid requirement. A total of 12 portable radios at a cost of $4,314.25
each are necessary for firefighter use and to permit a sufficient number
of spare radios for repairs and special fire protection details. It will also
be necessary to replace the mobile radios that are installed in the Airport
Fire Department apparatus with 10 new UHF mobile Motorola radios at
a price of $3,751.01 per radio, including accessories. This project is
included in the FY 2006–2007 budget.
It is Staff's recommendation that the Committee recommend to the full
Authority approval of the purchase of 12 Motorola XTS5000 UHF
portable radios and 10 Motorola STL5000 UHF mobile radios to meet
the mutual aid communications interoperability requirement for public
safety in the total amount of $89,281.10 through the County of
Los Angeles Contract #40856.
chet- said:
RobertW1
Member
karldotcom said:
How are those radios going to work with Verdugo Fire? Verdugo is not utilizing ICIS and Airport Fire is typically dispatched by Verdugo along with Burbank Fire.
karldotcom
Member
http://www.icisradio.org/ some new coverage maps and other stuff.
http://www.unified-response.org/ Area C website
I think Verdugo is going to be utilizing ICIS more in the future. For now, I would think that Airport Fire will have the Verdugo frequencies to use on their radios. I thought they were dispatched by Airport PD...but I dont listen to that VHF channel that often.
http://www.unified-response.org/ Area C website
I think Verdugo is going to be utilizing ICIS more in the future. For now, I would think that Airport Fire will have the Verdugo frequencies to use on their radios. I thought they were dispatched by Airport PD...but I dont listen to that VHF channel that often.
Bob Hope Airport Police is no longer on VHF.
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